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2009 Champions

PARRA_FAN

Coach
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Because a few Eels supporters are delusional and say that we are the premiers does not mean a majority feel this way!!!!

I am a massive Eels supporter and live and breathe them, i DO NOT want the premiership, i think you will find this quite a common theme!

I wish people would not throw all the Eels supporters in the same boat as the very small percent who think we should be the 2009 premiers!!!

Mate I feel disgusted that we were beaten by a team that cheated the system.

However being tagged "premiers" wont be the same was Parramatta players celebrating on the field after the full time siren. Thats the best feeling.

It just wont happen being rewarded 2009 premiers.
 

dclayw

Juniors
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There will be no premiers for 2007 and 2009 and no minor premiers for 2006, 2007 and 2008. However, whichever way you look at it history will show this:

Year Premiers Minor Premiers

2005 Wests Tigers Parramatta
2006 Broncos *
2007 * *
2008 Manly *
2009 * Dragons

I would make the argument that the runners up for the minor premierships in 2006-8 should be awarded the minor premiership, that would seem fair and reasonable.
 
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So the most succesful team of the last five years is:

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Dutchy

Immortal
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There will be no premiers for 2007 and 2009 and no minor premiers for 2006, 2007 and 2008. However, whichever way you look at it history will show this:

Year Premiers Minor Premiers

2005 Wests Tigers Parramatta
2006 Broncos *
2007 * *
2008 Manly *
2009 * Dragons

I would make the argument that the runners up for the minor premierships in 2006-8 should be awarded the minor premiership, that would seem fair and reasonable.

That would be Bulldogs, Manly, Manly.
 

madunit

Super Moderator
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There will be no premiers for 2007 and 2009 and no minor premiers for 2006, 2007 and 2008. However, whichever way you look at it history will show this:

Year Premiers Minor Premiers

2005 Wests Tigers Parramatta
2006 Broncos *
2007 * *
2008 Manly *
2009 * Dragons

I would make the argument that the runners up for the minor premierships in 2006-8 should be awarded the minor premiership, that would seem fair and reasonable.
We have a finals series for a reason: to determine the Premier.

First past the post ended around 70 years ago.

How many times has the Minor Premier also been the Premiers in the last 15 years?

Not enough to decalre that a Minor Premiership=Premiership.

If Melbourne hadn't competed in the finals, or placed in a different position, then the matches would have all been very different, and the runners up may not have qualified at all.

Parramatta and Manly should not be awarded Premierships.

That dopey argument of "If a sprinter cheats they lose their medal and it goes to the next person" does not apply.

First of all, each competitior in the race is in their own lane and do not have to employ different tactics and gameplans for each other person in the race.

Also, it's man vs man, not team vs team.

It's a f**king moronic comparison.

I can't believe Manly and Parra fans are even thinking they deserve to be declared premiers for losing when it mattered most, especially when it could have actually been different teams they faced, or not even played in the GF at all.
 

mickdo

Coach
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That dopey argument of "If a sprinter cheats they lose their medal and it goes to the next person" does not apply.

First of all, each competitior in the race is in their own lane and do not have to employ different tactics and gameplans for each other person in the race.

Also, it's man vs man, not team vs team.

At the Olympics the same stripping rules apply to 'sprints' as they do to sports with semi finals and finals between two competitors or teams, such as Boxing etc
 

madunit

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Staff member
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well when the NRL is run according to Olympic rules, it can be a possibility.

But the concept of handing a premiership to a team beaten not through performance enhancing cheating, but by salary cheating, then no, they runner-up should not be awarded the title.
 

nehalem

Juniors
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But the concept of handing a premiership to a team beaten not through performance enhancing cheating, but by salary cheating, then no, they runner-up should not be awarded the title.

Cheating is cheating you idiot, no matter how you do it :roll:
 

bender

Juniors
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well when the NRL is run according to Olympic rules, it can be a possibility.

But the concept of handing a premiership to a team beaten not through performance enhancing cheating, but by salary cheating, then no, they runner-up should not be awarded the title.


Well in Rugby League, the rule (in the past 15 years) is that the side with possession of the title keeps the title. as Seen with the drawn state of origin series, so i suppose that technically you could argue that the Broncos and Manly both held the title and technically, Manly are currently the reigning premiers due to them winning the last title ever handed out.

I agree with the sensible parra fans taht any win is hollow and not the same, and it is not really anything great. But, in the long term, it will be important for the history books, and i think that Saints are the most deserving (and no i dont support the minor premiership over the Grand final) it is just that they are the side with the best claim to a premiership in the circumstances. There is probably nothing wrong with a blank premiership, either, but without a winner declared it will (even in 100 years) be remembered as the year Melbourne were stripped, i would prefer to give the years best performed team some credit.

It was huge news at the time, but nowadays no one remembers taht Peter Brocks last Bathurst win came after he was beaten past the post, and declared a winner days after the fight. Same goes with any other sport. Time moves so quick, that some sides (even though it means little now) deserve to be honoured in the future and they will receive that honour some time in the future. If anyone gets it, St George definitely have the best case, imo.
 
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