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4TH ASHES TEST: England v Australia at Chester-le-Street Aug 9-13, 2013

unbreaK

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1) Rogers
2) Warner
3) Clarke
4) Khawaja
5) Hughes
6) Smith
7) Haddin
8) Siddle
9) Harris
10) Bird
11) Lyon
 

AlwaysGreen

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I'm a big fan but he has looked scratchy and needs to put runs on the board. If he doesn't take his chance then he will be dropped.
 

Timbo

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Hadds only a 6?

Brilliant behind the stumps with umpteen dismissals during the test and an unbeaten uptempo 50 in the first dig? That's some hard bloody marking right there.

Uzi also a bit hard done by.
 

BunniesMan

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If our selectors had sense: Phil Hughes in for Shane Watson.

But the lineup will be unchanged because we've got irrational and undeserved confidence.
 

BunniesMan

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1) Rogers
2) Warner
3) Clarke
4) Khawaja
5) Hughes
6) Smith
7) Haddin
8) Siddle
9) Harris
10) Bird
11) Lyon
I'm Hughes biggest fan and I think he should be in the team but if he isn't going to open he shouldn't be there.
 

Timbo

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If our selectors had sense: Phil Hughes in for Shane Watson.

But the lineup will be unchanged because we've got irrational and undeserved confidence.

Except our bowlers are already desperately struggling due to their workload so unless Hughes has suddenly turned into a handy quick bowler as well as a horribly inconsistent batsman, no bueno.

If anyone comes in for Watson it should be Faulkner.
 

Twizzle

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I agree Timbo

love to see Faulkner get a run, I think he is a huge talent and he not a f**king prima donna who thinks the team revolves around him
 

hineyrulz

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The Ashes are gone so Uzi should at least get the last two test's to show what he can do.
 

unbreaK

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1 - Warner
2 - Hughes
3 - Clarke
4 - Khawaja
5 - Smith
6 - Faulkner
7 - Haddin
8 - Siddle
9 - Harris
10 - Bird
11 - Lyon

Let's just do it, YOLO.
 
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Me personally? No one. But the selectors will drop him if he doesn't succeed. I give him these last 2 tests to score runs, if he doesn't he must be on shaky ground.

I'm not so sure they will.

Our batting depth being what it is and all.


No.3 is a hard role to fill as well. Only person I'd play there is Clarke.
 

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/659489.html

Watson's opening role under scanner

Brydon Coverdale

August 6, 2013


Shane Watson's rebirth as a Test opener could be short-lived with Australia's brains trust considering reinstating David Warner at the top of the order for the fourth Test in Chester-le-Street. At the start of the series, the coach Darren Lehmann declared that Watson and Chris Rogers would be Australia's Ashes openers but Watson's failure to pass a score of fifty in five innings in the position, combined with Warner's return from exile in South Africa, could encourage a rethink.

Warner batted at No.6 in the first innings in Manchester but was promoted for the second innings as the Australians sought quick runs, while Watson moved down to No.4. Rogers outplayed Watson in the first innings with a perky 84 that showed he is not just an occupier, and his experience and composure makes him a potentially important man at the top for the rest of this tour and the return series in Australia later this year.

Like Warner, Watson enjoys the ball coming on to the bat but his lbw vulnerability has been an issue, and his diminishing returns while opening in this series - 46, 30, 20 and 19 - have been far from what Australia have needed. Lehmann said the second-innings change was not due to Watson's form but to allow him to attack Graeme Swann in the middle order and give Warner free rein at the top, and it was a method they would consider using again in the fourth Test.

"We may do, yeah, but at the end of the day, it's the selectors getting together and making that decision," Lehmann said. "We always consult the captain about what he considers is the best batting order as well, so for us we'll make that decision once we see the wicket in Durham."

For his part, the captain Michael Clarke said the decision on where to use Watson was "a tough one" given the dual factors of his comfort at the top and his usefulness as a bowler. But the fact remains that Watson has now played 45 Test innings since the most recent of his two centuries, which came against India in Mohali in October 2010, and his 2013 batting average of 20.41 is the worst he has managed in the past five years.

"Watto has made it clear to me and everyone that he loves opening the batting," Clarke said. "The positive with Shane Watson is that he is such a good bowler. It's a tough one, we have to work out first and foremost what is the best for the team and then give Watto the opportunity to play where he feels most comfortable and where he thinks he can have the most success - because if he is scoring runs and taking wickets, it goes a long way to helping us win Test matches.

"We will continue to talk and assess what is best for the team. Shane understood my reasoning for opening with Warner in the second innings and was more than happy to move to No.4, and has made it clear that wherever I want him to bat, he will do that for the team."

The other major question of team make-up for the selectors ahead of Chester-le-Street is whether Ryan Harris can back up with only a three-day break between matches. Harris has struggled with a wide variety of injuries throughout his short Test career and the only time he has ever completed three consecutive Tests was during the last Ashes in Australia in 2010-11, when he broke down in the third of those matches with a serious ankle injury.

"I think he has a reasonable chance now, he hasn't bowled today," Lehmann said after the final day at Old Trafford. "If he'd bowled today, I wouldn't think he would be a chance at all so again we'll just have to see how he pulls up on the travel day and see how he goes at training."


Looks like Warner may open with Rogers

If they are gonna drop Watson down the order to 6, they may as well drop him altogether and invest in Faulkner for the next two tests, surely he can average better than 20.41 with the bat as Sunshine has this year, plus is more than a handy bowler
 

Twizzle

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I agree, good move to give Faulker a run now to see if he is up to it for our Summer.

Wont happen though, maybe in the last test if this one goes pear shaped for Sunshine.
 

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I'd go with
Warner
Rogers
Khawaja
Clarke
Smith
Watson
Haddin
Siddle
Lyon
Harris
Bird
That's what I'd go with, although depends how Harris pulls up.

That's my team Unit.

However, they will pick Starkers over Bird because he's a left hander :blahb: and adds variety :blahb: and can be an X factor :blahb: and is useful with the bat :blahb:
:lol:

If our selectors had sense: Phil Hughes in for Shane Watson.

But the lineup will be unchanged because we've got irrational and undeserved confidence.

No because then you'd need another bowler as well. Watson at 6 has value because he's bowling very well, keeping the pressure on.
 

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