3-2-1's Dragons/Roosters

[lockyno1]

for a start i am not your mate and secondly your fans are joke and the weakness of your club and the nrl to deal with your lot is a disgrace - oh yeh small minority - rubbish - dogs should be relocated to darwin

This has what to do with todays game? Plus the dogs' crowd behaviour has improved significantly in the past month.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

Look I can't comment really on the whole match, I was watching my team in the AFL, but in general refs don't cost matches. The "offside" tries I have seen and both were fine. The obstruction I have not seen so I can't comment on that one. However even if it was wrong it was cancelled out by the Shillington try which was dubious at best!

Comrade Shillington had control of the ball and clearly planted the ball over the try line with downward pressure - TRY

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

I noticed you had absolutely no retort to your club's efforts today or the point of the argument.

Here's a simple one for you:

YOU LOSE.

shouldn;t it read Bulldogs fans for violence - it would be good to see your dog team play a exhibition match against the Russian bears in Moscow with hopefully some of your supporters attending as Moscow police/Federal service know exactly how to deal with such people unlike here.

 

[lockyno1]

Comrade Shillington had control of the ball and clearly planted the ball over the try line with downward pressure - TRY

The one fingernail was it? It was dubious, and I am fine with it being a try but saints supporters would have said no try. That cancells out the obstruction ruling. If they were the only two blantant errors, then I am struggling to see how the ref cost the match!:?

 

[Timmah]

shouldn;t it read Bulldogs fans for violence - it would be good to see your dog team play a exhibition match against the Russian bears in Moscow with hopefully some of your supporters attending as Moscow police/Federal service know exactly how to deal with such people unlike here.

Avoiding the point yet again? Typical Communist.

Roosters have nothing.

 

[lockyno1]

Roosters have nothing.

We know that one.:lol:

By the way Timmah, congratulations on being proactive about fixing the previous problems at the dogs games. I may go to a dogs game by the end of the season. The more you guys and the police do together the better. Well done.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

The one fingernail was it? It was dubious, and I am fine with it being a try but saints supporters would have said no try. That cancells out the obstruction ruling. If they were the only two blantant errors, then I am struggling to see how the ref cost the match!:?

It was clearly downward pressure with the player in control of the ball - the Sa try and the Fitzy conversion would put the Roosters in front 18 - 16.

Yes saints fans without much knowledge (which is the majority) would say no try but the olders one's around us said that shillingtons was a fair try as was sa's as he run back across field behind the roosters player who intially played the ball and whom did not move to impede no defender then straightened up and beat a few more players before scoring.

I watched the late news in hope of seeing this so called no try but for some reason this was not shown - a stint in reserve grade for all officials should be mandatory - to also allow the dragons to fein injury and waste time was a disgrace too and so called players such as timmins/barrett etc should be sent off

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

Avoiding the point yet again? Typical Communist.

Roosters have nothing.

i see you have a split personality - which one goes for the dogs and which one for the warriors - how do you decide which game to go too if both play in sydney and who do you go for when both play each other - maybe 1st half dogs then second half warriors.

 

[lockyno1]

It was clearly downward pressure with the player in control of the ball - the Sa try and the Fitzy conversion would put the Roosters in front 18 - 16.

Yes saints fans without much knowledge (which is the majority) would say now try but the olders one's around us said that shillingtons was a fair try as was sa's as he run back across field behind the roosters player who intially played the ball and whom did not move to impede no defender then straightened up and beat a few more players before scoring.

I watched the late news in hope of seeing this so called no try but for some reason this was not shown - a stint in reserve grade for all officials should be mandatory - to also allow the dragons to fein injury and waste time was a disgrace too and so called players such as timmins/barrett etc should be sent off

My opinion is that refereeing errors level themselves out. Errors happen in every game and this game is no exception. However, unless I am proven otherwise when I watch the full replay, the better team won on the day.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

My opinion is that refereeing errors level themselves out. Errors happen in every game and this game is no exception. However, unless I am proven otherwise when I watch the full replay, the better team won on the day.

decisions evening themselves out are a fallacy as is the saying "you have to lose a grand final to win one"- if one can be guaranteed to win a g/f after losing one then it would not matter losing one but as all know it may be the only g/f the team play's in.

Imagine losing a g/f on a ref's wrong decison - tell the players it will even it's self out next year and you will win a g/f on a ref's wrong decision - it will never happen.

trouble is you have basically semi/amateur officials overseeing a professional game being run by novices - nrl

 

[girvie]

3 - Wes Naiqama
2 - Lee Te Maari
1 - David Shillington

 

[lockyno1]

decisions evening themselves out are a fallacy as is the saying "you have to lose a grand final to win one"- if one can be guaranteed to win a g/f after losing one then it would not matter losing one but as all know it may be the only g/f the team play's in.

Imagine losing a g/f on a ref's wrong decison - tell the players it will even it's self out next year and you will win a g/f on a ref's wrong decision - it will never happen.

trouble is you have basically semi/amateur officials overseeing a professional game being run by novices - nrl

Jeez you post some dribble! In a gf you have the best officials availiable and usually they get the decisions right. Last years GF was one of the best GF'S in terms of refereeing!

 

[melon....]

3. Head
2. Shillington
1. Creagh

 

[Red Bear]

3 - Wes Naiqama
2 - Lee Te Maari
1 - David Shillington

Was Lee Te Maari playing today??? What number?

 

[Red Bear]

And Dogs fans telling the roosters they have nothing??? The Roosters busted their guts today to try and pull a win out, never giving up at all. The Bulldogs are playing like softcocks at the moment.

 

[MEATWAD]

The one fingernail was it? It was dubious, and I am fine with it being a try but saints supporters would have said no try. That cancells out the obstruction ruling. If they were the only two blantant errors, then I am struggling to see how the ref cost the match!:?

It was clearly a try he had two fingers on it all the way down and that's all that matters. Downward pressure and control == try.

As for the obstruction ruling, couldn't have put it better than Stuart;

"I don't know. I'm not trying to be smart. I don't understand the interpretation because every week we have a different one. I'm not discrediting anyone but you've only got to look at the last six or seven of them, and they're all different rulings."

And that's the problem with the rule as it stands -- every week, every game, every incident, there's a different interpretation.

My 3-2-1 rating would go 3 Head, 2 Hornby, 1 Wing like many others on this thread.

 

[Kiwi]

this is one occassion out of the 100 that the ref did decide the match

I didn't see many Rooster fan fans complaining when the ref handed them the game against the Cowboys in 2004 to put them in the GF. Didn't see many Rooster fans complaining when Mullins scored from a kick against the Broncos when he was a metre in front of the kicker to put them into the grand final in 2002 or 2003 I think it was.

So unless you whinge when your side gets the better end of the bad calls to win matches, f**k off you tool

 

[Willow]

Was Lee Te Maari playing today??? What number?

Number 16. He had a good run up the middle if the park after Sims put him into the clear.

That'd be one of those 'zilch line breaks' that melon talks about. lol

 

[Willow]

As for the obstruction ruling, couldn't have put it better than Stuart;



And that's the problem with the rule as it stands -- every week, every game, every incident, there's a different interpretation.

Apparently its only inconsistent when the ref's decision goes the other way.

It was more an obstruction than Gasnier's was in the Anzac match of 2004.
11-8 was the full time score that day. You could argue the 2004 ruling cost Saints the match. But not so yesterday.

 

[The Business]

3. Head
2. Shillington
1. Wing