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2021 Rnd 24 V Wests Tigers

Michael Matral

Juniors
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The only point of contention for me is the obvious Momo at centre but defensively it'll be good so I guess can't complain too much. I want Edwards to play because he's 2021 fullback in our strongest 17 but should be rested after the head knock.



That only happened due to Edwards going off.
Agreed, but still a little experimental considering he had never played wing for us before.. I also agree that Dyl is a first choice proven fullback, Critta has great potential though.
 

gurmiyrg__

Juniors
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My concern is that Storm love to kick long downfield to Fox on the break or 20m restart, and without Staines we have no one to contest the chase. Pretty much just a free 6 points for storm
That's the same issue I have, we have no out and out speedsters in our team other than Staines to chase down in such scenarios. Although everyone else's wingers (and even FBs) in the teams bound for finals are somewhat able to be managed/defended. Kicks from Munster and Co. from their own half down the field for someone like Addo-Carr is not something you can get ready for...
 

The_Frog

First Grade
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Don't want Tyrone May to sneak back into the side. f**k him off for good, the little sex pest.
It's a season and a half since he came back into the team, so whether he is there or not now would seem to be determined by form. I think he'll be the bench utility for this game if he's fit just to give him a run.
 

Girds89

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My concern is that Storm love to kick long downfield to Fox on the break or 20m restart, and without Staines we have no one to contest the chase. Pretty much just a free 6 points for storm

I have watched almost all melbournes games this year and i havent seen them once put a kick in out of their own end just specifically for ado carr because he is fast.

That is such a low low percentage play which has never been in bellamys play book. Hed be furious about a play like that. They kick and ado carr chases and puts pressure on etc. Not specifically for him to get the ball back. And most timea they do that they are in an attacking position/part of the field and the opposing winger is up.

When hughes has kicked early its either been for a 40/20 or just to get good field position.

They kicked for ado carr when we versed them in rd 2 once when they were on our 40m line Staines turnes well and knocked it dead.

Edwards is one of the best positioning fbs in the comp and critta is definitley no slouch. He will just give himself and extra 2 or 3m and he will be fine.

Reality is that over a 100m sprint charlie would be close or equal to JAC and i reckon critta would be 5-10m behind. So roughly 0.5 to 1 sec slower.

If they kick early JAC still needs to be behind the kicker make up the 10m to our line than chase critta who may already be back 5m+...

JAC is quick but making up 12m+ minimum is a huge distance over a 50m kick chase.

Unless they kick for JAC and him and critta are basically standing in the line together i wouldnt worry about it. Even than edwards is great at reading that stuff and is never really out of position.
 

gurmiyrg__

Juniors
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I have watched almost all melbournes games this year and i havent seen them once put a kick in out of their own end just specifically for ado carr because he is fast.

That is such a low low percentage play which has never been in bellamys play book. Hed be furious about a play like that. They kick and ado carr chases and puts pressure on etc. Not specifically for him to get the ball back. And most timea they do that they are in an attacking position/part of the field and the opposing winger is up.

When hughes has kicked early its either been for a 40/20 or just to get good field position.

They kicked for ado carr when we versed them in rd 2 once when they were on our 40m line Staines turnes well and knocked it dead.

Edwards is one of the best positioning fbs in the comp and critta is definitley no slouch. He will just give himself and extra 2 or 3m and he will be fine.

Reality is that over a 100m sprint charlie would be close or equal to JAC and i reckon critta would be 5-10m behind. So roughly 0.5 to 1 sec slower.

If they kick early JAC still needs to be behind the kicker make up the 10m to our line than chase critta who may already be back 5m+...

JAC is quick but making up 12m+ minimum is a huge distance over a 50m kick chase.

Unless they kick for JAC and him and critta are basically standing in the line together i wouldnt worry about it. Even than edwards is great at reading that stuff and is never really out of position.
Fair shout but just a thought/idea that a speedster in a team helps, but we have some good juniors coming through that aren't any slouches either so no need to go looking for one
 

unKwn

Juniors
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I have watched almost all melbournes games this year and i havent seen them once put a kick in out of their own end just specifically for ado carr because he is fast.

That is such a low low percentage play which has never been in bellamys play book. Hed be furious about a play like that. They kick and ado carr chases and puts pressure on etc. Not specifically for him to get the ball back. And most timea they do that they are in an attacking position/part of the field and the opposing winger is up.

When hughes has kicked early its either been for a 40/20 or just to get good field position.

They kicked for ado carr when we versed them in rd 2 once when they were on our 40m line Staines turnes well and knocked it dead.

Edwards is one of the best positioning fbs in the comp and critta is definitley no slouch. He will just give himself and extra 2 or 3m and he will be fine.

