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1st Test: India v Australia at Pune on Feb 23-27, 2017 - AUST WIN BY 333 RUNS

Fufu Andronez

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63 no, keep bagging him.

Oh guess what Wade has failed what a suprise.

Renshaw's fault as well I presume??? Bagging the only bloke who had put some value on his wicket.


As clueless as Wade up to the stumps.

To be fair though, Smith did try to put a price on his wicket. Lasted 90 odd balls for just 20 odd. He just couldn't maintain it
 

Iafeta

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I like that ABs comments regarding Renshaw are being fairly roundly savaged in the media. He's a very good commentator and hugely respectable but his comments basically showed that in many ways he's stuck in the 80s, where he was at times a disgusting prick of a captain who cared more about winning than his players.

Fair play, the bloke is in my very limited experience a lovely guy who did wonders for Australian cricket, but at the same time if he did what he did to Dean Jones these days he'd likely be sacked and potentially sitting in a court room and rightly so....Jones quite literally came close to death and permanently damaged his health just because his skipper wanted him to "harden up"....

You're supposed to get in the trenches. This is warfare. There will be casualties.

Old mate should have dropped his guts from the crease onto the crease. It would have been a solid, if not sloppy, statement of intent. You make take our bowels but you will never taken our freedom.
 

Fufu Andronez

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I know Starc is getting alot of praise, but Hazelwood has done damn well to hang around there for Starc and not throw his wicket away
 

JJ

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Mitch Marsh has been garbage, but you can understand to some level why the selectors would try and persist with him. His bowling is pretty decent, and his batting has potential, and he's young. Having said that, he's been given more than a fair crack and someone else should be given a go.

Wade on the other hand. None of it makes sense. And in addition to that, he's a keeper. If you can't keep, you can't be carried. The awfulness of his selection is in a class of its own.

Suggestions of Starc at 6 are pretty silly. Having him come in at 8 or 9 and tonk a few sixes without any pressure is one thing. Expecting him to come in at 6 and play the role of a specialist batsman and bat for long periods is totally a different thing. Not the position you want to be putting your main strike bowler in.

He'd probably go better than MMarsh at 6 but still doesn't make it right.
Nobody is seriously suggesting it, just to highlight how bad Marsh is - Starc's test record is better...

Add to that Marsh's horrific 1st class record, I just don't understand why anyone argues he should be in the test team, or even considered
 

Meapro Ham

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Nobody is seriously suggesting it, just to highlight how bad Marsh is - Starc's test record is better...

Add to that Marsh's horrific 1st class record, I just don't understand why anyone argues he should be in the test team, or even considered

A couple of of people have listed him at 6 in their preferred line up champ. Without adding any kind of disclaimer that they weren't serious.
 

8Ball

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Nobody is seriously suggesting it, just to highlight how bad Marsh is - Starc's test record is better...

Add to that Marsh's horrific 1st class record, I just don't understand why anyone argues he should be in the test team, or even considered


Like I said, if you select someone based on pure potential, you can kind of understand it. With that line of thinking there is some sort of justification. It's simply just a shit selection.

Wade, on the other hand..it makes no sense. It's made even worse by the fact that keepers need to you know..keep. It's different to selecting a guy at 6 who can bowl and hope he comes good with the bat eventually.

Choosing a keeper for your side is just different. You simply have to keep to a reasonable standard in international cricket. There is no "picking on potential" if your keeping isn't up to scratch. You can't be carried. There's no one to shoulder your load. You affect bowling/fielding morale. A couple of shit matches immediately calls into question your place in the side as keeper, regardless of batting form, as it should.

Wade was selected when our primary spinner needed all the help he could get, just before an Indian tour. He's since averaged 10 in mostly dream conditions to bat and looks no better a keeper than he was when he was dropped following the previous Indian tour for his "keeping." Not just cause he's missed chances, but because he's constantly making regulation takes look like they exploded off the pitch. You don't get the sense that he's going through a bad patch with his glovework. He just looks like he's keeping as well as he can.

That's what makes Wade's selection a class of its own.
 
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Red Bear

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The pure potential line runs out at some point. Probably around the point he gets dropped, as he did in November. Since then he's done nothing to warrent a return to the side. Absolutely nothing.

Our tail starts at six against a lineup that bats deep in a tough country to tour at the best of times. Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot
 

JJ

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A couple of of people have listed him at 6 in their preferred line up champ. Without adding any kind of disclaimer that they weren't serious.
I've mentioned it too - I think most of us were saying that in the context of your selectors being likely to pick Marsh at 6, and certain to pick Wade at 7...
 

JJ

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Just seems to be copying the Indians and playing into their hands. They are not worried about O'Keefe or Lyon IMO

Yadav got 3...

Wadey on fire already
 

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