2019 Rule Amendments confirmed

[Danish]

I don’t get why they would have the sin bin rule just be a fine for the club and MAYBE a contrary conduct charge.

Just make dawdling an automatic send off, and back the refs 100% when they enforce it.

It will stop tomorrow

 

[Canard]

I don’t get why they would have the sin bin rule just be a fine for the club and MAYBE a contrary conduct charge.

Just make dawdling an automatic send off, and back the refs 100% when they enforce it.

It will stop tomorrow

Pretty much this.

I'd also make it some sort of further on-field penalty also

 

[unforgiven]

Pretty much this.

I'd also make it some sort of further on-field penalty also

Send off is the biggest onfield penalty available?

 

[Crazyperpman]

When I saw the "Billy Rule" my first thought was that you could not take a quick tap followed by a dive to try and get some poor sod a sin bin.

In all fairness others joined in on the fun a bit later but Billy invented it and when a rule comes in to get rid of it he deserves full credit.

 

[Danish]

Pretty much this.

I'd also make it some sort of further on-field penalty also

How about instead of a send off, if a player takes too long the captain gets binned along with him?

13 v 11 for 10 mins would be a slaughter for most NRL teams, plus it would demand a bit of cooperation between the captain and ref as they both tell the bloke to hurry off.

If it’s the captain being a slow poke, he gets upgraded to a send off for dissent.

 

[Captain Apollo]

How about instead of a send off, if a player takes too long the captain gets binned along with him?

13 v 11 for 10 mins would be a slaughter for most NRL teams, plus it would demand a bit of cooperation between the captain and ref as they both tell the bloke to hurry off.

If it’s the captain being a slow poke, he gets upgraded to a send off for dissent.

Or a slow walk off to the sin bin sees the time increased from 10 minutes to 15 minutes?

 

[Danish]

Or a slow walk off to the sin bin sees the time increased from 10 minutes to 15 minutes?

That’d be good too. Basically anything that includes an actual in game additional punishment that benefits the opposition in the game the offence occurs. Not some pointless $1500 fine later on

 

[myrrh ken]

I don’t get why they would have the sin bin rule just be a fine for the club and MAYBE a contrary conduct charge.

Just make dawdling an automatic send off, and back the refs 100% when they enforce it.

It will stop tomorrow

Agreed. The only merkin who does this is Munster.

2 new rules for Melbourne players.

Complete knee-jerk reaction like the dummy half passing into the offside player rule.

 

[Springs09]

The whole point of it is to avoid the dawdling dickheads we've seen plenty of this year - as long as they aren't going at a snails pace and they're going in a straight line or thereabouts I think they'll be fine.

It should be the most direct route off the field, so if someone gets sin binned on the tryline they go off the dead ball line instead of going all the way back to halfway.

 

[Springs09]

The 'Billy Rule' is ridiculous. They have pretty much brought Shoulder Charge Grade 1 back to 100 points but just called it something else.

Wonder how long it will be until two identical tackles are charged differently based on the time of year and the player's name.

 

[Timmah]

It should be the most direct route off the field, so if someone gets sin binned on the tryline they go off the dead ball line instead of going all the way back to halfway.

As I understand it, play isn't supposed to resume until the player is at the tunnel. Otherwise the first minute or so of their sin bin is a leisurely stroll around the perimeter watching the game, when the player should be well and truly in the sheds.

The 'Billy Rule' is ridiculous. They have pretty much brought Shoulder Charge Grade 1 back to 100 points but just called it something else.

Wonder how long it will be until two identical tackles are charged differently based on the time of year and the player's name.

I'm not quite sure how you gather that the Shoulder Charge rule has somehow changed - the point is that a player doesn't escape scot-free if he's able to get a Shoulder Charge citing dismissed at judiciary - i.e. the prosecution can then ask for a Dangerous Contact charge to apply instead.

 

[Springs09]

As I understand it, play isn't supposed to resume until the player is at the tunnel. Otherwise the first minute or so of their sin bin is a leisurely stroll around the perimeter watching the game, when the player should be well and truly in the sheds.

I'm not quite sure how you gather that the Shoulder Charge rule has somehow changed - the point is that a player doesn't escape scot-free if he's able to get a Shoulder Charge citing dismissed at judiciary - i.e. the prosecution can then ask for a Dangerous Contact charge to apply instead.

Jesus Christ. I didn't say the shoulder charge rule has changed - I said they have effectively brought back Grade 1 charges to 100 points. The shoulder charge rule changed last year when they ruled Billy Slater's shoulder charge was not a shoulder charge. Prior to that they had changed the shoulder charge rule so that Grade 1s were stupidly worth 200 points and an automatic suspension in an attempt to stamp it out completely. If Grade 1s were still worth 100 points there is no way Billy Slater gets off completely. Now they have brought in the dangerous contact charge so that any shoulder charges that they decide a big game suspension for is too harsh, they can charge them with 'dangerous contact' and give them 100 points and they are free to play. It's effectively just shoulder charge Grade 1 and Grade 2 but under different names.