Reality is that over a 100m sprint charlie would be close or equal to JAC and i reckon critta would be 5-10m behind. So roughly 0.5 to 1 sec slower.

If they kick early JAC still needs to be behind the kicker make up the 10m to our line than chase critta who may already be back 5m+...

JAC is quick but making up 12m+ minimum is a huge distance over a 50m kick chase.

Unless they kick for JAC and him and critta are basically standing in the line together i wouldnt worry about it. Even than edwards is great at reading that stuff and is never really out of position.
They did it against us and against Roosters (they scored when they did it against them), and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen them do it a couple more times. Even if it’s not a length of the field kick, a simple kick into the in goal with Fox racing onto it is very dangerous, we should have that covered as you said Edwards has good positioning. But you never know. I still think Fox would have scored against us in round 3 if not for Staines
 

unKwn

Juniors
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Frankly I just don’t like the idea of tampering with the lineup this close to the finals. We all saw what happened last year. I just think having a right edge of Critta Staines provides a better dynamic to the team. Yes Charlie’s hit ups out our end are poor, but that shouldn’t be an issue with Bizza in the team now. Even if you were to have Critta Naden as the right edge it would work better. Critta has a really nice flick pass that isn’t going to be utilised now with him on the wing, and Momo well yea he can’t pass, only kick. I just don’t know if he’s our centre option going into the finals. That right edge is a lot more one dimensional now
 

gurmiyrg__

Juniors
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Frankly I just don’t like the idea of tampering with the lineup this close to the finals. We all saw what happened last year. I just think having a right edge of Critta Staines provides a better dynamic to the team. Yes Charlie’s hit ups out our end are poor, but that shouldn’t be an issue with Bizza in the team now. Even if you were to have Critta Naden as the right edge it would work better. Critta has a really nice flick pass that isn’t going to be utilised now with him on the wing, and Momo well yea he can’t pass, only kick. I just don’t know if he’s our centre option going into the finals. That right edge is a lot more one dimensional now
This can all be solved with a simple switch with Momo on the wing and Critta retains his position at right centre. Then we'd go into finals with no issue
 

stryker

First Grade
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One of the most average players in the game. Not creative enough for the halves, doesn't have the running game to be a good centre. Tries hard occasionally but so ordinary.
Yeah but in Tigerland he is the next immortal. Just ask them.
 

stryker

First Grade
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🤣🤣🤣
That Dave O’Neil is such a softcock…imagine still being this butthurt over some sledging.
Wests Tigers are an atrocious football club. The team is abysmal and the management weak as water. The coaching staff are clueless.
BUT we live inside Dave O’Neils head 24/7 and that is hilarious stuff. You could put 70 past our side easily but he won’t be satisfied as his feelings got hurt a few months ago and that will be our triumph.
 

mxlegend99

Referee
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Frankly I just don’t like the idea of tampering with the lineup this close to the finals. We all saw what happened last year. I just think having a right edge of Critta Staines provides a better dynamic to the team. Yes Charlie’s hit ups out our end are poor, but that shouldn’t be an issue with Bizza in the team now. Even if you were to have Critta Naden as the right edge it would work better. Critta has a really nice flick pass that isn’t going to be utilised now with him on the wing, and Momo well yea he can’t pass, only kick. I just don’t know if he’s our centre option going into the finals. That right edge is a lot more one dimensional now
Agreed.

Prior to Origin we were pumping sides with the best defence in the league and an attack that was just improving every week. Now with Nathan busting his shoulder that attack might not quiet have the same potential, but it was still pretty much a damn near perfectly balanced line up.

Throwing TPJ in to that side improves it a bit.

I think if Momo stays on the wing he can probably offer enough that we can still win a comp. I think we can go with just about any winger on that edge and we have a pretty lethal side. But if he's at centre he fires blanks and his winger does too which means Crichton is not going to be near as damaging as he is capable of being. I see him at centre as weakening centre and wing.
 

PANTHERMIKE

Juniors
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🤣🤣🤣
That Dave O’Neil is such a softcock…imagine still being this butthurt over some sledging.
Wests Tigers are an atrocious football club. The team is abysmal and the management weak as water. The coaching staff are clueless.
BUT we live inside Dave O’Neils head 24/7 and that is hilarious stuff. You could put 70 past our side easily but he won’t be satisfied as his feelings got hurt a few months ago and that will be our triumph.
Pretty sure it’s called marketing. As he said, it sells the house out this type of shit.... So why not build it year in year out.
You think he gives a f**k about the shitty tigers who haven’t made a finals series in a decade ? 😂😂
 

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