4N: Aussie Team changes?

[The 18th Man]

Who can you see being dropped for the team for our game vs England?

Chris Lawrence coming in to the side for one of either Tonga (wasn't impressive today) or Tate (injury) is an obvious one for mine.

Cooper Cronk wasn't his usual 8/10 self. He may be forgiven given the weather conditions weren't too suit for an attacking style game. He came up with an error or two, some bad decisions and kicks. Will he make way for Todd Carney moving back to the bench thus seeing Gidley dropped?

Our back row was good. I don't like Myles starting at prop. I'd start David Shillington to be honest. I'd like to see Morris more involved when the ball isn't coming his way, he rarely popped up from memory and they may count against him when you have a player like Darius Boyd in the squad.

There are some talking points. I don't think there is a mass culling coming, but I think there will be changes.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

No changes IMO. Maybe Carney for Gidley but im happy with the side. I think it can win.

 

[MoorookaSaint]

Tate, Gidley, Tiquiri, Myles- OUT
Cooper (not in squad I know), Young, Carney, Boyd- IN

Just my opinion. It's got me buggered how St.George can win the comp' in such dominant fashion and not have at least a hand-full of players in the test side.

 

[Big Pete]

:lol:

Is all I have to say.

 

[stormbati]

Only change should be a new centre and prop.

 

[Broncos93]

Tate, Gidley, Tiquiri, Myles- OUT
Cooper (not in squad I know), Young, Carney, Boyd- IN

Just my opinion. It's got me buggered how St.George can win the comp' in such dominant fashion and not have at least a hand-full of players in the test side.

Is Tiquiri out just to accommodate Boyd or by his own fault today?

Because if it's the latter I'm quite suprised. I thought he played good today.

 

[Timmah]

Tonga was utter rubbish IMO. He should be left out, and Tate's injury should see a fresh centre pairing. I'm actually thinking Tuqiri into the centres, Lawrence in the other centre position and bring Boyd onto the wing.

Rest of the team was solid, although Myles bench, Shillington start IMO.

 

[MoorookaSaint]

Lote was ordinary at best today. Tonga is out of his league too.

 

[Benjitheking]

You have to have Tuqiri outside of Lawrence.

 

[MoorookaSaint]

Sheens should bring in Bryce Gibbs to ha ha ha

 

[Ladmate]

If Morris was on Tuqiri's wing the same result would have happened. It was the centre, not the winger. Lawrence replace Tonga.

 

[user_nat]

Tonga was utter rubbish IMO. He should be left out, and Tate's injury should see a fresh centre pairing. I'm actually thinking Tuqiri into the centres, Lawrence in the other centre position and bring Boyd onto the wing.

Rest of the team was solid, although Myles bench, Shillington start IMO.

Everyone was talking about how it was good to have an actual winger.. and you want to move him into a position that he has (possibly?) never player?

If Morris was on Tuqiri's wing the same result would have happened. It was the centre, not the winger. Lawrence replace Tonga.

Everyone was saying the same thing last year in regards to Hodges/Hayne. Then in the final they switched Morris and Hayne, and Hayne still couldn't score.. but Morris got 2.

 

[The 18th Man]

:lol:

Is all I have to say.

Laughing at? :? Thanks for your contribution.

Right or wrong, Sheens has shown he will change his side if he ain't happy with individual performances. Some invididuals were down today against a hapless opponent. Tonga will be lucky to hold on as will one of either Cronk or Gidley.

Interesting take on Lote Timmah, I am not sure I see him moving inside to make way for Boyd. Morris, as good a finisher as there is today, may make way for Boyd though. I think Morris needed to do a little more in coming off his wing and taking some hit ups. Maybe I didn't notice him and it's my issue. I don't have any stats on the game. I just thought he was a little 'out of sight, out of mind' which can't be good at a selection table when you have a player of Boyd's quality in waiting. I don't think there will be much needed to make a case for Darius coming in to the team for either winger.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Probably a sacred cow, but what does Civoniceva actually offer at this level these days?

 

[Big Pete]

Laughing at Marooka Dragon 18th man. His bias was just too much.

 

[The 18th Man]

Probably a sacred cow, but what does Civoniceva actually offer at this level these days?

Veteran leadership amongst other things like ensuring the middle of the ruck is plugged up when defending and making the tough meters no one writes about the morning papers.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Veteran leadership amongst other things like ensuring the middle of the ruck is plugged up when defending and making the tough meters no one writes about the morning papers.

Tough metres? He makes it look tough, that's for sure...

 

[user_nat]

Probably a sacred cow, but what does Civoniceva actually offer at this level these days?

The four props for Australia:
Civoniceva - 12 runs for 107m, 17 tackles
Myles - 14 runs for 105m, 20 tackles
Shillington - 10 runs for 76m, 14 tackles (lol)
Lars - 9 runs for 90m, 15 tackles

Doesn't really seem much worse than the rest of them. He got dominated a few times though.

Back rowers had much better stats though.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

The four props for Australia:
Civoniceva - 12 runs for 107m, 17 tackles
Myles - 14 runs for 105m, 20 tackles
Shillington - 10 runs for 76m, 14 tackles (lol)
Lars - 9 runs for 90m, 15 tackles

Doesn't really seem much worse than the rest of them. He got dominated a few times though.

Stats like that are pretty irrelevant imo. These days Civoniceva getting the ball just means the defence can rest easy because he's not gonna do anything.

 

[The 18th Man]

Tough metres? He makes it look tough, that's for sure...

I am not sure it's in a prop's job description to make what they do look pretty.