And yeah I couldn't really care if the first minute of their sin bin is a stroll around the sidelines, I'd rather the game get on with it as quick as possible. They spend the last 2 minutes of their sin bin watching from just outside the tunnel anyway.

 

[Timmah]

And yeah I couldn't really care if the first minute of their sin bin is a stroll around the sidelines, I'd rather the game get on with it as quick as possible. They spend the last 2 minutes of their sin bin watching from just outside the tunnel anyway.

I've always understood the bulk of a sin bin should be spent in the sheds, if a player can get nearly half their time on the sidelines watching the game its not really effective is it?

 

[siv]

I don’t get why they would have the sin bin rule just be a fine for the club and MAYBE a contrary conduct charge.

Just make dawdling an automatic send off, and back the refs 100% when they enforce it.

It will stop tomorrow

You would need a sin bin clock to enforce it

 

[siv]

I've always understood the bulk of a sin bin should be spent in the sheds, if a player can get nearly half their time on the sidelines watching the game its not really effective is it?

10 min sin bin should not start until they enter the tunnel

But I would only allow 15 sec to leave the playing arena. I like the send off option. It passes the Grand Final test

 

[siv]

As I understand it, play isn't supposed to resume until the player is at the tunnel. Otherwise the first minute or so of their sin bin is a leisurely stroll around the perimeter watching the game, when the player should be well and truly in the sheds.

Play should restart once he is over the sideline

But 10 min sin bin should not start until he enters the tunnel

 

[Timmah]

Play should restart once he is over the sideline

But 10 min sin bin should not start until he enters the tunnel

That I can probably support.

 

[Someguy]

define ‘run from the field of play’????

too grey for mine. give them 15 seconds to be off the field, then go down the contrary conduct path. One mans run is another mans jog.

This makes more sense. Give them a time limit if they are not off quick enough the captain goes too (or co captain if the binned player is captain)

Edit: just read first page Danish was in with this idea before me

 

[Iafeta]

The NRL today announced changes to the rules which will come into effect from the 2019 NRL Telstra Premiership season.

Head of Football – Elite Competitions, Graham Annesley said the changes were aimed at increasing "ball in play" time and improving player safety.

The new rules for 2019 will include:

• A reduction of the scrum clock – reducing from 35 to 30 seconds

• A reduction of the drop-out clock – reducing from 30 to 25 seconds

• An increase to dangerous contact neck or head charges – with Grade 2 increasing to 300 points and Grade 3 increasing to 500 points (a Grade 1 charge will remain at 100 points)

• Any player sent to the sin bin or sent off will be required to run from the field of play, taking the most direct route to the dressing room. Failure to do so may lead to Clubs being breached and fined under NRL Rules and/or offending players may be charged with Contrary Conduct under the NRL Judiciary Code

• Allowing the Judiciary Panel to find a player guilty of an alternative charge when charged with a Shoulder Charge (e.g. Dangerous Contact)

Mr Annesley also confirmed that no change would be made to the number of interchange players for season 2019.

But he said further assessment will be conducted throughout the first half of next season, before a decision is made on any future reductions for 2020 onwards.

Mr Annesley said the amendments were designed to reduce the amount of stoppage time in games, increase the time the ball is in play and simplify operational practices and procedures.

The increased penalties for dangerous contact to neck and head follows a rise in the number of crusher tackles last season.

"There is clearly an unacceptable risk of injury from these tackles and we believe we need to have an adequate deterrent in place to improve player safety," Mr Annesley said.

"We have a world-class competition, with the 2018 season the closest in more than a decade," Mr Annesley said.

"But we can always improve and our aim with these rule amendments is to continue to deliver exciting and engaging matches for players, fans, broadcasters and all our stakeholders."

LINK: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/12/18/2019-season-rule-amendments/

Seems good to me. I like that they have to get off the field quicker, and that just hiring some smart douche QC to find a technicality in the wording of a charge doesn’t necessarily mean you get off with foul play at the judiciary.

 

[Danish]

You would need a sin bin clock to enforce it

I don’t think so.

Dawdling IMO isn’t a time wasting issue - honestly players walking slowly off is great theatre as it fires up the crowd immensely and builds up the situation. Cam smith getting bummed against the Sharks was made infinitely sweeter by him walking to halfway and dragging it out while the entire rugby league world cheered.

The problem with dawdling is its a dissent thing. The ref tells them to get off, but they waste time and drag their feet. All we need to stop it is for a ref to give the player a warning to hurry up, then if they keep dragging ass send them off. Do this once and no player will ever so it again.