2015 FFBRL Challenge Thread

[soc123_au]

If SST only gets a 7, averaging 20m more a game, no way am I giving Cartwright an 8.

It's not all about meters.

 

[soc123_au]

My concern is not that Fensom is a 10, my concern is that I have asked for a re-rate and have provided statistics to reinforce my case.

The response provided no insights on the decision other than it was an opinion.

There are large inconsistencies with how ratings are defined, and this is part of the reason why we have too many 8's and 9's.

I'll take the defense 8, however; why defines a players static is still obscure.

You used your boys 2015 season tackles as a stat in comparison to Elijah Taylor's season tackles. Problem is your boy has played 3 more games to hit the same number. Your stats proved that he isn't a 9.

 

[Dutchy]

It's not all about meters.

You're right, SST also breaks more tackles, offloads more, bends the line more and is only just behind in TA.

 

[Drew-Sta]

My concern is not that Fensom is a 10, my concern is that I have asked for a re-rate and have provided statistics to reinforce my case.

The response provided no insights on the decision other than it was an opinion.

There are large inconsistencies with how ratings are defined, and this is part of the reason why we have too many 8's and 9's.

I'll take the defense 8, however; why defines a players static is still obscure.

I actually don't believe his stats rank him as a 9. I think for an 80 minute player, to only clock high 30's, or low 40's each game is 8 defense. (His average is 40 only because he played really well in Rd4 and got 58 tackles). Compare that to McCullough, who averages 49 each game and has consistently topped 50 in half his matches, and to rate him as a 10 is wrong.

You compared him to Fensom, which is why I drew the above comment; the comparison isn't right because Fensom isn't a 10 either.

The inconsistencies exist as we haven't had a DB rereate in over a year.

I see your point, and I have sympathy for your argument though.

 

[Drew-Sta]

You're right, SST also breaks more tackles, offloads more, bends the line more and is only just behind in TA.

SST? (sorry, a bit dense today)

 

[Dutchy]

Taukaieho

 

[afinalsin666]

Mr C, you need an air tight argument. You can't just point at total tackles, you usually need to break it down to a per game, or per minute basis. Then you take a few other blokes and break down their tackles.

If you wanted to challenge and use Fensom as a measuring stick, you'll have to go back to his 2013 season and compare your boy to his stats, like i did with Smith.

That and 30~ tackles in a full 80 isn't great. 40+ av seems to be the running average for a 9 defence.

 

[Bazal]

My concern is not that Fensom is a 10, my concern is that I have asked for a re-rate and have provided statistics to reinforce my case.

The response provided no insights on the decision other than it was an opinion.

There are large inconsistencies with how ratings are defined, and this is part of the reason why we have too many 8's and 9's.

I'll take the defense 8, however; why defines a players static is still obscure.

Wat? I told you exactly why?

Seeing as you clearly missed it...His statistics are inflated by two severe outliers where he doubled his average output. This is not a case of a guy hitting 40 tackles every week, it's a case of a guy hitting high twenties to low/mid thirties and boosting that with two beast mode games of over 50. His mean tackle count may be in the forties but his actual average count isn't

 

[Drew-Sta]

Sorry to be a stickler but hos average would be in the 40's, its his mean that would be accurate :sarcasm:

Same point though.

 

[Bazal]

If you're going to be a stickler you should know that there are like four kinds of average and that outliers are generally discounted when examining statistics yes, his mean tackle count is in the forties (sum/games) but his median output or his actual statistical average are not ;-)

Anyway the point is he's not consistent enough

 

[Dutchy]

Simple terms, he's a worker, rarely dominates a tackle, not scary.

Averages 38 - misses 3.

8.

 

[dragon4]

Rerate requested for Simon Mannering.......currently rated 7/8

Is second highest defender in the NRL with 627 tackles from 13 games at average of 48.23.

Requesting rating of 7/9

 

[dragon4]

Rerate request for Tyson Frizzel.

Gurrently rated a 6/6

On verge of SOS selection.

Averages 26.7 metres per run and averages 37.7 tackles per match.

Requesting rerate to 7/8

 

[Drew-Sta]

If you're going to be a stickler you should know that there are like four kinds of average and that outliers are generally discounted when examining statistics yes, his mean tackle count is in the forties (sum/games) but his median output or his actual statistical average are not ;-)

Anyway the point is he's not consistent enough

What you described (sum/games) is average. Mean is:

The mean is the average of the numbers: a calculated "central" value of a set of numbers.

To calculate: Just add up all the numbers, then divide by how many numbers there are.

;-)

 

[Bazal]

What you described (sum/games) is average. Mean is:



;-)

Oh Derpsta....never change.

7/9 for Mannering and 8/8 for Frizzell anyhow

 

[Misanthrope]

7/9 and 8/7

 

[soc123_au]

Oh Derpsta....never change.

7/9 for Mannering and 8/8 for Frizzell anyhow

Agreed

 

[Drew-Sta]

Oh Derpsta....never change.

7/9 for Mannering and 8/8 for Frizzell anyhow

Sorry, highlighted the wrong bit.

1, 10, 10, 10, 100.

Average = sum / number of variants = 26.2

Mean = order all numbers from highest to lowest then find middle instance = 10.

Happy with your ratings. I think Frizzell has more impact in his hits and is often taking 1st or 2nd hit up.

 

[Bazal]

Sorry, highlighted the wrong bit.

1, 10, 10, 10, 100.

Average = sum / number of variants = 26.2

Mean = order all numbers from highest to lowest then find middle instance = 10.

Happy with your ratings. I think Frizzell has more impact in his hits and is often taking 1st or 2nd hit up.

Mean = sum all of all variants/number (generally what people mean by "average")

Median=Middle value by order or the mean of the two middle values if the data set is even

Mode=Most common value

People probably want to kill us both btw, this is like being in years 6 again :lol:

 

[Drew-Sta]

Mean = sum all of all variants/number (generally what people mean by "average")

Median=Middle value by order or the mean of the two middle values if the data set is even

Mode=Most common value

People probably want to kill us both btw, this is like being in years 6 again :lol:

:lol: You're right, I kept thinking mean when I meant to say median. I'll kick myself out now - sorry for derping it up Baz! :lol: