2024 Crowd Watch

[jim_57]

Central Coast game next week is directly followed by a Newcastle home game. Pre-sales look average in CC, Knights look like they are on their way to another 25k+ or sellout. Clashing with Newcastle making it a harder sell for CC game?

 

[The_Wookie]

You idiot. The Tasmanian ground is going to cost 1.6 billion on latest estimates and nobody knows who’s funding it because Albo has guaranteed 250 million and the state under 400 million.

Latest estimates by who? Roland Browne wrote this on twitter a while back and hes so anti progress on the water front hed freak out about fire if someone invented it today. Someone has confused this with the 1.6 billion Optus Stadium cost. Not even the wildest estimate has it anywhere near this,

 

[jim_57]

I don’t mind the Sharks being at a smaller venue as a temporary measure while their stadium undergoes improvements.

But I just can’t get over how they actively
1) made their stadium worse
2) purposely reduced capacity with no strategy for growing it back
3) built the ground in a way that their main grandstand is forever locked into being tiny.

just defies logic

I’m sure the NRL would love to get the capacity back up a bit since they have the hotel next door. Even with the NRL in their corner getting funding for a privately owned ground is going to be a struggle.

 

[yakstorm]

Rabbitohs v Wests Tigers Central Coast game is trending better than Roosters v Bulldogs match this far out.

The weekend's results for both clubs isn't ideal, however it should still go close to selling out.

 

[Billythekid]

Gotta love the haters and how they lose their shit over something their opinion has absolutely no bearing over.

it is just so satisfying knowing none of their brain farts matter.

Go boys, ramble on

Literally nothing you or anyone else has ever posted on this forum has any bearing on anything. Hasn’t stopped you making 17K posts.

 

[yakstorm]

1) made their stadium worse
2) purposely reduced capacity with no strategy for growing it back
3) built the ground in a way that their main grandstand is forever locked into being tiny.

I'm not a Sharks fan & like many on this thread wish that their surrounding renovations hadn't taken so long & had included more significant work on the venue, but seriously the pile on is filled with some really incorrect statements.

Firstly the Sharks haven't made their stadium worse. The majority of the stadium is untouched, however as part of the work additional terracing has been/getting added to the family hill and a lot of the corporate & upper section in the Peter Burns Stand have been renovated.

Secondly, Shark Park will revert to its previous capacity once the work is complete. Because it is next to a construction site, as per state & federal laws, there has been a temporary reduction in the overall ground capacity. It's not that the ground can't hold more than 13,500 even now, it's just the club will be fined if they go over that. Their strategy for getting back to their previous capacity is to finish construction work.

Once everything is done, the legal capacity for the ground will return to 20,147. Whether they can draw more than the 18,985 they had in 2019 is debatable, but the ground will hold more than Leichhardt, Campbelltown, Brookvale and Kogarah, and be comparable to WIN & Belmore.

Finally, there is still room at Shark Park to expand if they wish to. The ET Stand could easily be replaced with something that could stretch the full width of the ground.



There is also the terracing going in front of the shopping centre & apartments on the other side. I'm not sure who gets to commercialise the space on top of the centre & apartments, which have great views of the fields, but maybe someone else closer to the club can provide those insights.



Encouragingly the Quest Apartments & Shops are now open and supposedly the Leagues Club is getting close to completion. Whilst it is unlikely to help this year, it should mean that from 2025 the Sharks are in a position to draw bigger crowds.

Hopefully off the back of the work done & their form, the club can become a bit like Manly and consistently fill the ground out.

 

[Fangs]

Brookvale vs Shark Park.

I have been to both within the last 12 months. Brookvale like Leichhardt is just in total disrepair with some of its features and needs funding.

Shark Park. The leagues club being shut isn't good at all and the apartments are an absolute eyesore. Its a fairly ugly ground and I hope they just blow it up tbh. Make a restaurant square or park for the kids and find some lot of land to start again (If such land exists in Cronulla).

 

[Vlad59]

Double post

 

[Vlad59]

Latest estimates by who? Roland Browne wrote this on twitter a while back and hes so anti progress on the water front hed freak out about fire if someone invented it today. Someone has confused this with the 1.6 billion Optus Stadium cost. Not even the wildest estimate has it anywhere near this,

Former suns CEO stated on a podcast recently the ground will cost 1.4 to 1.6 billion. He’s been involved in other stadium builds and stated the costs for the Hobart stadium would be in that range. He also stated it’s no chance of being ready by 2030. 1.6 billion and beyond are estimates put to a committee looking at the stadium in state parliament by a number of I’d suggest your bias towards afl and this ground getting built taints your opinion. A lot.

 

[Vlad59]

I'm not a Sharks fan & like many on this thread wish that their surrounding renovations hadn't taken so long & had included more significant work on the venue, but seriously the pile on is filled with some really incorrect statements.

