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2021 season

betcats

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yeah on paper they seem like future prospects but who knows how quick they will come along

Yeah we dont need it to happen our depth will be good regardless but if one or both kicks on quicker than expected you never know. Both have jumped some guys in the pecking order.

Last year May was in flegg and Jenkins was in NSW cup over the rounds that got played, now May has a FG contract and Jenkins cant even get into the cup side.
 
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The two big questions for the season are

1. Will the prop rotation hold up?

2. Do we have enough experience in the lineup?

Other than that the squad is in very good shape, well rounded and good depth.
 

betcats

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I am still finding it strange that we havent filled that spot on the roster. I am a little suspicious we have not heard the last of the Burton situation, possibly keeping room to get two players in return? Wakeham and a forward. Maybe overthinking it a bit.
 

betcats

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ch...came-the-ceo-of-panthers-20210312-p57a2l.html


Nathan Cleary may be the superstar and face of the young Panthers but there is one player seen by the club as even more valuable on and off the field.

Jarome Luai has been dubbed the “cultural architect” and “chief energy officer”, or “CEO”, of Penrith with coach Ivan Cleary saying the five-eighth “helps fit all the pieces together”.

“‘Romy’ [Luai] is one of those guys who offers more than his own individual contribution,” Cleary told the Herald before Saturday’s opener against North Queensland.

“He’s our cultural architect in many ways - his energy and his ability help bring the group together. He’s probably annoying to other teams - he’s annoying to our guys sometimes as well - but he’s a really crucial piece to our team.”


Luai was the last of the club’s off-contract young stars to extend his deal. A three-year $2.1m contract has tied him to the neighbourhood until at least the end of 2024.

The playmaker, who is pushing to try and partner Cleary in the halves for NSW, said the ‘CEO’ nickname was not one he had given himself but he still welcomed it.

“Yes, ‘chief energy officer’, I didn’t ask for it but it’s to do with the energy I have,” he said.

“I try to be positive all the time and be happy. Even when we’re doing fitness, I love having that attitude of trying to attack the session. We don’t play footy forever, so you have to love what you do.”

Luai sprints from one end of the field to the far corner-post before every training session. Even when the mercury plummets in July and August at the foot of the mountains, he will tear down the field. He did likewise when brought into the Blues camp last year.

Luai said it helped him focus and prepare for the session ahead.

Teammate Brian To’o, who will shift from the right to the left wing to complete an all-Mt Druitt back line with Luai and Stephen Crichton, said he had never seen Luai not jovial. The pre-training sprints were also infectious.

“He drives me to training every day, and when he rocks up to my house he’s forever beeping,” To’o said. “He does the same when he drops me off. We’ll put the tunes on and do our karaoke. I’ve never seen him down.

“I’m looking forward to playing with him this year. It will be a pretty special left edge. Myself, ‘Critter’ [Crichton] and ‘Romes’, we’re very close outside of footy, and to come into 2021 and be told we’ll all be playing alongside each other, it’s something we’re looking forward to.”

To’o has vowed to produce some TikTok-inspired try celebrations for his nieces should he get across the line against the Cowboys.

Cleary and Luai have played together since they were teenagers at the foot of the mountains and should improve after their first full season together in the top flight last year. Luai improved so much in the run to the finals that there were games he outplayed the No.7.

When signing his deal late last month, he said: “One of the reasons I wanted to stay was to play with my best mates, we’re like brothers here – we’re like family - and I can’t wait to see how we go this year. I do think we can go one better, 100 per cent.
 

WestyLife

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ch...came-the-ceo-of-panthers-20210312-p57a2l.html


Nathan Cleary may be the superstar and face of the young Panthers but there is one player seen by the club as even more valuable on and off the field.

Jarome Luai has been dubbed the “cultural architect” and “chief energy officer”, or “CEO”, of Penrith with coach Ivan Cleary saying the five-eighth “helps fit all the pieces together”.

“‘Romy’ [Luai] is one of those guys who offers more than his own individual contribution,” Cleary told the Herald before Saturday’s opener against North Queensland.

“He’s our cultural architect in many ways - his energy and his ability help bring the group together. He’s probably annoying to other teams - he’s annoying to our guys sometimes as well - but he’s a really crucial piece to our team.”


