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2017

FootynRacing

Juniors
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389
I was just reading that Zac Hardaker doesn't have an nrl contract for next year and looks like heading back to England.
I haven't really seen him play much this year but thought he looked alright against Manly last weekend. Would he be worth offering a contract for next year ?
 

BrotherJim05

Bench
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I was just reading that Zac Hardaker doesn't have an nrl contract for next year and looks like heading back to England.
I haven't really seen him play much this year but thought he looked alright against Manly last weekend. Would he be worth offering a contract for next year ?

If he doesn't mind playing right centre (and backup fullback to Teddy) then yeah definitely
 

madunit

Super Moderator
Staff member
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Doubt we could afford him. Or anyone.

Farah's departure has only freed up 200k

ET will take that.
 

macnaz

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Word is our new defence coach will be Andrew Webster , he has been with the Warriors the last 2 seasons and they have leaked more points then us .:eek:
 

magpie4ever

First Grade
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Word is our new defence coach will be Andrew Webster , he has been with the Warriors the last 2 seasons and they have leaked more points then us .:eek:

That is what happens when you hire an openly gay journalist who by his own admission couldn't play footy for shite as your defensive coach.

Only joking.
 

Tiger05

First Grade
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What about people's teams for next year.

I think our backline is basically fine but Simona needs a kick up the backside. He has started putting crud plays into his game.

The outside backs are good but we need a winger.

1. Tedesco
2. Nofo
3. Naiqama
4. Simona
5.

The halves are decent. I think Moses has proven that he is someone who we can build around. Brooks is a funny one. He has lots of good attributes but he goes missing too many times.

6. Moses
7. Brooks

Our forwards are pretty good but we really need a dynamic backrower. Liddle gets good reviews but I'm really worried about the hooker role. I also think ET needs to be interchanged more. He loses his effectiveness if he is on for too long and he also isn't a forward who is going to make a bust or pull off a big hit.

8. Woods
9. Liddle
10. Grant
11. Lawrence
12.
13. ET

14. Felise
15. Ava
16. Sue
17. Aloiai/Ballin/Rankin

I think we have 2 spots to definitely fill in a winger and a backrower but the hooking spot is a concern. I'd love to play the 4 forwards listed there off the bench but I think we are going to need to carry a hooker on the bench. Robbie leaving is a big loss although I think he has lost a yard or two of pace and we really need a hooker who can make a break or a half break more consistently than Robbie can.

If anything I think we look a little worse next year than what we looked this year. If we fill those spots well though, get a good run with injuries and sort out the hooking role we should really make the 8 and do it fairly easily.
 
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Big defence wins big games, it's as simple as that. Kidwell is responsible for coaching that defence and he has been a massive failure. He must go.

Looking at 2016 from a benchmarking perspective the Cowboys game was our best by far. The reason for that was when we did rush up we did it as a team. They tried to get around us but couldn't. I don't expect this quality of defence every weekend but something resembling it would be nice. The main offenders in rushing up and taking thin air are Kev, Moses, and Brooks. I think we'd be best off in shopping Kev to other clubs. I'm pretty sure we'd get some takers. I just can't see him making any improvement and his defensive weaknesses far outweigh what he offers in attack. Don't know who is available but anyone would be an improvement.

Likewise Brooks. We just can't afford to carry 2 halves with defensive weaknesses. It's a pity because I remember watching his debut at the SCG and walking away thinking how good the next 10 years were going to be, but he's only played a handful of games even close to that quality. Moses is a bit of a speed bump but at least he has a go and puts his body on the line. Brooks, much like Kev is a traffic cone. Just creates yawning gaps that aren't all that hard to get around. I thought Drinkwater was enormous in that Cowboys game considering they ran at him plenty.

We'd be better off using Rankin's salary on a trip to Fiji or Tonga and coming back with a massive unit who could be another potential Semi.

The forward pack looks pretty good except we need a specialist hooker next year. Whether Taylor has an aversion to the position, doesn't think it's as important as it used to be, or plans on using a specialist hooker next year but didn't want to this year because of Farah......your guess is as good as mine. We need a hooker though.

Looking at recent history we were last a good defensive team when Folkes was coach. Look what happened then.....we were a top 4 team 2 years in a row. He needs to be enticed away from his Jillaroo job as a major priority. He's got a proven track record at the club.

