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2nd Test: Pakistan v England at Abu Dhabi Jan 25-29, 2012

TheParraboy

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Can Pakis make it 2-0

Wil Halla have a cry about the creator of this thread?


yes and yes :D
 

AlwaysGreen

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I can see England bouncing back, they're a proffesional outfit and will be quick to fix their mistakes. England have a problem in their side that they've got 2 blokes (peiterson and broad) who are either very good or woeful one game to the next.

A harsh call, but Broad is the Bitch Johnson of England cricket. Maybe a little more consistent than bitch but still can be poor.

Oh and hopefully H will cry.
 
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aussies1st

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What was wrong with Broad's performance last match?

Morgan is on thin ice, he's averaging 34 after 14 test matches, there is giving a player time and then there is backing the wrong horse.
 

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I think we'll see an England fight back in this match, their batting is a lot better than it was in the first match and they have to prove that. I still think Pakis are perfectly capable of sealing the series in this match, but it will definitely take more than 3 days and will definitely be a more competitive match than the first one. I am really looking forward to it

As for PB's other question, I've decided that I don't care any more. I couldn't fill up the page at the moment anyway, because the 4th Australia test will last longer than all the other active ones here at the moment.
 

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What was wrong with Broad's performance last match?
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3/84 is ok. 25 runs is barely a pass. If you were a youngster making it out in the game. This guy has not fulfilled his talent. Add his petulant attitude and you've got a guy on cruise control in the team.
 

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On the topic of treading on thin ice, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this since he is the captain, but Strauss has only scored one test century in his last 41 innings. Since he scored his 2nd last century (amassing 5000 runs in the process) in the Lord's Ashes test in July 2009, his average has dipped quite a bit from 44.64 to 41.60. His last century was the 1st Ashes test in Brisbane.

At 34 (soon to be 35 in March), his form will be monitored by selectors, considering he'll be 36 in the Ashes next year.
 

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Regarding Pietersen, Pietersen reminds me a lot of Adam Gilchrist - on his day, his strokeplay and timing is immaculate but when it is not his day, will get out very quickly. Still have a very good average of just under 50, but hasn't quite been the same player since he suffered the same injury (during the 2009 Ashes) that finished off Matthew Hayden. Like Haydos in his final year, Pietersen's footwork has gone missing and finds himself lunging at wide deliveries, oftening edging them or hitting them straight to the fielders.
 

Hallatia

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On the topic of treading on thin ice, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this since he is the captain, but Strauss has only scored one test century in his last 41 innings. Since he scored his 2nd last century (amassing 5000 runs in the process) in the Lord's Ashes test in July 2009, his average has dipped quite a bit from 44.64 to 41.60. His last century was the 1st Ashes test in Brisbane.

At 34 (soon to be 35 in March), his form will be monitored by selectors, considering he'll be 36 in the Ashes next year.
And at this stage, Cook could easily replace him as test captain. Cook seemed a moe likely test captain than an ODI captain before he was given that
 

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I didn't realise Strauss' average was so low. That is really pretty ordinary for a supposedly top quality top order player.
 

TheParraboy

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I think we'll see an England fight back in this match, their batting is a lot better than it was in the first match and they have to prove that. I still think Pakis are perfectly capable of sealing the series in this match, but it will definitely take more than 3 days and will definitely be a more competitive match than the first one. I am really looking forward to it

As for PB's other question, I've decided that I don't care any more. I couldn't fill up the page at the moment anyway, because the 4th Australia test will last longer than all the other active ones here at the moment.

Typical South africa trait ;-)
 

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As a successful captain Strauss deserves a bit of leeway but it's a long time between centuries.

If England lose this series then the rumblings of discontent might grow a bit louder and Strauss may have to step down and retire just before he gets pushed out the door. If your form is extremely ordinary but you're winning, people will grumble but not really demand changes. The minute you start losing though, its rightfully time to look at other options.
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/england-point-finger-of-suspicion-at-first-test-destroyer-20120123-1qcy6.html

England point finger of suspicion at first Test destroyer..

Derek Pringle in Abu Dhabi
January 23, 2012 - 11:05AM

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Controversial ... Saeed Ajmal of Pakistan. Photo: Reuters

Now Matt Prior points finger of suspicion at Saeed Ajmal's action..


