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2020 PF2 - Storm 30-10 Raiders @ Suncorp

Finals Week 3: Storm v Raiders


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gerg

Juniors
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Well done storm. Hats off. Amazing club. Just keep producing. Go Penrith. 2 best clubs this year. Happy for either to win.

As much as I've wanted my team (Raiders) to win, it's pretty clear that Storm and Panthers have been the standout teams this year and would actually make for a cracking grand final. Both sides playing a quick, expansive game with speed and attacking weapons all over the park. JAC has been amazing this year. Probably my favourite player to watch at the moment and S Crichton a close second. He is going to be a great centre IMO.
 

Reflector

Juniors
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1,369
Fundamentally, (cap management aside) the issue with there being so many Roosters/ Storm GF's over the past two decades is this:

Neither team has what you'd call a strong local flavour. Melbourne (since day 1) has had virtually all its' players and staff come from elsewhere. The fact they've been playing out of the Sunshine Coast with a former Qld captain leading them on the park and a former NSW coach leading them off it seems rather fitting. They're an artificially created team with a niche supporter base and hardly (if any) local juniors. When they win the GF they go back and celebrate in a city (and a state) that glances at it for 2 seconds before going back to a passionate debate about what should be the away strips for North and Collingwood or who the AFL should adopt as official breakfast cereal. For all their success, the Storm are a franchise full of expats with a niche following from a place that barely notices they exist- and I don't see how that's going to change?

The Roosters have supporters from all over Australia, but their traditional heartland these days is geographically small and hardly what you'd call a big RL area. Again, hardly (if any) local juniors. When the Roosters win a GF it seems like their fans (mostly) go back north/ south/ west/ interstate and celebrate individually. It's a celebration you're much more likely to see on social media than on the streets of Bondi Junction.

(Incoming Category 5 Smug Alert- Warning)

What's been refreshing about Penrith is that they're a huge league area. You look at that squad and there's a strong local element to it. They've recruited players from elsewhere and there's Panthers fans scattered around the country BUT- if the Panthers go all the way this season, not since Cronulla in 2016 will there be a real sense that winning the comp genuinely means something collectively to the area they are from.
 

greenBV4

Juniors
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1,949
I love how blind everyone must be to the fact we we regularly have the 3rd-4th highest membership and average attendance in the league, yet we apparently only have a small "niche" following...

Over 25k members this year, second most followed sports team in the country on social media, and the second highest tv audience on both FTA and PTV.

get your heads out of 1998
 
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Reflector

Juniors
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1,369
I love how blind everyone must be to the fact we we regularly have the 3rd-4th highest membership and average attendance in the league, yet we apparently only have a small "niche" following...

Over 25k members this year, second most followed sports team in the country on social media, and the second highest tv audience on both FTA and PTV.

get your heads out of 1998


Remember the swelling in support for the Brisbane Lions (crowds and membership-wise) in the early 2000's though? How much of the current support are simply backing a winner, and would the majority of them stick around if top 4 wasn't a near certainty every season? Time will tell...

Re. s/m and TV audiences, in both of these it's possible to follow several teams on s/m and watch plenty of teams on TV. The Storm have been one of the top performing teams of the last decade so games featuring them are going to rate well. Following my observations last night, it truly wouldn't surprise me if a notable percentage of the Storm followers on s/m also followed the Broncos s/m and had at least one Brisbane jersey mothballed.
 

greenBV4

Juniors
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Remember the swelling in support for the Brisbane Lions (crowds and membership-wise) in the early 2000's though? How much of the current support are simply backing a winner, and would the majority of them stick around if top 4 wasn't a near certainty every season? Time will tell...
Yeah time will tell, but if you look at a chart it hasn't been an instant swell of support but gradual growth, which is more promising
 

Lebbo73

Juniors
Messages
1,366
I’m not justifying anything Gallen was a hot head but he matured as player in his senior years, yet Smith does what He does on the field and people like you are f**king ok with it..
Does what? Ennis used to get up to shit all the way to the finish. So what? Smith very rarely gets suspended so your sooking is a mute point. He couldn’t be too bad. Gallen carried on like a goose but it very rarely worked for him.
 

Generalzod

Referee
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26,978
Does what? Ennis used to get up to shit all the way to the finish. So what? Smith very rarely gets suspended so your sooking is a mute point. He couldn’t be too bad. Gallen carried on like a goose but it very rarely worked for him.
That’s because he is a protected species, don’t let your hatred for NSW cloud your judgement, Smith antics on the field is just as bad as Gallen did, in Smith’s case He called an immortal, more like an immortal wanker.
 
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STORM.99/07

Bench
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2,754
Fundamentally, (cap management aside) the issue with there being so many Roosters/ Storm GF's over the past two decades is this:

Neither team has what you'd call a strong local flavour. Melbourne (since day 1) has had virtually all its' players and staff come from elsewhere. The fact they've been playing out of the Sunshine Coast with a former Qld captain leading them on the park and a former NSW coach leading them off it seems rather fitting. They're an artificially created team with a niche supporter base and hardly (if any) local juniors. When they win the GF they go back and celebrate in a city (and a state) that glances at it for 2 seconds before going back to a passionate debate about what should be the away strips for North and Collingwood or who the AFL should adopt as official breakfast cereal. For all their success, the Storm are a franchise full of expats with a niche following from a place that barely notices they exist- and I don't see how that's going to change?

The Roosters have supporters from all over Australia, but their traditional heartland these days is geographically small and hardly what you'd call a big RL area. Again, hardly (if any) local juniors. When the Roosters win a GF it seems like their fans (mostly) go back north/ south/ west/ interstate and celebrate individually. It's a celebration you're much more likely to see on social media than on the streets of Bondi Junction.

(Incoming Category 5 Smug Alert- Warning)

What's been refreshing about Penrith is that they're a huge league area. You look at that squad and there's a strong local element to it. They've recruited players from elsewhere and there's Panthers fans scattered around the country BUT- if the Panthers go all the way this season, not since Cronulla in 2016 will there be a real sense that winning the comp genuinely means something collectively to the area they are from.
What a load of shit
 

Lebbo73

Juniors
Messages
1,366
That’s because he is a protected species, don’t let your hatred for NSW cloud your judgement, Smith antics on the field is just as bad as Gallen did, in Smith’s case He called an immortal, more like an immortal wanker.
I don’t hate NSW. 50% of my bloodline comes from there. Your problem is that you only see what you want to see in regards to Smith. Has all those Origin series losses scarred you worse than I thought? It’s alright, you’ll win your third series in a row this year.
 

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