26 June expansion meeting (Predictions?)

[Vlad59]

It only has 8k seats and a current capacity of 10k. Perth will make double or triple $ playing in Perth.

The main advantage for Perth of partnering with Bears is away crowds (and members) in Sydney. This benefits the team by having some crowd support to get behind them, but most importantly it benefits the Sydney clubs by having an extra couple of thousand Bears fans at games v Perth. It mean that games v Manly will be a sellout rather than their smallest of the season. Fans will come out of the woodwork, especially for finals. An extra $50k - $150k revenue per game v Perth is a good reason for PVL and the Sydney clubs to push for Perth Bears.

By way of example, the Swans/Lions away crowds in Melbourne are 10k & 5k higher than the average of the other six non Victorian AFL teams. So surely the Bears could bring 1k - 5k to games (depending on venue).

The Jets give Perth bid some leverage over Bears. Jets are not asking for anything, they are offering their branding and pathways. The positives of Bears is more fans. The negative is games at NSO.

Best outcome is a Perth offer to take on Bears branding and pathways, with ownership and all games in WA. Maybe one Bears seat on the board. This would be very similar to when Brisbane took the branding and some players from Fitzroy in 1996 - a takeover rather than a merger.

The major difference between the Bears and Swans/Lions is that the Bears have not played at the top level in 25 years, they play in front of two dogs and one man each weekend and their supporter base is now invisible in Sydney. I mean that’s a lovely romantic post you’ve written but , a bit like the Tasmanian stadium waffle you recently posted, you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Perth Red]

150 million ? That’s hardly a lot of money

Its not peanuts!

 

[Perth Red]

So what are they doing now? in hindsight … a Perth NRL team would never have survived through Covid ..so probably this timing is a blessing in disguise

6 years to bring 3 new clubs in is not long term planning lol

 

[BuffaloRules]

6 years to bring 3 new clubs in is not long term planning lol

It’s too long … should be 5 ….2026, 28 and 30

 

[Wb1234]

Just play all the fricken games in Perth FFS…

The Sydney fans can still get to half a dozen games

It is what it is

crying about it won’t change it

The amount of moaning on here about one nrl game is hilarious

what about when clubs take a home game to Darwin or Bathurst or magic ?

oh no let’s forget about those lol

 

[Wb1234]

Siri google cost of new 30k rectangular stadium Perth

 

[flippikat]

Not surprised, Abdo said beginning of year they wouldn't be making decision until October. I do find it interesting they have decided to go to open bids from anywhere. That I wasn't expecting.

Yeah, but the "we want bids for Brisbane 2" call last time was a great way to size-up all parties that had NRL ambitions in that specific market. That will be useful in the long term if (when?) Brisbane is revisited... which I suspect WILL happen in time.

It doesn't really work for (say) Perth - they're not going to go back there for a 2nd WA expansion team when they've added one already.

It MIGHT have been a strategy for NZ 2 if a non-Christchurch bid had emerged - they could've picked Christchurch but said quietly to a Welington bid "Work on x y, and z.. and you might be a chance next time".

However since all the bids are from Christchurch, it makes sense to leave it all in a general pool of bids.

 

[Vlad59]

It is what it is

crying about it won’t change it

The amount of moaning on here about one nrl game is hilarious

what about when clubs take a home game to Darwin or Bathurst or magic ?

oh no let’s forget about those lol

Sydney centric trash. You are full of it. It’s a Perth club. It plays in Perth ffs

 

[BuffaloRules]

It is what it is

crying about it won’t change it

The amount of moaning on here about one nrl game is hilarious

what about when clubs take a home game to Darwin or Bathurst or magic ?

oh no let’s forget about those lol

The only people moaning about it will be the North Sydney fans when they have to make the 20 minute train trip over to Allianz …and that’s if they are even lucky that Perth havent gone with the Jets by then

 

[Bukowski]

“Minor“ renovations …lol

who is gunna pay for that ?

The same people building WBs Cairns stadium

 

[Bukowski]

It only has 8k seats and a current capacity of 10k. Perth will make double or triple $ playing in Perth.

