Kikau made 6 or so errors
Cleary fails to find touch
Throws an intercept
We complete 60%
the whole game was poor. Changing a centre alone doesn't help
Exactly. We pretty much all played like shit, it was not just one decision at right centre that caused it, we choked.
Ivan tampering with a side that had won its last 16 straight. He overthought things and played himself, it was poor coaching
He had all year to play someone else at centre. You dont change a side in a semifinalIf things weren't changed and we lost. Then it is why didn't he change something after poor finals game. It was a no win situation
Naden really got exposed during the finals against the Roosters. That was when Ivan decided he couldn't start with him.He had all year to play someone else at centre. You dont change a side in a semifinal
He had all year to play someone else at centre. You dont change a side in a semifinal
And it proved a mistakeNaden really got exposed during the finals against the Roosters. That was when Ivan decided he couldn't start with him.
And it proved a mistake
Name me one centre that hasn't had a shocker in defence at some point.
IC thought he'd outsmart Bellamy and put tmay in to tighten up our defence. In reality it played right into Bellamy's hands and he targeted thst side knowing tmay is very slow laterally.
Ivan had a great year as coach but that was a blunder.
Yep and all get dropped at some point you hope they come back better at some stage. As is the case here.
Targetted that side? By Vunivalu intercept? Or the Cam Smith try when Api knocked it out?
Great postYour constant defence of ivan gets a bit old. No one is saying he had a shit year,just the decision to drop naden was clearly wrong.
If you think dropping players after a few poor reads in defence is how to coach then you're way off the mark haha.
He had an average game in defence against the chooks but IC had a knee jerk reaction and dropped him after being very good all year. If he'd had 4 or 5 average games in a row sure, but thst definitely wasn't the case.
He was clearly targeted. You can't seriously watch the gf and tell me he wasn't. Bellamy knew he was slow laterally and it was exploited. They don't have to score try's one on one against tmay to prove he was targeted lol.
The play of the scrum where Paps scored was a perfect example of If Naden was there he wouldn't of scored.
Paps targeted Nathan and may knowing may is slower laterally. Tmay shouldve jammed in because it was obvious Nathan was burned. Olam was 6m back and was never going to get the ball. Even if he did he was so far back that Nathan etc wouldve been able to slide and cover easily. When tmay realised Nathan was burned he tried to jam in but was just way to slow.
A clear play by Bellamy to target the slow inexperienced centre Tmay. Naden has the lateral speed there to cover the inside (paps), or if he'd passed to olam, like I said he was so far back Naden Nathan wouldve been able to slide and cover.
Pretty basic defence really. Whare was much slower in his later years but he'd still have stopped that. Stay tight and slide backwards if they spread with inside d covering any inside balls. Tmay got exposed and so did ivan.
Would naden have won us the gf. Of course not. But like I've said twice know, that was never what my original post was about.
Your constant defence of ivan gets a bit old. No one is saying he had a shit year,just the decision to drop naden was clearly wrong.
If you think dropping players after a few poor reads in defence is how to coach then you're way off the mark haha.
He had an average game in defence against the chooks but IC had a knee jerk reaction and dropped him after being very good all year. If he'd had 4 or 5 average games in a row sure, but thst definitely wasn't the case.
He was clearly targeted. You can't seriously watch the gf and tell me he wasn't. Bellamy knew he was slow laterally and it was exploited. They don't have to score try's one on one against tmay to prove he was targeted lol.
The play of the scrum where Paps scored was a perfect example of If Naden was there he wouldn't of scored.
Paps targeted Nathan and may knowing may is slower laterally. Tmay shouldve jammed in because it was obvious Nathan was burned. Olam was 6m back and was never going to get the ball. Even if he did he was so far back that Nathan etc wouldve been able to slide and cover easily. When tmay realised Nathan was burned he tried to jam in but was just way to slow.
A clear play by Bellamy to target the slow inexperienced centre Tmay. Naden has the lateral speed there to cover the inside (paps), or if he'd passed to olam, like I said he was so far back Naden Nathan wouldve been able to slide and cover.
Pretty basic defence really. Whare was much slower in his later years but he'd still have stopped that. Stay tight and slide backwards if they spread with inside d covering any inside balls. Tmay got exposed and so did ivan.
Would naden have won us the gf. Of course not. But like I've said twice know, that was never what my original post was about.
May was used a few times during the year. Including Round 20. Played in the PF so it wasn't like it was just a GF change
The issue for me was not having another option ready to go.
Good to know we will have multiple options in most positions in 2021 and shouldn’t be stuck in that situation again!
Ivan is an ordinary coach. You won't get an argument from me BUT I think Naden is a winger not a centre.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think that?
It's fine you do. Others on here think the same, I just really dont get it.
Hes always been a centre right the way through the grades. Captained NYC to premiership from centre.
Yes he is still learning in defence but like I said, last season was basically he's first full fg season.
Just cause he is tall and good under the high ball doesn't mean he needs to be a winger. He can attack kicks from centre field and in fact Nathan tends to put in attacking bombs more midfield, away from the wing anyway to keep the ball infield and more likely in play. Watch all our games from last season. 90% of the time it's naden/Martin attacking them on the right. Not the winger. It was very effective too.
I think he's strengths definitely are more suited to centre, a position he's played his whole footy career.