Luai was the last of the club’s off-contract young stars to extend his deal. A three-year $2.1m contract has tied him to the neighbourhood until at least the end of 2024.

The playmaker, who is pushing to try and partner Cleary in the halves for NSW, said the ‘CEO’ nickname was not one he had given himself but he still welcomed it.

“Yes, ‘chief energy officer’, I didn’t ask for it but it’s to do with the energy I have,” he said.

“I try to be positive all the time and be happy. Even when we’re doing fitness, I love having that attitude of trying to attack the session. We don’t play footy forever, so you have to love what you do.”

Luai sprints from one end of the field to the far corner-post before every training session. Even when the mercury plummets in July and August at the foot of the mountains, he will tear down the field. He did likewise when brought into the Blues camp last year.

Luai said it helped him focus and prepare for the session ahead.

Teammate Brian To’o, who will shift from the right to the left wing to complete an all-Mt Druitt back line with Luai and Stephen Crichton, said he had never seen Luai not jovial. The pre-training sprints were also infectious.

“He drives me to training every day, and when he rocks up to my house he’s forever beeping,” To’o said. “He does the same when he drops me off. We’ll put the tunes on and do our karaoke. I’ve never seen him down.

“I’m looking forward to playing with him this year. It will be a pretty special left edge. Myself, ‘Critter’ [Crichton] and ‘Romes’, we’re very close outside of footy, and to come into 2021 and be told we’ll all be playing alongside each other, it’s something we’re looking forward to.”

To’o has vowed to produce some TikTok-inspired try celebrations for his nieces should he get across the line against the Cowboys.

Cleary and Luai have played together since they were teenagers at the foot of the mountains and should improve after their first full season together in the top flight last year. Luai improved so much in the run to the finals that there were games he outplayed the No.7.

When signing his deal late last month, he said: “One of the reasons I wanted to stay was to play with my best mates, we’re like brothers here – we’re like family - and I can’t wait to see how we go this year. I do think we can go one better, 100 per cent.

Wasn't Luai rated better than Cleary in Juniors?
 
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ch...came-the-ceo-of-panthers-20210312-p57a2l.html


Nathan Cleary may be the superstar and face of the young Panthers but there is one player seen by the club as even more valuable on and off the field.

Jarome Luai has been dubbed the “cultural architect” and “chief energy officer”, or “CEO”, of Penrith with coach Ivan Cleary saying the five-eighth “helps fit all the pieces together”.

“‘Romy’ [Luai] is one of those guys who offers more than his own individual contribution,” Cleary told the Herald before Saturday’s opener against North Queensland.

“He’s our cultural architect in many ways - his energy and his ability help bring the group together. He’s probably annoying to other teams - he’s annoying to our guys sometimes as well - but he’s a really crucial piece to our team.”


Luai was the last of the club’s off-contract young stars to extend his deal. A three-year $2.1m contract has tied him to the neighbourhood until at least the end of 2024.

The playmaker, who is pushing to try and partner Cleary in the halves for NSW, said the ‘CEO’ nickname was not one he had given himself but he still welcomed it.

“Yes, ‘chief energy officer’, I didn’t ask for it but it’s to do with the energy I have,” he said.

“I try to be positive all the time and be happy. Even when we’re doing fitness, I love having that attitude of trying to attack the session. We don’t play footy forever, so you have to love what you do.”

Luai sprints from one end of the field to the far corner-post before every training session. Even when the mercury plummets in July and August at the foot of the mountains, he will tear down the field. He did likewise when brought into the Blues camp last year.

Luai said it helped him focus and prepare for the session ahead.

Teammate Brian To’o, who will shift from the right to the left wing to complete an all-Mt Druitt back line with Luai and Stephen Crichton, said he had never seen Luai not jovial. The pre-training sprints were also infectious.

“He drives me to training every day, and when he rocks up to my house he’s forever beeping,” To’o said. “He does the same when he drops me off. We’ll put the tunes on and do our karaoke. I’ve never seen him down.

“I’m looking forward to playing with him this year. It will be a pretty special left edge. Myself, ‘Critter’ [Crichton] and ‘Romes’, we’re very close outside of footy, and to come into 2021 and be told we’ll all be playing alongside each other, it’s something we’re looking forward to.”

