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2022 R23 Thu - South Sydney 22-26 Penrith @ Accor

Round 23: South Sydney v Penrith

  • South Sydney Rabbitohs

    Votes: 6 35.3%
  • Penrith Panthers

    Votes: 10 58.8%
  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .

yobbo84

First Grade
Messages
7,044
I really find games like last night hard to stomach. Once again we score the most beautiful Rugby League tries and lose to a team that just scraps, fights and scores opportunistic tries. This is not a slight on Penrith.

The Panthers dominated a single season, lost a GF, and then realised they played 'too nice', got a new wrestling coach and turned themselves into the new Storm. We have been 'almost good enough' for nigh on 5 years and have done nothing to improve our defensive resolve. Why are we not trying to find that extra 5% to get us a premiership? We are easily the best attacking side in the NRL, which is great, but why are we settling for middle-of-the-road defence? Bloody frustrating as a Souths supporter.
 

martielang

Bench
Messages
3,137
I really find games like last night hard to stomach. Once again we score the most beautiful Rugby League tries and lose to a team that just scraps, fights and scores opportunistic tries. This is not a slight on Penrith.

The Panthers dominated a single season, lost a GF, and then realised they played 'too nice', got a new wrestling coach and turned themselves into the new Storm. We have been 'almost good enough' for nigh on 5 years and have done nothing to improve our defensive resolve. Why are we not trying to find that extra 5% to get us a premiership? We are easily the best attacking side in the NRL, which is great, but why are we settling for middle-of-the-road defence? Bloody frustrating as a Souths supporter.

You got some pretty big decisions coming up re; cook, walker and Mitchell as well. You either got to go all in and hope they find that next 5% needed in the next couple of years or go in a completely different direction.
 

yobbo84

First Grade
Messages
7,044
You got some pretty big decisions coming up re; cook, walker and Mitchell as well. You either got to go all in and hope they find that next 5% needed in the next couple of years or go in a completely different direction.
I think it's our structures more than our players. We can score enough points to beat anyone. 22 points should have been enough to defeat Penrith without your halves. We're just a middle-of-the-road defensive team and it's annoying.
 

ColdWetPanther

Juniors
Messages
2,318
I think it's our structures more than our players. We can score enough points to beat anyone. 22 points should have been enough to defeat Penrith without your halves. We're just a middle-of-the-road defensive team and it's annoying.
I think if you want to improve your defensive resolve that needs to start at the back; Mitchell isn’t fit enough to do what a Gutho/Teddy/Paps/ Edwards do for the best defensive sides.
Because he is so good with the ball on tackles 3-6, I wonder if Souths should try something a bit different; play Mitchell at centre in defence, and then swap him to fullback when they have the ball.

Im not sure just giving him a roving commission from centre in attack would de the job, because the Souths attack seems balanced and structured to me, with Latrell’s ability to inject providing it the punch.
 

ColdWetPanther

Juniors
Messages
2,318
Nothing shameful in getting that close to the reigning premiers who will be at the very least minor premiers this year. We're as close as any of the 2-8 teams to them. I still think if we get to the big dance and play them we have a strong chance simply through the fact that we'd be hungrier for a premiership than they would be.
Surely though the lack of hunger showed last night by your team is a big concern though. Win and you could push for top 4, lose and there is a slight but realistic chance you miss the finals.

And you weren’t up for the fight right from the start. Cody and Latrell went missing for much of the second half.

Parra and Melbourne are the closest to Penrith because they are mentally strong; they don’t give up and grind away and it gets to 20 minutes left in the game and they are still in it.
 

chunk

Juniors
Messages
643
Panthers seem to get off their line faster and more consistently than any other team so the opposition find it hard to get momentum coming out of their half, they are so fit, they must be relentless at training. It seems they are offside all the time
 

gerg

Juniors
Messages
1,786
Panthers seem to get off their line faster and more consistently than any other team so the opposition find it hard to get momentum coming out of their half, they are so fit, they must be relentless at training. It seems they are offside all the time

They're just adopting the same tactics that the Storm and Roosters have had so much success with in the past decade. Push the boundaries with line speed and ruck domination. A referee isn't going to penalise you for doing it every tackle - but the key is being the fittest and strongest team in the comp so you can defend being penalised. The ref's are even less inclined to blow penalties in and around semi final time because apparently wrestling is more acceptable in finals footy?
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
Messages
33,560
Refs will always deny it but there absolutely is an implicit bias. It's a fact they don't watch the line closely, the 10 is not strictly enforced. And subconsciously they will see a top team rush in and it will feel like they are doing it because they're good. But if a less fancied team did the same it would be a ref's instinct to assume they're cheating the 10.
 

soc123_au

Moderator
Staff member
Messages
16,247
Refs will always deny it but there absolutely is an implicit bias. It's a fact they don't watch the line closely, the 10 is not strictly enforced. And subconsciously they will see a top team rush in and it will feel like they are doing it because they're good. But if a less fancied team did the same it would be a ref's instinct to assume they're cheating the 10.
You lot were gifted a comp in 2014 off the back of it. So yeah, it happens.
 

GongPanther

Referee
Messages
26,609
Nothing shameful in getting that close to the reigning premiers who will be at the very least minor premiers this year. We're as close as any of the 2-8 teams to them. I still think if we get to the big dance and play them we have a strong chance simply through the fact that we'd be hungrier for a premiership than they would be.
Sorry BM, after that performance you had V Eels last week, and going by form you should of wiped the floor with us, your team is as inconsistent as Parra. Your team also has ball security and self destructive tendencies.
 

Black Panther

Juniors
Messages
731
This is really sad and disturbing to read about -


No one deserves being treated like that. NO ONE!
Not good at all. Probably some 15 year olds trying to be tough behind a keyboard similar to what happened at Parra earlier in the year.
These blokes playing are out there trying their guts out every week, sometimes they have bad games. It’s only Footy,
people forget that.
 

GongPanther

Referee
Messages
26,609
We are easily the best attacking side in the NRL, which is great, but why are we settling for middle-of-the-road defence? Bloody frustrating as a Souths supporter.
Will review this if you guys end up in playing the Storm. They were in a brutal mood last night, so stock up on 44 gallon drums of axle grease.
 

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