The main advantage for Perth of partnering with Bears is away crowds (and members) in Sydney. This benefits the team by having some crowd support to get behind them, but most importantly it benefits the Sydney clubs by having an extra couple of thousand Bears fans at games v Perth. It mean that games v Manly will be a sellout rather than their smallest of the season. Fans will come out of the woodwork, especially for finals. An extra $50k - $150k revenue per game v Perth is a good reason for PVL and the Sydney clubs to push for Perth Bears.

By way of example, the Swans/Lions away crowds in Melbourne are 10k & 5k higher than the average of the other six non Victorian AFL teams. So surely the Bears could bring 1k - 5k to games (depending on venue).

The Jets give Perth bid some leverage over Bears. Jets are not asking for anything, they are offering their branding and pathways. The positives of Bears is more fans. The negative is games at NSO.

Best outcome is a Perth offer to take on Bears branding and pathways, with ownership and all games in WA. Maybe one Bears seat on the board. This would be very similar to when Brisbane took the branding and some players from Fitzroy in 1996 - a takeover rather than a merger.

Have Sydney clubs said they want the bears? Phil Gould said it should be stand alone so you can scrub the dogs off to start with.

 

[Vlad59]

The only people moaning about it will be the North Sydney fans when they have to make the 20 minute train trip over to Allianz …and that’s if they are even lucky that Perth havent gone with the Jets by then

He’s also forgetting the fact clubs are paid to take these games away from home. The Bears will not be paying for a game at North Sydney. They will assume they are entitled to it

 

[Bukowski]

He’s also forgetting the fact clubs are paid to take these games away from home. The Bears will not be paying for a game at North Sydney. They will assume they are entitled to it

Plus bathurst don't ask for ownership of Penrith or seats on the board.

 

[Vlad59]

Plus bathurst don't ask for ownership of Penrith or seats on the board.

He forgets all the facts that show his views are rubbish

 

[Wb1234]

The only people moaning about it will be the North Sydney fans when they have to make the 20 minute train trip over to Allianz …and that’s if they are even lucky that Perth havent gone with the Jets by then

Aren’t you a sharkies fan or am I wrong ?

 

[BuffaloRules]

Plus bathurst don't ask for ownership of Penrith or seats on the board.

And they get one game a year there … not half a dozen others a short commute away

 

[BuffaloRules]

Aren’t you a sharkies fan or am I wrong ?

Thats funny …

 

[Perth Red]

It only has 8k seats and a current capacity of 10k. Perth will make double or triple $ playing in Perth.

The main advantage for Perth of partnering with Bears is away crowds (and members) in Sydney. This benefits the team by having some crowd support to get behind them, but most importantly it benefits the Sydney clubs by having an extra couple of thousand Bears fans at games v Perth. It mean that games v Manly will be a sellout rather than their smallest of the season. Fans will come out of the woodwork, especially for finals. An extra $50k - $150k revenue per game v Perth is a good reason for PVL and the Sydney clubs to push for Perth Bears.

By way of example, the Swans/Lions away crowds in Melbourne are 10k & 5k higher than the average of the other six non Victorian AFL teams. So surely the Bears could bring 1k - 5k to games (depending on venue).

The Jets give Perth bid some leverage over Bears. Jets are not asking for anything, they are offering their branding and pathways. The positives of Bears is more fans. The negative is games at NSO.

Best outcome is a Perth offer to take on Bears branding and pathways, with ownership and all games in WA. Maybe one Bears seat on the board. This would be very similar to when Brisbane took the branding and some players from Fitzroy in 1996 - a takeover rather than a merger.

I can see Bears ending in tears, Jets becoming a genuine Perth club.
The two just seem to have very different attitudes.
end of day it will be up to the Perth bid and WA govt to decide, who, if any, they partner with. The Perth bid are made up of smart business guys with RL backgrounds who will be pragmatic.
If they feel the best future for a Perth club is a partnership I have no doubts they will pick the one they think will deliver the best long term outcome for a Perth club. If they feel they have what it takes to be successful alone and that the NRl will accept that I have no doubt we will see a stand alone club. Looking forward to what they decide.

 

[Wb1234]

And they get one game a year there … not half a dozen others a short commute away

Boo hoo hoo

what about all those clubs taking home games to Brisbane ?

a city that has two rugby league teams

 

[AlwaysGreen]

To think that someone from North Sydney would support a team from Perth just because the team has a crummy bears logo and plays 1 game a year at a cricket oval is ludicrous.

Only a dope like wbgoogle would believe that this would work.