The stance taken by England's players over Saeed Ajmal's bowling action appears to have shifted permanently from the appeasement diplomacy of Andrew Strauss to the more gunboat approach taken by Andy Flower, after his pointed refusal to endorse the spinner's action on Friday.
Yesterday (Sunday), Matt Prior, who faced Ajmal for longer than anyone in the first innings of the first Test in Dubai, also steered clear of his captain's conciliatory tones, suggesting a collective stance had been taken by senior players. Jonathan Trott had also been non-committal when asked about the spinner's action 24 hours previously.
But, as with Flower and Trott, -public condemnation of Ajmal was not -forthcoming, Prior preferring to stress the team's need to quash the -controversy lest it infect them in the build-up to Wednesday's second Test in Abu Dhabi.

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Matt Prior of England attempts to sweep a delivery bowled by Saeed Ajmal during the first Test. Photo: Reuters


"It won't be an issue in the dressing room because we won't allow it to be," said Prior, when he was asked about Ajmal's action. "I don't think any good can come from looking at it or watching it. I think the guys have said, rightly, over the last couple of days that the ICC have procedures in place that will look after that and that's up to them to take care of the off-field stuff. We have to concentrate on what is coming down at us."
That is a lot easier for Prior to say, having made an unbeaten 70 and coped pretty well against Ajmal, than for someone such as Ian Bell, twice dismissed by him after failing to read the doosra. Bell was England's leading run-scorer in Tests last year but to be rendered a novice by someone you and your team-mates feel stretches the laws to breaking point, and -perhaps beyond, is not so easily -overcome.
"I think we're all honest enough in our dressing room to say whatever's going on there, that it's not up to us and that it's not going to change -anything," said Prior. "We've got two more Test matches and we have to win them if we want to win this series. Us moaning about it is not going to get us anywhere."
As the top-ranked Test team, it is right that England are mindful of the bad PR that would arise from complaining too overtly. But, Strauss apart, and he has to be neutral at least until his next book is out, there still seems to be a concerted effort not to appease Pakistan over this.
"We've got to be very careful because the minute you start accusing people of doing things and playing differently it can be perceived as excuses as well," said Prior. "When you haven't performed, or performed like we have, the last thing you want to be doing is making excuses."
Not whingeing about Ajmal's action may help stiffen resolve behind closed doors but when they face him on the pitch batsmen are alone and there to be picked off. How best to cope with that, even on a pitch as traditionally benign as the one here in the Sheikh Zayed Stadium, is surely more important than playing mind games.
"Everyone will have their own way of playing him, but I think you have to have a clarity of game plan, that is the most important thing about playing spin, especially against someone who can spin it both ways," said Prior. "He's quite tough to pick, which makes it tricky. But if you can't pick him you have to find a way that gives you the best opportunity to survive long enough that you start to see his action, and the ball, better.
"Whether that comes from trying to sit in for a bit or attacking him to put the pressure back on the bowler, is a very individual thing."
Had Prior failed in Dubai, it might have been because his own clarity of mind had been affected by the England and Wales Cricket Board's decision not to award him a No Objection Certificate (NOC) to take part in the Bangladesh Premier League, which begins on Feb 10.
Prior, whose price was pounds 75,000, badly wanted to play but said he accepted the ECB decision, which was based on advice from the Professional Cricketers' Association. The PCA was not happy that proper duty of care was in place over safety and security, which meant that Prior, Chris Tremlett and Graham Onions, from the Test squad here, were refused the NOCs required for their participation.


The Telegraph, London



Looks like we've got another Murali on our hands..

Ban him bowling the doosra..Hardly anyone bowls it legally anyway..
 

Twizzle

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at least Murali spun the ball,

this guy did jackshit in the first test and all his dismissals I saw were from terrible batting
 

Hallatia

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Tremlett is definitely out for this one and the rest of the series, the toss is a few minutes away and there is some speculation that England may go with 5 bowlers:crazy:

That would be both Finn and Monty into replace Tremlett and maybe lose Morgan or someone
 

Hallatia

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one change for Pakistan, Junaid Khan replaces Aizaz Cheema and only one change for England. Monty Panesar replaces Chris Tremlett (so England have not gone with 5 bowlers)

sides are as follows

Pakistan:
Mohammad Hafeez, Taufeeq Umar, Azhar Ali, Younis Khan, Misbah-ul-Haq (captain), Asad Shafiq, Adnan Akmal (keeper), Abdur Rehman, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Junaid Khan

England:
Andrew Strauss (captain), Alastair Cook, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen, Ian Bell, Eoin Morgan, Matt Prior (keeper), Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann, Jamey Anderson, Monty Panesar
 

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