Firstly the Sharks haven't made their stadium worse. The majority of the stadium is untouched, however as part of the work additional terracing has been/getting added to the family hill and a lot of the corporate & upper section in the Peter Burns Stand have been renovated.

Secondly, Shark Park will revert to its previous capacity once the work is complete. Because it is next to a construction site, as per state & federal laws, there has been a temporary reduction in the overall ground capacity. It's not that the ground can't hold more than 13,500 even now, it's just the club will be fined if they go over that. Their strategy for getting back to their previous capacity is to finish construction work.

Once everything is done, the legal capacity for the ground will return to 20,147. Whether they can draw more than the 18,985 they had in 2019 is debatable, but the ground will hold more than Leichhardt, Campbelltown, Brookvale and Kogarah, and be comparable to WIN & Belmore.

Finally, there is still room at Shark Park to expand if they wish to. The ET Stand could easily be replaced with something that could stretch the full width of the ground.

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There is also the terracing going in front of the shopping centre & apartments on the other side. I'm not sure who gets to commercialise the space on top of the centre & apartments, which have great views of the fields, but maybe someone else closer to the club can provide those insights.

View attachment 91053

Encouragingly the Quest Apartments & Shops are now open and supposedly the Leagues Club is getting close to completion. Whilst it is unlikely to help this year, it should mean that from 2025 the Sharks are in a position to draw bigger crowds.

Hopefully off the back of the work done & their form, the club can become a bit like Manly and consistently fill the ground out.

A sensible logical post. Thank you

 

[Wb1234]

Dogs vs Dragons week one finals at Accor would definitely draw more than 50k if their fans were deadset serious. First time making finals since 2016 & 2018 for both teams, both in decent form, they have the rivalry, showing signs of not being complete basket cases. Even I as a neutral would go for the atmosphere alone.

Doubt it would get that much

red v fanbase isn’t on board the team yet

 

[Wb1234]

I'm not a Sharks fan & like many on this thread wish that their surrounding renovations hadn't taken so long & had included more significant work on the venue, but seriously the pile on is filled with some really incorrect statements.

Firstly the Sharks haven't made their stadium worse. The majority of the stadium is untouched, however as part of the work additional terracing has been/getting added to the family hill and a lot of the corporate & upper section in the Peter Burns Stand have been renovated.

Secondly, Shark Park will revert to its previous capacity once the work is complete. Because it is next to a construction site, as per state & federal laws, there has been a temporary reduction in the overall ground capacity. It's not that the ground can't hold more than 13,500 even now, it's just the club will be fined if they go over that. Their strategy for getting back to their previous capacity is to finish construction work.

Once everything is done, the legal capacity for the ground will return to 20,147. Whether they can draw more than the 18,985 they had in 2019 is debatable, but the ground will hold more than Leichhardt, Campbelltown, Brookvale and Kogarah, and be comparable to WIN & Belmore.

Finally, there is still room at Shark Park to expand if they wish to. The ET Stand could easily be replaced with something that could stretch the full width of the ground.

View attachment 91052

There is also the terracing going in front of the shopping centre & apartments on the other side. I'm not sure who gets to commercialise the space on top of the centre & apartments, which have great views of the fields, but maybe someone else closer to the club can provide those insights.

View attachment 91053

Encouragingly the Quest Apartments & Shops are now open and supposedly the Leagues Club is getting close to completion. Whilst it is unlikely to help this year, it should mean that from 2025 the Sharks are in a position to draw bigger crowds.

Hopefully off the back of the work done & their form, the club can become a bit like Manly and consistently fill the ground out.

Sharks are moving out with their leagues club adjoining

and with the arlc buying the hotel they don’t want them moving either

shark park will end up getting done up to 20k it’s not impossible

 

[Miller was a legend]

Literally nothing you or anyone else has ever posted on this forum has any bearing on anything. Hasn’t stopped you making 17K posts.

Certainly happy we are on the same page Billy.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Doubt it would get that much

red v fanbase isn’t on board the team yet

They played a Week 1 final at Accor in 2015 and it drew 33K. I imagine they may pull up to 40K if they meet this year.

If we ever get a prelim between the 2 I think they'd sell out Accor.

 

[Wb1234]

They played a Week 1 final at Accor in 2015 and it drew 33K. I imagine they may pull up to 40K if they meet this year.

If we ever get a prelim between the 2 I think they'd sell out Accor.

Dogs eels got over 70k for a prelim didn’t it

 

[Vee]

I'm not a Sharks fan & like many on this thread wish that their surrounding renovations hadn't taken so long & had included more significant work on the venue, but seriously the pile on is filled with some really incorrect statements.