To’o has vowed to produce some TikTok-inspired try celebrations for his nieces should he get across the line against the Cowboys.

Cleary and Luai have played together since they were teenagers at the foot of the mountains and should improve after their first full season together in the top flight last year. Luai improved so much in the run to the finals that there were games he outplayed the No.7.

When signing his deal late last month, he said: “One of the reasons I wanted to stay was to play with my best mates, we’re like brothers here – we’re like family - and I can’t wait to see how we go this year. I do think we can go one better, 100 per cent.


12+ months ago I was convinced Luai was the perfect partner for Cleary much for these same reasons. He’s an X factor, a Jack in the box, an energy guy. He just needed to find the right balance between being too off the cuff and to structured. He was brilliant last year. I’d like to see him step up his involvement a little more as well, he could do more bombs and general play kicks especially.
 

betcats

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I think around HM he was or at least Gus said soemthing like that.

Edit: This may be it @WestyLife

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/jarome...n-cleary/d83204a6-d266-4694-ba3a-38b2aa839059


Not the full article:

He's the young Panthers playmaker likened to Rabbitohs star Cody Walker and rated a better junior prospect than NSW Origin halfback Nathan Cleary.

Jarome Luai has been branded the future of Penrith by club icon Phil Gould, who is hoping that the 22-year-old can haul the Panthers and Cleary out of their NRL slump.

The Panthers are last in the NRL with a 2-8 record heading into Round 11, where Luai will start at five-eighth against Parramatta for suspended veteran James Maloney.


Luai was a halves partner for Cleary in juniors and showed his class in his starting debut last season, when he led a 36-4 win over the Warriors while Cleary and Maloney were on Origin duty.

"Jarome Luai is the future of the Panthers," Gould said on the Six Tackles with Gus podcast, speaking with James Bracey.

"He and Nathan played a lot of football together as youngsters. They’re great mates and I think whilst James Maloney has been wonderful for Panthers and wonderful for Nathan Cleary, this just might be a breath of fresh air in the team that they need at the moment.
"I can tell you, back at 16, 17 years of age when they were playing together, we actually rated Jarome better than Nathan at that time. Jerome [is] extremely fast, very skillful, great kicking game and great football instincts.
 

WestyLife

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I think around HM he was or at least Gus said soemthing like that.

Edit: This may be it @WestyLife

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/jarome...n-cleary/d83204a6-d266-4694-ba3a-38b2aa839059


Not the full article:

He's the young Panthers playmaker likened to Rabbitohs star Cody Walker and rated a better junior prospect than NSW Origin halfback Nathan Cleary.

Jarome Luai has been branded the future of Penrith by club icon Phil Gould, who is hoping that the 22-year-old can haul the Panthers and Cleary out of their NRL slump.

The Panthers are last in the NRL with a 2-8 record heading into Round 11, where Luai will start at five-eighth against Parramatta for suspended veteran James Maloney.


Luai was a halves partner for Cleary in juniors and showed his class in his starting debut last season, when he led a 36-4 win over the Warriors while Cleary and Maloney were on Origin duty.

"Jarome Luai is the future of the Panthers," Gould said on the Six Tackles with Gus podcast, speaking with James Bracey.

"He and Nathan played a lot of football together as youngsters. They’re great mates and I think whilst James Maloney has been wonderful for Panthers and wonderful for Nathan Cleary, this just might be a breath of fresh air in the team that they need at the moment.
"I can tell you, back at 16, 17 years of age when they were playing together, we actually rated Jarome better than Nathan at that time. Jerome [is] extremely fast, very skillful, great kicking game and great football instincts.
Ha I'm not crazy!
 
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I suppose you could see why Luai would’ve grabbed more attention, he’s flashy to Nathan’s more by the numbers approach.

I really hope we see Luai do more kicking. Not that Nathan isn’t a great kicker, but spreading it out more will keep the defence guessing. Might also give Nathan an opportunity to run the ball a bit more if the defence don’t know who to lock down.
 

WestyLife

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I suppose you could see why Luai would’ve grabbed more attention, he’s flashy to Nathan’s more by the numbers approach.

I really hope we see Luai do more kicking. Not that Nathan isn’t a great kicker, but spreading it out more will keep the defence guessing. Might also give Nathan an opportunity to run the ball a bit more if the defence don’t know who to lock down.

