2021 SF 2 Sat - Penrith 8-6 Parramatta @ BB Print

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I agree with this 100%. If the refs aren’t going to call things on the field (because they aren’t subject to the same scrutiny during the flow of the game) you are always going to get people lying down.

Same thing with the Moses obstruction in the first half. Its an infringement and should be a penalty, but if you try to stay on your feet and make that tackle (which Moses could have done) then the bunker said it didn’t impact play and play on. So of course you fall over.

If the NRL wants players to not lay down, they should referee the rules and not the outcomes.

Good point and the cowbell replaces a legitimate penalty which both of these halfbacks would have made the most of to compose their otherwise flat attack.

 

[Sans Souci Saint]

Hey SSS, is Moylan's pub around the corner from the bridge at Sans still there?

Bruzz, No.

The Endeavour weighed anchor and f**ked off too. Said they were going to have a look around Sydney Cove.

 

[hineyrulz]

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Strong performance from the Penrith Kleins.

A shame it’s not straight sets, they get flogged next week though. Two tries in the finals series and both from kicks.

 

[Smug Panther]

Strong performance from the Penrith Kleins.

A shame it’s not straight sets, they get flogged next week though. Two tries in the finals series and both from kicks.

Ok Mary

 

[big hit!]

The cold hard facts are this Arthur and Parra fans:

Your 3rd string acting half made some critical errors and cost the Eels the game. Several mistakes at the ruck and the decision to throw to Paulo with 40 seconds to go in that position with the game on the line is all on Ray. Paulo and the other 11 Parra players all expected the ball to go out the back, rather than another wasteful block play he initiated on the previous 2 tackles.

Mahony or Lussick in the game and Parra would’ve won this match.

 

[big hit!]

Penrith look cooked unfortunately. A shell of what they were pre origin. I know crazy to say that considering they’re in another prelim but they’re not the juggernaut they were this time last year. Struggling to score points they were putting up for fun.

I hope for the spectacle that they’re able to back up this week as it could get ugly v Melbourne.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

The trainer wanted the game stopped the second he realised Parramatta had momentum in the play the ball. It was more a tactic rather than an interchange stuff up.

It was purely to get a stoppage in the game to get some control back in the play the ball, is he asking for a stoppage if Penrith have the ball? I would almost be certain the answer to that is no

The NRL can't win because teams will always try to push the rules to gain an advantage

I agree that this rule is a blight on the game, but all teams do it. In the first half, Blake gets tackled over the sideline in the corner and ends up 3 metres outside the field of play. The ball is transferred to the Panthers nad moved to the centre of the field (takes about 10-15 secs). Three tackles later when the Panthers get on a roll, the trainer asks for play to be stopped. Blake limps down the sideline.

All teams do this. The Panthers one is being talked about because we won and the time of the game it happened in, but all teams are equally cynical in how they utilise this advantage that has been handed to them under the guise of protecting players.

 

[84 Baby]

I agree that this rule is a blight on the game, but all teams do it. In the first half, Blake gets tackled over the sideline in the corner and ends up 3 metres outside the field of play. The ball is transferred to the Panthers nad moved to the centre of the field (takes about 10-15 secs). Three tackles later when the Panthers get on a roll, the trainer asks for play to be stopped. Blake limps down the sideline.

All teams do this. The Panthers one is being talked about because we won and the time of the game it happened in, but all teams are equally cynical in how they utilise this advantage that has been handed to them under the guise of protecting players.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, there’s a big difference in stopping the play when the opposition are just doing bog standard hit ups in their own half, and stopping the play when the opposition is in the attacking flow inside your 10m

 

[Westernised Panther]

Going to give me great pleasure to knock the panthers out
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See you next year sunshine.

0/3 against Penrith in 2021

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, there’s a big difference in stopping the play when the opposition are just doing bog standard hit ups in their own half, and stopping the play when the opposition is in the attacking flow inside your 10m

I think it goes to the point of trying to make moral judgements on the run. In the Kenny situation, Parra was obviously more on the attack. But it was instantaneous; the game was asked to be stopped straight away. With the Waqa situation, yes Penrith was not attacking but the request only happened after a tackles when Penrith had started to make some metres. Which one was worse is a matter of opinion and asking a trainer to make judgements on when it is acceptable to ask to stop and when it is not is asking for trouble.

 

[gerg]

Remember when that fkn idiot used to be on Fox? He used to be blatent about his support for Canberra, and against the Panthers in any week.

Thankfully Fox continues to employ the saltiest merkin in the universe - Greg 'Brandy' Alexander.

 

[forby]

And Blake was already off the field!

 

[84 Baby]

I think it goes to the point of trying to make moral judgements on the run. In the Kent situation, Parra was obviously more on the attack. But it was instantaneous; the game was asked to be stopped straight away. With the Waqa situation, yes Penrith was not attacking but the request only happened after a tackles when Penrith had started to make some metres. Which one was worse is a matter of opinion and asking a trainer to make judgements on when it is acceptable to ask to stop and when it is not is asking for trouble.

It’s been clear for years that those judgments shouldn’t be made by a club trainer. The NRL themselves hire trainers to work with the referees. How difficult would it be to chuck one of them on the sideline to just make decisions on if play should be stopped?

 

[ColdWetPanther]

It’s been clear for years that those judgments shouldn’t be made by a club trainer. The NRL themselves hire trainers to work with the referees. How difficult would it be to chuck one of them on the sideline to just make decisions on if play should be stopped?

Agree this should be taken out of the clubs hands.

 

[hineyrulz]

Good to see my man Bea finally criticising the refereeing in the presser it’s only taken 8 years. Well done son!!

 

[BranVan3000]

It’s been clear for years that those judgments shouldn’t be made by a club trainer. The NRL themselves hire trainers to work with the referees. How difficult would it be to chuck one of them on the sideline to just make decisions on if play should be stopped?

Seriously

Trainers should not be allowed on the field at all except after try at best

Any medical examinations needed should be from somebody hired by the NRL

I cant think of any other sport that allows so much interference to come from outside the 13 players on field. There were a few years where trainers were basically acting like second halfbacks on the field

 

[84 Baby]

Agree this should be taken out of the clubs hands.

Good so you agree you should be stripped of last nights game and we should play next week. Make it so, Mr V’landys.

 

[Maximus]

Every couple of weeks the game gets stopped because a player is down 50m behind the play. The only reason this one is controversial is because hating Penrith has become the popular opinion nowadays.

As for the supposed controversy of the interchange card used to take him off, it's no different to when Munster comes off for 15 secs and then sent straight back out there. Do you think they would be doing that if it meant they had to use an interchange to bring him back on? No, they get a free interchange to bring him back on as well. TPJ went off using a free interchange, so he was allowed back on with one.

Likewise with Sorensen staying down. The same people criticising him are the people who thought Wallace was right to stay down when Lodge hit him high. And before anyone suggests the Sorensen one was used to abuse HIA rules, he had been on the field for 7 mins. He didn't need to be taken off.

 

[martielang]

Tonight's game confirmed what we all already knew, in the big games when the result actually matters they are afraid to make the big calls

Moses was held back after Ferguson kicked the ball down field, it's been 10 in the bin all season, not tonight.

It was def a penalty. You could probably pick out 10 penalties/ref errors for each team that don’t get called every game.

Nikores high shots been a binning all season too… see it’s easy to do.