If we persist with what we've got I reckon next year will be similar to this one. Making the semi's would be nice but realistically, if you're not in the top 4 you're just making up the numbers. I want us to be challenging and that begins and ends with defence.
 

magpie guy

Juniors
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358
Big defence wins big games, it's as simple as that. Kidwell is responsible for coaching that defence and he has been a massive failure. He must go.

Looking at recent history we were last a good defensive team when Folkes was coach. Look what happened then.....we were a top 4 team 2 years in a row. He needs to be enticed away from his Jillaroo job as a major priority. He's got a proven track record at the club.

If we persist with what we've got I reckon next year will be similar to this one. Making the semi's would be nice but realistically, if you're not in the top 4 you're just making up the numbers. I want us to be challenging and that begins and ends with defence.

I have been pretty much screaming for us to get Folkes back in some kind of coaching role since he left. Either as defensive coach or preferably as head coach. I just think that he has a no nonsense attitude and commands respect from his players in a way that Bennet or Belamy does and that JT can't.
 

madunit

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I'd rather Kev over Wes.

I'd rather neither though in an ideal world.
 

Tiger05

First Grade
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9,814
I'll update my team based on signing Idris.

The outside backs look really good to me. The risk is that Idris gets burned through a lack of pace. I'd prefer to sign a gun winger and play Idris in the backrow but at this point I think we go with this.

1. Tedesco
2. Nofo
3. Naiqama
4. Idris
5. Simona

The halves look like potential superstars. Who knows how they go.

6. Moses
7. Brooks

Our pack is good but it's missing a dynamic player. I don't think that Liddle can play 80 minutes so we have to have an interchange dummy-half. I don't think its ideal but we don't have an option. The edge second rowers have to play the full 80. I'd prefer to play Aloiai off the bench and let Siro have a spell but not at the expense of playing ET at hooker.

8. Woods
9. Liddle
10. Grant
11. Lawrence
12. Siro
13. ET

14. Felise
15. Ava
16. Sue
17. Marshall-King/Ballin/Rankin
 

TKO

Juniors
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16
I'll update my team based on signing Idris.

The outside backs look really good to me. The risk is that Idris gets burned through a lack of pace. I'd prefer to sign a gun winger and play Idris in the backrow but at this point I think we go with this.

1. Tedesco
2. Nofo
3. Naiqama
4. Idris
5. Simona

The halves look like potential superstars. Who knows how they go.

6. Moses
7. Brooks

Our pack is good but it's missing a dynamic player. I don't think that Liddle can play 80 minutes so we have to have an interchange dummy-half. I don't think its ideal but we don't have an option. The edge second rowers have to play the full 80. I'd prefer to play Aloiai off the bench and let Siro have a spell but not at the expense of playing ET at hooker.

8. Woods
9. Liddle
10. Grant
11. Lawrence
12. Siro
13. ET

14. Felise
15. Ava
16. Sue
17. Marshall-King/Ballin/Rankin

I would be playing youngster Charlie Taylor as 5. A late signing with us played cup. Very quick, strong has mongrel, talented and great in defense. Australian schoolboy winger and bring up Wesley Lolo as well big strong forward, breaks the line with plenty of grunt
 

Tiger05

First Grade
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9,814
I would be playing youngster Charlie Taylor as 5. A late signing with us played cup. Very quick, strong has mongrel, talented and great in defense. Australian schoolboy winger and bring up Wesley Lolo as well big strong forward, breaks the line with plenty of grunt

I like the idea of playing a winger on the wing. You could move Idris to the bench and play him as an impact backrower. The problem is that we will need two hookers. I think Felise has to come into the team so I'm not sure that Lolo gets a go.
 

TKO

Juniors
Messages
16
I like the idea of playing a winger on the wing. You could move Idris to the bench and play him as an impact backrower. The problem is that we will need two hookers. I think Felise has to come into the team so I'm not sure that Lolo gets a go.

I agree you want a specialised winger playing on the wing and Taylor can still cover other positions in the backline if needed which is great. I would have Liddle as my main hooker and I think the club would be silly to waste any more $$$ buying anyone else. He is a really good player and handled cup very well. Lolo is one of the best young props I have seen. If the club doesn't look after these youngsters we will lose them to other clubs plus It will save the club $$$$ bringing through some of their own
 

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