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[titoelcolombiano]

Believe me! I'm engaging in the debate ! Your logic is so scurilous that insults (accurate descriptions ) are appropriate. You fail to understand the massive market advantage of established and widely identified clubs that exist and have existed in the ARL/NRL. This is your biggest mistake. You fail to see that these clubs are renowned throughout the land . They are an important part of the sporting fabric of a nation. Some scurrilous disrespectful chatter to dismiss their proud existence into a 2nd rate status is rude and innapropriate.

How are you measuring this?

 

[Stallion]

How are you measuring this?

With common sense! What's your excuse!?

 

[Cumberland Throw]

I don't think we can go back to exclusive games on fta..

The loss of viewers isn't coming from people switching over to fox..

People just aren't watching

 

[Perth Red]

I don't think we can go back to exclusive games on fta..

The loss of viewers isn't coming from people switching over to fox..

People just aren't watching

Not sure it isnt partly, Fox got a good boost in audiences when they went to simulcast every gamelive , I reckon quite a few nrl fans would have switched over then, around 150-200k for Ch9 games are now watched on fox compared to Ch9.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

With common sense! What's your excuse!?

No seriously, what metrics do you use to measure the widespread support throughout the nation? I'm not accepting or denying your claim at this stage, just more interested in how you actually guage this. What statistics or data indicators are you using?

 

[Perth Red]

No seriously, what metrics do you use to measure the widespread support throughout the nation? I'm not accepting or denying your claim at this stage, just more interested in how you actually guage this. What statistics or data indicators are you using?

Why are you bothering? Put him on ignore. He has no data or stats or evidence, just BS cliches he trots out time and again. Put him on ignore and he’ll eventually stop clogging up the expansion forum.

 

[Stallion]

No seriously, what metrics do you use to measure the widespread support throughout the nation? I'm not accepting or denying your claim at this stage, just more interested in how you actually guage this. What statistics or data indicators are you using?

It's not a claim. It's common sense! The Bears were part of the immense television growth of the competition during the 70s,80s & 90s. This is fact! This gave them and other such clubs widespread notoriety and support . That's how it works.

 

[nrlnrl]

He ( Weidler)cannot accept some points, such as the 9 coverage becoming stale and the continual negativity from Gould is a big turnoff.Yes refs decisions have an impact as does consistency.
He is trying to put down the Kayo impact, which must be impacting FTA .And of course he is conveniently ignoring a cashed up yet ratings chasing ch10 (backed by the CBS organisation).
And of course the chance of an expanded 18 team competition, encompassing Perth and another Brisbane 2.
The fact 9 and the Herald sleep in the same media bed, all Weidler is doing is getting in early pushing for a lower Tv deal, which benefits both those sharing the same bed.

That's what I'm hearing Danny, from the world of reality.

The Ch9 publicity spokesman has been in overdrive lately. His agenda is obviously to talk the ratings & product down to bring the price down. For a person who claims to have the interest of rugby league at heart, that only appears to be the case when it suits him & he needs content for his gossip column.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I don't think we can go back to exclusive games on fta..

The loss of viewers isn't coming from people switching over to fox..

People just aren't watching

We won’t be going back to exclusive fta. The exclusivity that nine would won’t is to be able to broadcast it on their streaming Stan channel.

 

[Perth Red]

We won’t be going back to exclusive fta. The exclusivity that nine would won’t is to be able to broadcast it on their streaming Stan channel.

Money talks. Highest offer wins the prize.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

It's not a claim. It's common sense! The Bears were part of the immense television growth of the competition during the 70s,80s & 90s. This is fact! This gave them and other such clubs widespread notoriety and support . That's how it works.

Newtown were part of that era and don't have widespread support so the argument of being part of the comp and on TV in the 70's, 80's and 90's doesn't stand alone as evidence that the Bears have widespread support. I've also got news for you, next year, the 1990 was 30 years ago.

 

[flippikat]

Money talks. Highest offer wins the prize.

Absolutely. I wouldn't totally discount Nine paying a premium for some exclusive weekly content, but we need to keep in mind that as a FTA broadcaster they don't have the subscription revenue stream that Fox does - unless they "rob Peter to pay Paul" and cross-subsidise it with money from Stan subscriptions or something...

 

[Stallion]

Newtown were part of that era and don't have widespread support so the argument of being part of the comp and on TV in the 70's, 80's and 90's doesn't stand alone as evidence that the Bears have widespread support. I've also got news for you, next year, the 1990 was 30 years ago.

Newtown were not about in most of the 80s & all of the 90s! FACT! Weaselling your poorly found ignorance with half truths. A consistent tact from you.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Newtown were not about in most of the 80s & all of the 90s! FACT! Weaselling your poorly found ignorance with half truths. A consistent tact from you.

The Jets played right throughout the 70's and then up until 1983 which is 'in that era'. They benefited from the TV era as you put it. So if existing in that era is ''evidence'' for widespread support, they why do you claim the Bears have it and not Newtown? What I'm asking is what are the determining factors to back your claim of this widespread support?

 

[Stallion]

The Jets played right througho
ut the 70's and then up until 1983 which is 'in that era'. They benefited from the TV era as you put it. So if existing in that era is ''evidence'' for widespread support, they why do you claim the Bears have it and not Newtown? What I'm asking is what are the determining factors to back your claim of this widespread support?

Lol. What part of the decade do you think the majority of the years were played in the top flight by the Newtown Jets in the 80s? My word you cannot even count! 4 years is not 5 : is not 6 nor 7! You are proving to be an idiot that cannot count OMG!

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Lol. What part of the decade do you think the majority of the years were played in the top flight by the Newtown Jets in the 80s? My word you cannot even count! 4 years is not 5 : is not 6 nor 7! You are proving to be an idiot that cannot count OMG!

Newtown's last season in the top flight was 1983 - what's your point?

 

[Stallion]

Newtown's last season in the top flight was 1983 - what's your point?

You still can't work it out. The era mentioned was 70's, 80s &90's. Newtown were not part of the massive tv growth that gained more momentum from 80s onwards. You have asserted they were? 1983 does not indicate a major share of that decade? Can you count? Or is that beyond you? You certainly are mathematically challenged as far as population numbers and density are concerned!

 

[titoelcolombiano]

You still can't work it out. The era mentioned was 70's, 80s &90's. Newtown were not part of the massive tv growth that gained more momentum from 80s onwards. You have asserted they were? 1983 does not indicate a major share of that decade? Can you count? Or is that beyond you? You certainly are mathematically challenged as far as population numbers and density are concerned!

So first your argument is that the boom TV era of the 70's, 80's and 90's was responsible for the so far unsubstantiated claim that the bears have a widespread supporter base. Then when I challenged you pointing out that Newtown played in that era you change your story that only the late 80's and 90's count.... right.

After weeks of asking you still haven't produced a scrap of evidence other than you child-like tantrums and insults. All of your opinions are asserted as fact which are anything but.. they are an emotional storm of someone stuck 30 years in the past.

I think I'll take this opportunity to take the advice of others and put you on ignore from this point forward so that I can enjoy threads without your catch-phrases clogging them up.

 

[Perth Red]

Titoe can you please keep the expansion pointless circularly conversation with stallion to the Sydney rationalisation thread! This is about the performance if this tv deal and the next one. Thanks

 

[Perth Red]

Just a reminder, the first year of this new broadcast deal netted the NRL $318mill. Up from $206.2mill in the last year of the last deal (2017). Ex contra

Digital revenue increased $14.7mill but $7.2mill extra was expended to achieve this meaning profit gain was $7.5mill from digital activity.