2005 Tri Nations: Game 2 - New Zealand v Australia *spoilers/match thread*

[mickdo]

Bennett won't change a winning side.

If that's his attitude then he doesn't deserve to be national coach.

 

[mcbulldog]

anyone know the score of the curtain raiser?

 

[gaterooze]

i know everyone loves him...but that vatuvei isnt as good as alot say.

Mate, he's only 19! Give him a chance.

 

[Parrasque]

anyone know the score of the curtain raiser?

was their a curtain raiser?

 

[mcbulldog]

yeah it was New Zealand Residents vs Jim Bean Cup Selection

 

[harmichael_punt_]

australia needs to sort its defense out...we've scored enough points in both games to win. Bringing Hindmarsh back into the team will help steady that part of the game but tate on the wing is a big weakness in defense as is lockyer. Maybe in defense lockyer to fullback, mini to wing, tate defend at centre and cooper defend 3 in as he does for the dragons when hornby defends at centre.

 

[harmichael_punt_]

double post

 

[lockyno1]

If that's his attitude then he doesn't deserve to be national coach.

It's the reality. If a side is winning you are less likely to change a lineup. It is no just bennett but ALL coaches do it!

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Nothing wrong with the Webb re-start call, he was letting the ball go dead and only touched it because he was shoved by an Aussie player, hence he never played at the football = 20m re-start to the kiwis.

 

[mcbulldog]

Curtain Rasier:
NZ Residents 28-8 Jim Bean Cup Selection

 

[douglasallen91]

Come on he helped the Kiwis in the first game!

haha are u been serious?

 

[douglasallen91]

Either Vagana or whoever the other bloke was in that ridiculous spear tackle should have been marched!

and webster should have scored on his debut and waterhouse marched

 

[Timmah]

If that's his attitude then he doesn't deserve to be national coach.

Awww, widdle Hindmarsh won't get a run. Tough titties. Go with what works - last nights team worked.

Deal with it.

 

[douglasallen91]

i read somewhere that if a trainer had did what he did to one of andrew johns kicks at goal in a nrl game that theri points would have been stripped off them

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Does ANYONE know the crowd yet?

 

[Azkatro]

I know, that's what I'm just trying to look up now. It's not reported on NRL.com, wasn't in the Daily Tele's match report and it wasn't shown in the broadcast. I've also looked on nzrl.co.nz, ericssonstadium.co.nz, australianrugbyleague.com.au, bbc.co.uk, skysports.com, nzherald.co.nz and nothing.

 

[Azkatro]

The madness of this crowd figure may well never be resolved. I know of the following numbers and sources:

- Official NRL 2005 Annual - published late 2005 - 16,258 (also reflected on rleague.com and Wikipedia)
- League Express Magazine - published three days after the game - 15,400
- The ABC of Rugby League - published September 2006 - 15,400
- 100 Years of Rugby League - published 2007 - 18,000

Given that two reputable sources (League Express, ABC of RL) give a crowd estimate of 15,400, and that an "official" volume in 100 Years of Rugby League gives a different figure than the "official" 2005 Annual (and also given the horrendous track record with regards to accuracy the NRL Annuals suffer), I am inclined to think that all three figures are estimates - with the 16,258 figure a sad attempt to come across as an exact, official count.

I can only guess that something went wrong with the counting on the day and no official number was available, hence estimates were relied upon. And it's for that reason it seems sensible to go with the most conservative estimate (and also the estimate provided by League Express, which would have almost certainly been given by a reporter at the venue at the time).

 

[roughyedspud]

cheers...that been killing me for 3 and a half years...........

 

[Azkatro]

It's just another example of the horrendous state of archiving in rugby league. It's fine if there was a problem determining the exact crowd number, but don't go off and make up some arbitrary figure and put it in the OFFICIAL annual of the game!

 

[The Tank]

cheers...that been killing me for 3 and a half years...........

:lol: