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2026 Challenge Cup Discussion

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The amateur and smaller prof clubs asked for this as a pay day to help them out.

Shouldn’t matter. Sentiment stinks out this sport here. It should be business decisions that trump it all and creating a profitable sport that washes its own face and is around in 50 years in a professional state. Broadcasters don’t care for it, sponsors don’t care for it and it’s a format that addresses issues for one round but not the remaining 4-5 rounds.
 

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Shouldn’t matter. Sentiment stinks out this sport here. It should be business decisions that trump it all and creating a profitable sport that washes its own face and is around in 50 years in a professional state. Broadcasters don’t care for it, sponsors don’t care for it and it’s a format that addresses issues for one round but not the remaining 4-5 rounds.
shouldn't matter? lol
Lock lane get a massive pay day and memories of a lifetime. Rovers get a pre season run out. Only one complaining is you!
 

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shouldn't matter? lol
Lock lane get a massive pay day and memories of a lifetime. Rovers get a pre season run out. Only one complaining is you!

No, it shouldn’t matter. Some amateurs getting physically battered individually and collectively gives some nice memories but waters down the cup and offers nothing to the competition or sport from a commercial perspective. It’s no surprise that a game involving an amateur side and a Super League big hitter hasn’t been picked for the television for the second year on the spin but games involving squads that are relatively close in standing have been.

Some amateurs getting a nice day out doesn’t pay the bills. Trying to keep young English talent in Super League over the NRL cannot be paid in “remember that time Hull KR stuck 110 on some amateurs, those amateurs had a good day out”, it doesn’t pay for marketing or pushing the sport in peoples faces, either. I’m sorry but we have to look at these things from a business standpoint and not a sentimental aspect, which is rife in the game here. We’ve spent quite literally millions on clubs in the summer era as a sport and the ROI is 0. We’re doing that with the cup so some people get a nice day. Community clubs thriving because people are watching a Challenge Cup competition where people are attending, people are engaged and the onfield product is excellent will always outweigh some lads getting a nice day out.
 

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No, it shouldn’t matter. Some amateurs getting physically battered individually and collectively gives some nice memories but waters down the cup and offers nothing to the competition or sport from a commercial perspective. It’s no surprise that a game involving an amateur side and a Super League big hitter hasn’t been picked for the television for the second year on the spin but games involving squads that are relatively close in standing have been.

Some amateurs getting a nice day out doesn’t pay the bills. Trying to keep young English talent in Super League over the NRL cannot be paid in “remember that time Hull KR stuck 110 on some amateurs, those amateurs had a good day out”, it doesn’t pay for marketing or pushing the sport in peoples faces, either. I’m sorry but we have to look at these things from a business standpoint and not a sentimental aspect, which is rife in the game here. We’ve spent quite literally millions on clubs in the summer era as a sport and the ROI is 0. We’re doing that with the cup so some people get a nice day. Community clubs thriving because people are watching a Challenge Cup competition where people are attending, people are engaged and the onfield product is excellent will always outweigh some lads getting a nice day out.
Jesus Christ you're still on with miserable rubbish, complaining RL isn't run exactly as you'd have it.

Newsflash, Challenge Cup ain't perfect but short of scrapping it, there's no perfect format. As has been observed, we don't have the same type of opportunities due to a lack of pro and semi-pro clubs like soccer does. That's understood.

Beyond that, if there was no interest, no will and no desire to participate, the community clubs wouldn't do so.

The fact that clubs dropped out and had willing replacements is testament to the fact that there are plenty of community clubs who want the exposure, want the opportunity for a pay day etc.

If nothing else, the Cup brings eyes to the sport in local communities it might not otherwise get and grows the game through grassroots.

I don't know that it precludes anything in the space of the elite level or business level being cheapened
 

Taking The Two

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Jesus Christ you're still on with miserable rubbish, complaining RL isn't run exactly as you'd have it.

Newsflash, Challenge Cup ain't perfect but short of scrapping it, there's no perfect format. As has been observed, we don't have the same type of opportunities due to a lack of pro and semi-pro clubs like soccer does. That's understood.

Beyond that, if there was no interest, no will and no desire to participate, the community clubs wouldn't do so.

The fact that clubs dropped out and had willing replacements is testament to the fact that there are plenty of community clubs who want the exposure, want the opportunity for a pay day etc.

If nothing else, the Cup brings eyes to the sport in local communities it might not otherwise get and grows the game through grassroots.

I don't know that it precludes anything in the space of the elite level or business level being cheapened

That’s a lot of words to say nothing at all.
 

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That’s a lot of words to say nothing at all.
I could say the same for your diatribe earlier.

The simple fact is, if these community clubs wanted no part of the Cup, they wouldn't enter it.

Complaining they're part of it is just a very odd thing to do when they're willing participants.

Yeah, the format isn't ideal. They could tweak it, but nothing's perfect. I'm not quite sure what you expect. Scrap the whole thing, all 120+ years of history because you're apparently only now worried about the welfare of amateur athletes?
 

Taking The Two

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I could say the same for your diatribe earlier.

The simple fact is, if these community clubs wanted no part of the Cup, they wouldn't enter it.

Complaining they're part of it is just a very odd thing to do when they're willing participants.

Yeah, the format isn't ideal. They could tweak it, but nothing's perfect. I'm not quite sure what you expect. Scrap the whole thing, all 120+ years of history because you're apparently only now worried about the welfare of amateur athletes?

More outrage from someone who doesn’t understand the game here. Keep going soft arse.
 

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Hull KR tie to secure Lock Lane's future and leave lasting legacy, says chairman​


Chairman Mick Wildey says Lock Lane's Challenge Cup clash with holders Hull KR is the biggest night in the club's history – one that will secure their short-term future and leave a lasting legacy.
The part-timers will fulfil their work commitments on Friday before heading to Craven Park, a venue switch that maximises the benefits for the Castleford-based amateur side.
While Lock Lane have a history of high-profile ties, nothing compares to a date with the Super League champions and treble winners.

"It is quite expensive to run, especially an open-age side with all the travel. It takes a lot to raise the funds to cover all our expenses.

"We are really lucky with the sponsors we do have so we can compete at the level we do. The good thing about this game is being able to bring those sponsors with us and reward them.
"It just gives us a buffer. We have got a good set-up but are pretty desperate for some new floodlights. Some of this might go towards upgrading them.

"We need to get something for the club that's going to see us all out. When they look back, they can say the Hull KR game paid for it."

Lock Lane were originally drawn at home but logistical challenges left the National Conference League club searching for an alternative venue.
The players turned down the chance to play at Castleford Tigers for an opportunity to sample Craven Park under the lights.
"We had a choice of venues," explained Wildey.
"Castleford Tigers really wanted us to host the game down there. Craig Jeffels, the commercial director, is a former Lock Lane player and said they'd match the finances we'd get from playing at Hull KR.

"I put it to the players and to a man, they said they wanted to go to Hull KR. I think they're all Erasure fans so you might see them dancing along to ‘A Little Respect’!"
Lock Lane find themselves in exalted company this month, facing the Robins just before Willie Peters' side tackle Brisbane Broncos in the World Club Challenge.
Wildey views the "unbelievable" opportunity as a reward for the community outfit, who have a rich history of producing players.
"It still hasn't sunk in," he said. "We've all been smiling ever since we secured the tie.

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"It's the biggest game in our history. Some of the older lads played against Wigan and Huddersfield. We played against Castleford more recently.
"But this has to be the biggest – they're the best team in Super League right now. Two weeks after they play us, they play Brisbane Broncos. It's just crazy. It's immense for us.
"One thing I would say, though, is that community clubs like Lock Lane give a lot to rugby league. In Brad Singleton's recent testimonial, there were 12 former Lock Lane juniors between the Cas and Leeds teams.
"Every community club deserves a game like this."

