3rd Test: India v South Africa at Nagpur, Nov 25-29, 2015

[The Mad Hatter]

A 90 year old fella said to me about coaching kids to bat:

Kids who can, watch the ball.
Kids who can't, watch from the stands.

Not sure if he worked for a Fortune Cookie company.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

For sure, but the free techniques have been exposed in moving conditions, and it's prevalent everywhere with the importance of 20:20 and the plethora of artificial and drop in or flat pitches

Many international batsmen's games seem to be developed in limited overs cricket and then applied to test cricket - which is well and good in flat conditions. What I love about Williamson is his game is the reverse - designed for tests, and applied elsewhere.

This is why I could never understand why some Aussie test batsmen weren't considered good enough for ODIs when it was complete frogs#it that they weren't suited to ODIs.

On the other hand, derps seem to do apprenticeships in ODIs these days and get in test teams.

That said, I always thought Warner would fail as a test batsman when it was touted he would be picked. Shows how much I know.

 

[Twizzle]

I can't think of a batsman in the current side who has a poor technique....Smith is ungainly but it works for him. Technique is the single most overrated thing in cricket, there is no such thing as one good technique. Sure, there are technical things that all good batsmen do but even then no two players do them in exactly the same way.

Burns comes to mind, he defends with an angled bat instead of a straight bat, he really needs to work on that

 

[Bazal]

He does. That's a flaw, but it's not that his whole technique is poor. You can pick a flaw in any batsman in the world if you look hard enough.

 

[TheParraboy]

people are confusing technique with looking good - Border was technically pretty conventional, so too Steve Waugh

Things like playing late under the eyes, bat close to pad - Chris Martin seemed to be the role model for Australian efforts in the Ashes... all well and good on roads

Anyway, on topic - de Villiers is the best player in the world by a country mile, chance for him to do something very special

Magnificent innings from AB, on par with anything Quiney did at test level :sarcasm:


SA 4/105

 

[jargan83]

Absolute disgrace of a pitch.

 

[African Monkey]

Absolute disgrace of a pitch.

x2

 

[TheParraboy]

India won by 124 runs and the series

dead rubber test coming up in the 4th

 

[hineyrulz]

Curator MOTM.

 

[some11]

This is a good thing, it just means India will continue to get their arses handed to them outside of India because they can't play on anything but this rubbish.

 

[JJ]

India won by 124 runs and the series

dead rubber test coming up in the 4th

What money on s road for that test to help the batting averages?

 

[Twizzle]

This is a good thing, it just means India will continue to get their arses handed to them outside of India because they can't play on anything but this rubbish.

much like us

 

[JJ]

much like us

Exactly - and England atm. That's why NZ made a determined effort to get more pace and bounce (and less seam) in our pitches. We still struggle against extreme pace (bowling not wickets).

Not sure what the answer is tbh - everyone is stronger at home, RSA and to a lesser extent NZ have been good away in the last two years - but both RSA have really been towelled here (and we're losing) - that said, India and Australia are the hardest places to tour, but RSA have made some strange selections, and these wickets have been too spin friendly

 

[chigurh]

Touring sides to bring a curator with them, and each side gets to curate one half of the pitch however they like.

 

[JJ]

Touring sides to bring a curator with them, and each side gets to curate one half of the pitch however they like.

:lol:

Home advantage is fine - but personally wickets that make a key skill largely redundant (or at least hugely advantage one over the other) are poor, we've seen that in both series at the moment - but at the end of the day, that's cricket, and part of the charm... although the Indians didn't think that when we towelled them on green seamers, nor did the Australians I the recent Ashes - guess tourists just have to grin and bear it

 

[Twizzle]

There is talk of doing away with the toss to stop a bit of the pitch doctoring, the visiting team gets to choose.

Being trialed in County cricket.

 

[JJ]

Think I read that the visiting captain only gets to decide if they want to bowl first - if they don't the they toss as normal

So that works for green seamers to a degree, but changes nothing on roads or dustbowls

It is what it is, frustrating thing is 'lesser' nations can't do it - we had green seamers when India toured 10 years or so ago and Bond/Tuffey destroyed them... they weren't happy.

 

[Pete Cash]

You don't think it was a coincidence that the pitches flattened out for India compared to what they were for England. With the top nations its more about the bean counters wanting 5 days of cricket unless someone's arse is on the line....why we went all out against England.

 

[Buzzard Breath]

Dreadful pitch. No real surprise though considering where its played and who gives the orders.