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2019 R13 Sun - Panthers 19-10 Roosters @ Panthers

Round 13: Panthers v Roosters


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WaznTheGreat

Referee
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Brad Arthur will get 10 year extension for coaching the Knights and Panthers into form,actually make that 15 years when he coaches the Broncos into form next week
 

snickers007

Juniors
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What they are saying is it should have been called a dominant tackle and thus he has more time to get up. If he did indeed call it a dominant tackle then he called the penalty too early.

Anyways, it is what it is and we move on.

And what I'm saying is that a dominant tackle call is not based on any rule. It is an interpretation of the "no delay in the play the ball" rule based on the context of the tackle.

Just like there is no rule saying "penalties after a break must be sin binned". The rule is that deliberate penalties should be sin binned. And also that penalties on the back of a break are mostly deliberate to slow the play down.

In this particular case, despite the strong tackle, the momentum of the game was with Penrith based on the break. And being a one on one tackle, where Manu actually stayed on his feet, there were no other forces stopping him from allowing the player to quickly play the ball. Thus, he deliberately delayed the play the ball, warranting the sin binning.

Again, there is NO SUCH THING as a dominant tackle. Google "NRL interpretations 2019". Surrender Tackle is mentioned, but not dominant.
 

Valheru

Coach
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19,170
And what I'm saying is that a dominant tackle call is not based on any rule. It is an interpretation of the "no delay in the play the ball" rule based on the context of the tackle.

Just like there is no rule saying "penalties after a break must be sin binned". The rule is that deliberate penalties should be sin binned. And also that penalties on the back of a break are mostly deliberate to slow the play down.

In this particular case, despite the strong tackle, the momentum of the game was with Penrith based on the break. And being a one on one tackle, where Manu actually stayed on his feet, there were no other forces stopping him from allowing the player to quickly play the ball. Thus, he deliberately delayed the play the ball, warranting the sin binning.

Again, there is NO SUCH THING as a dominant tackle. Google "NRL interpretations 2019". Surrender Tackle is mentioned, but not dominant.

They call dominant tackles every week.

A line break does not make it impossible for there to be a dominant tackle
 

snickers007

Juniors
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1,634
They call dominant tackles every week.

A line break does not make it impossible for there to be a dominant tackle

Show me where in the Rules of the Game, or the NRL Interpretations of the Rules it mentions dominant tackle and the guidelines around it.

I want a primary source.

If you can't find that, than I'm sorry, but it doesn't exist.
 

Unscrupulous

Bench
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2,796
Apologies. I mispoke. Dominant is not a rule. Surrender is.
The words that came out of Cummins' mouth as he was sending Manu for 10 were "I know it looks strong but it isnt".

This is a clear indication that Cummins did not believe (incredibly) that the tackle was forceful enough to be deemed 'dominant', irrespective of whether it is an official or unofficial rule, and therefore would not have sin binned Manu had he adjudged the tackle forceful enough.
 

Valheru

Coach
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19,170
Show me where in the Rules of the Game, or the NRL Interpretations of the Rules it mentions dominant tackle and the guidelines around it.

I want a primary source.

If you can't find that, than I'm sorry, but it doesn't exist.

I don't care what you want.

Believe it, don't believe it, it doesn't make a difference.

It is over now and we weren't good enough to win.

We move on.
 

OldPanther

Coach
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No. I am straight out TELLING you it wasn't.

As I said earlier, a linebreak does not grant you a fast play the ball. He was demolished in an overwhelmingly dominant tackle and was therefore entitled to slow things down.

We got ripped off on a lot of calls today including a try to RCG when Teddy stripped it so it goes both ways.
 

Dave's mate

Juniors
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1,783
The words that came out of Cummins' mouth as he was sending Manu for 10 were "I know it looks strong but it isnt".

This is a clear indication that Cummins did not believe (incredibly) that the tackle was forceful enough to be deemed 'dominant', irrespective of whether it is an official or unofficial rule, and therefore would not have sin binned Manu had he adjudged the tackle forceful enough.
The last defender held down a player who made a break. Its the clearest 10 you'll ever see you dopey merkin
 

ODC

Juniors
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Some fair weather jersey wearing roosters fan wanted to fight me in the dunnies after the game. I just made chicken noises at him and was followed up with bergerk noises by the rest of the people until he left. Enjoy doonside merkin.
 

Unscrupulous

Bench
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2,796
The last defender held down a player who made a break. Its the clearest 10 you'll ever see you dopey merkin
That's the point you dumbass, he would have been afforded more time to get off had Cummins deemed it a dominant tackle, which anyone with the slightest clue about League knows it was.
 

Fangs

Coach
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13,773
Clear bin decision at the ground and for the viewers at home.

The real story today: the capitulation of the Roosters. Where to now for Cordner's merry men?
 

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