Firstly the Sharks haven't made their stadium worse. The majority of the stadium is untouched, however as part of the work additional terracing has been/getting added to the family hill and a lot of the corporate & upper section in the Peter Burns Stand have been renovated.

Secondly, Shark Park will revert to its previous capacity once the work is complete. Because it is next to a construction site, as per state & federal laws, there has been a temporary reduction in the overall ground capacity. It's not that the ground can't hold more than 13,500 even now, it's just the club will be fined if they go over that. Their strategy for getting back to their previous capacity is to finish construction work.

Once everything is done, the legal capacity for the ground will return to 20,147. Whether they can draw more than the 18,985 they had in 2019 is debatable, but the ground will hold more than Leichhardt, Campbelltown, Brookvale and Kogarah, and be comparable to WIN & Belmore.

Finally, there is still room at Shark Park to expand if they wish to. The ET Stand could easily be replaced with something that could stretch the full width of the ground.

View attachment 91052

There is also the terracing going in front of the shopping centre & apartments on the other side. I'm not sure who gets to commercialise the space on top of the centre & apartments, which have great views of the fields, but maybe someone else closer to the club can provide those insights.

View attachment 91053

Encouragingly the Quest Apartments & Shops are now open and supposedly the Leagues Club is getting close to completion. Whilst it is unlikely to help this year, it should mean that from 2025 the Sharks are in a position to draw bigger crowds.

Hopefully off the back of the work done & their form, the club can become a bit like Manly and consistently fill the ground out.

Facts? Get out, you're not welcome here!

 

[jim_57]

I'm not a Sharks fan & like many on this thread wish that their surrounding renovations hadn't taken so long & had included more significant work on the venue, but seriously the pile on is filled with some really incorrect statements.

Firstly the Sharks haven't made their stadium worse. The majority of the stadium is untouched, however as part of the work additional terracing has been/getting added to the family hill and a lot of the corporate & upper section in the Peter Burns Stand have been renovated.

Secondly, Shark Park will revert to its previous capacity once the work is complete. Because it is next to a construction site, as per state & federal laws, there has been a temporary reduction in the overall ground capacity. It's not that the ground can't hold more than 13,500 even now, it's just the club will be fined if they go over that. Their strategy for getting back to their previous capacity is to finish construction work.

Once everything is done, the legal capacity for the ground will return to 20,147. Whether they can draw more than the 18,985 they had in 2019 is debatable, but the ground will hold more than Leichhardt, Campbelltown, Brookvale and Kogarah, and be comparable to WIN & Belmore.

Finally, there is still room at Shark Park to expand if they wish to. The ET Stand could easily be replaced with something that could stretch the full width of the ground.

View attachment 91052

There is also the terracing going in front of the shopping centre & apartments on the other side. I'm not sure who gets to commercialise the space on top of the centre & apartments, which have great views of the fields, but maybe someone else closer to the club can provide those insights.

View attachment 91053

Encouragingly the Quest Apartments & Shops are now open and supposedly the Leagues Club is getting close to completion. Whilst it is unlikely to help this year, it should mean that from 2025 the Sharks are in a position to draw bigger crowds.

Hopefully off the back of the work done & their form, the club can become a bit like Manly and consistently fill the ground out.

Thanks for the in-depth info, first time I’ve seen a comprehensive answer as to what happens going forward.

If they can get it back to 18-20k capacity next year that would be a huge improvement. Then as you suggest a new/extended Western stand should be the next target to get capacity in to the low-mid 20s. A new larger Southern stand doesn’t look impossible either although the road is pretty close.

 

[yakstorm]

A new larger Southern stand doesn’t look impossible either although the road is pretty close.

There is room to move, both closer to the ingoals & up. As you can see the current build doesn’t maximise the current available space, with there still being some if the old south hill in front of the stand.


In terms of going closer to the road, this plan was approved prior to the funding for the centre of excellence being taken away. This included additional seating, high performance facilities and offices.



I imagine if they could get the funding, they could get something similar approved again.

Personally if I was the club, I'd be looking at expanding the ET Stand as the priority and even include things like high performance in there, though I can appreciate that big grandstands are expensive & the club has to balance its debt.

 

[t-ba]

We suck balls and won't win shit but when we're on it looks so f**king good.

 

[Jamberoo]

Former suns CEO stated on a podcast recently the ground will cost 1.4 to 1.6 billion. He’s been involved in other stadium builds and stated the costs for the Hobart stadium would be in that range. He also stated it’s no chance of being ready by 2030. 1.6 billion and beyond are estimates put to a committee looking at the stadium in state parliament by a number of I’d suggest your bias towards afl and this ground getting built taints your opinion. A lot.

Andrew Travis? Who now works at a ticketing company? Well if someone who used to work in AFL Queensland 10 years ago says so, it must be true. Ignore the study by the quantity surveyors released this month that it can be built on budget.