 

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Third Round kicks off tonight - Town v Saints will be streamed live on The Sportsman


Same channel will then stream Widnes-Leeds Saturday, while BBC has the London-Bradford Sunday clash.
 

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Friday 6 February

Huddersfield 52 (T. Lolohea 2, T. Burgess, G. Flanagan Jr, J. Gagai, S. Halsall, A. O'Donnell, C. Patolo, T. Powell, A. Swift tries; G. Flanagan Jr 4, O. Russell 2 goals) defeated Hunslet 6 (B. Aldridge try; B. Jowitt goal) at South Leeds Stadium.

Warrington 34 (C. Taylor-Wray 2, A. Hopoate, T. King, T. Rhodes, J. Thewlis tries; M. Sneyd 5 goals) defeated Sheffield 6 (K. Morgan try; J. Lilley goal) at Halliwell Jones Stadium.

St Helens 98 (K. Feldt 3, T. Sailor 3, J. Welsby 3, J. Hastings 2, D. Cross, G. Delaney, D. Klemmer, A. Walmsley, M. Whitley, S. Wright tries; J. Hastings 15 goals) defeated Workington 2 (J. Carter goal) at Fibrus Community Stadium.
Kickoff: 7:30 PM. Halftime: St Helens 52-2. Referee: Liam Rush. Crowd: 4,129.

Hull KR 104 (J. Broadbent 3, H. Horne 3, J. Charles 2, T. Davies 2, N. Booth, J. Brown, O. Gildart, K. Lawton, E. Minchella, A. Mourgue, S. Sue, T. Whitehead tries; R. Martin 16 goals) defeated Lock Lane 0 at Sewell Group Craven Park.

Hull FC 60 (D. Litten 3, C. Cust 2, J. Arthur, Y. Aydin, H. Barron, J. Batchelor, A. Bourouh, A. Romano tries; Z. Hardaker 8 goals) defeated Salford 0 at CorpAcq Stadium.

 

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Workington Town 2-98 St Helens

Saints scored lots of tries, Workington didn’t score any. It was a game in which you can take little away from, barring players getting minutes. The only real talking point is whether Matty Lees’ injury that forced him off in the first half keeps him out of round one at Warrington.
 
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Hull kr break their top score record. 104-0.
very impressive on a miserable freezing cold and wet night.
 

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Leeds beat widnes 25-12 in an very entertaining game, Widnes took it to the rhinos all game.
 

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Nothing to be proud of beating up a 4th tier group of amateurs.
Can only play what’s in front of you, and play them we did. Highest ever score, most goals kicked in a game. Great memories for lock lane and some legacy funding that will help their club tremendously. On to bigger things for the mighty Robins,
 

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Castleford 14 (J. Stimson, B. Taaffe tries; T. Weaver 3 goals) defeated Doncaster 0 at Eco-Power Stadium.

Leeds 25 (G. Brown 2, D. Levi, R. Lumb tries; K. Watkins 4 goals; B. Croft field goal) defeated Widnes 12 (M. Butt 2 tries; J. Abdull 2 goals) at DCBL Stadium.

York 32 (N. Williams 2, J. Dee, O. Field, J. Martin, T. Mata'afa, P. Vaughan tries; L. Harris, N. Williams goals) defeated Barrow 6 (L. Cresswell try; B. Walker goal) at Northern Competitions Stadium.

Leigh 60 (J. Charnley 2, E. Ipape 2, L. Lam 2, J. Alick, A. Badrock, K. Brand, F. Halton, O. Trout tries; A. Cook 8 goals) defeated North Wales 6 (G. Eden try; J. Gibson goal) at Eirias Stadium.
 

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Can only play what’s in front of you, and play them we did. Highest ever score, most goals kicked in a game. Great memories for lock lane and some legacy funding that will help their club tremendously. On to bigger things for the mighty Robins,
Boasting like you've swept the world over this win is laughable. Great memories of having 100 put on them too.
 
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