That'd be smart. Buys Cleary time when they can't isolate him as well.
 

The Realist

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I don’t think so. Cleary played all the junior rep teams.

It’s actually quite amazing Luai stuck around here behind Maloney so long, he could’ve been playing FG elsewhere easily.

We were idiots for signing Maloney in the 1st place TBH. I know the usual spin we heard 'Maloney taught them both x,y & z' Blah Blah Blah. In reality he held back the development of both Nathan and Romey, and ultimately the team as well.
 

betcats

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I suppose you could see why Luai would’ve grabbed more attention, he’s flashy to Nathan’s more by the numbers approach.

I really hope we see Luai do more kicking. Not that Nathan isn’t a great kicker, but spreading it out more will keep the defence guessing. Might also give Nathan an opportunity to run the ball a bit more if the defence don’t know who to lock down.

He is more flashy for sure and also has better vision and ball playing skills than Nath. He’s just a more natural talent with those skills and his footwork.

I thought Luai did a fair bit of kicking of last season. Happy for him to do more but I think Nathan is still going to be the main kicker from down field but i also think the partnership will continue to develop in terms of Luai having more of a voice, it was his first full year last year.
 
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MugaB

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We were idiots for signing Maloney in the 1st place TBH. I know the usual spin we heard 'Maloney taught them both x,y & z' Blah Blah Blah. In reality he held back the development of both Nathan and Romey, and ultimately the team as well.
I think it was one of the best decisions the club has ever made, his signing gave us a bit of weight and apart from Maloneys small frame and getting run over by oppositions 2nd rowers, he was still a great buy, i feel his lay back rat bag nature probably got the group gelled in a more authentic way, if the moylan swap never happened, i dare say Romy might still be behind him and the team would be top 6-8 still.
We needed to go another level, moylan would not lead us there, and hook probably got lazy, we got there coz the small rat bag dragged us into finals, by copping hits and reaching for the extra metres that only maloney could do, yes im glad he is happy in france and not a defensive liability anymore, but he had great timing and smart ball player to give us that edge we normally wouldn't have, now we have a new CEO in Romy, he'll take on all that responsibility, and can tackle those opposition backrowers, where Moylan is still having the Temora Martin's of the league leaving footprints on his chest as they run by
 

franklin2323

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I suppose you could see why Luai would’ve grabbed more attention, he’s flashy to Nathan’s more by the numbers approach.

I really hope we see Luai do more kicking. Not that Nathan isn’t a great kicker, but spreading it out more will keep the defence guessing. Might also give Nathan an opportunity to run the ball a bit more if the defence don’t know who to lock down.

That is part of the evolving we can do. How much the side evolves is key
 

franklin2323

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The two big questions for the season are

1. Will the prop rotation hold up?

2. Do we have enough experience in the lineup?

Other than that the squad is in very good shape, well rounded and good depth.

On these

1. depends on how the new rules kick in. Benji played as running forward. Cowboys have 2 hookers on their bench. If smaller is key then we are well positioned

2. Last year helped but guys like Edwards have played plenty of finals despite their age.

Look at the Storm on Thursday they played a likely Top 4 side their bench experience was:

5 games
0 games
19 games
34 games

If the senior guys stand up then we are fine
 

betcats

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Bennett moved Murray to the edge to get benji on at lock. Either Murray wasn’t moving the ball well enough at lock or Bennett wanted him running the ball more but either way it shows just how much the game has changed the last few years when you have benji playing lock for 60 minutes against the storm. He did the passing well but he provides no hit up metres at all but the passing in middle has become so important now Bennett accepted losing out on metres and defensive strength in the middle just to have another ball player on the field.
 

WestyLife

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Bennett moved Murray to the edge to get benji on at lock. Either Murray wasn’t moving the ball well enough at lock or Bennett wanted him running the ball more but either way it shows just how much the game has changed the last few years when you have benji playing lock for 60 minutes against the storm. He did the passing well but he provides no hit up metres at all but the passing in middle has become so important now Bennett accepted losing out on metres and defensive strength in the middle just to have another ball player on the field.

Yeah the passing lock is now officially mainstream thanks to Yeo.
 

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