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5th Test: India v England at Chennai, Dec 16-20, 2016

Bazal

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In fact a quick google reveals Simpson scored his triple on a "dead flat, batting friendly wicket" in a total of 8/656

Sounds eerily similar
 

TheParraboy

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The issues are the pitch which is a road and does nothing to promote cricket. The second issue is that India have found a way to stay top of the icc rankings: schedule 10+ tests at home a year, play fewer away and stay top. The ICC are powerless to stop them and other sides will take the money on offer without caring about the consequences.

When we spank India 4-0 over there, their test ranking will plummet that they will immediately schedule a bunch of ODI's (7 match series v us) and t20's for their next summer
 

chigurh

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England have like a month off and then have to go back for an ODI and T20 series.. bet they can't wait for that.

We are gonna get so hammered over there. Watching Matt Wade fail is gonna be the highlight of the tour.
 

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Poms dont have another test match till middle of next year, not a good ashes preparation.

I noticed the stadium was just about chock a block last night, they only turn up to test matches when they can watch thier side win, normally their stadiums are just about empty
 

JJ

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LOL at the bitchiness about India - poor decks, crap cricket, personal milestones ahead of winning, numpties getting big scores, crowds only come when they win...

A win on the 5th afternoon is good imo, and negates all the other bullshit comment- as to the crowds, well everyone gets bigger crowds when they win, and India win a lot at the moment
 
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http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cric...nd-it-must-end-right-now-20161220-gtfgtq.html

Michael Vaughan: England cricket team is soft and it must end right now
  • Michael Vaughan

Nobody expected England to win this series in India. But a common theme has developed and needs to be acted on quickly. They have a mental softness about them.

Mental toughness is doing things you do not enjoy or want to do. Mental toughness is sometimes playing the way the game dictates even if it is against your natural instincts. Mental toughness is fighting through tiring times, and staying the distance and keeping performance levels up to the end of the fifth day of the last Test of a series.
In India they consistently collapsed or produced soft dismissals, and the excuse was made that England do not have a world-class spinner. It is nothing to do with not having a world-class spinner if you cannot bat out the last two sessions of the day with 10 wickets in hand.

Look at the way Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma bowled. They bowled quicker than England. That is nothing to do with not having a world-class spinner. The fact England do not have a world-class spinner was not why they lacked fight and energy in the field.

Tactically England went on the defensive too soon. Go back to the last day at Rajkot, when they batted slowly instead of trying to set a target, or the first night in Visakhapatnam, when they did not attack enough with the second new ball, or the last innings in that match when they blocked and blocked. Those mistakes were nothing to do with the lack of a world-class spinner.

Yes, England need a quality spinner if they want to be No.1 in the world. That is not my point. My point is that too many excuses are made for this team because they are a good set of lads, great with the media and the captain is a lovely bloke.

Trevor Bayliss left the tour early to go home and have a hernia operation and nobody said a word. Imagine an England soccer coach going home before the last game to have a hernia op. There would be uproar. But because it is a nice culture around the England team nobody says anything about it. It just seems to be a very friendly, comfortable environment.

In England we spend a vast amounts of money on development. There are Lions programmes, talent pathways, under-19 teams, back-room coaches, analysts, 18 counties with indoor schools so the players can train all winter. But if we are being open and honest, we are still not producing a cricket team that is mentally tough enough.

Alastair Cook has to be 100 per cent certain he wants to carry on as England captain if he decides to continue after this series. He has to sit down and ask himself: is he the man to energise this England side for seven Test matches in the summer and win the Ashes down under, or has he taken it as far as he can? If he feels he is the man to lead them next year then he needs to bring together that core group of players who appear in all formats and ask them to drive the team in a different direction.

Cook will know now if he is going to carry on or quit. He has been through two or three difficult periods before and there is only so much he can take. The one thing I regretted in my career was not playing for two years as a non-captain. I would have loved to have had that time enjoying the game and realising cricket is a great sport to play.

When you are captain, and the team are losing, you do not enjoy the game. It drags you down. You wake up in the morning not really wanting to go out and play. Cook somehow has to rediscover that zest and energy to play the game.

I think the team needs his power and runs at the top of the order more than his leadership.

Nobody can accuse him of not giving everything. But to pick up a Test team who are on a losing streak to take on South Africa and the West Indies next summer, and then go to Australia, he has to be absolutely committed to being captain. He cannot have any inkling he wants to go. He cannot suddenly lose the first Test against South Africa in July and think: "Oh no what have I done? Why have I carried on?"

Will the England team play any better or worse if he goes? I cannot see how they can play worse. It is not just this defeat to India. They have been playing like this for a while.

Cook cannot have enjoyed his cricket this year. It has been an incredibly tough year for the Test team. I wrote a few weeks ago this team need to go in a different direction with a new group of senior players driving them forward. I have seen nothing since to change my mind.

The same intensity and positive approach that Bayliss has instilled in the one-day team has to be put into the England Test team quickly because they are going downhill fast.

I am worried a lot of our eggs are going into the one-day basket. We are not a good enough team to focus on just one or the other. We have to keep our eye very closely on all formats of the game because if we let one of them drift we will be found out, like we have in Test cricket this year.

The Telegraph, London
 

Mr Bean

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The further the series went on the worse Eng seemed to get. Soft or reckless dismissals and a inability to grind away at cost them at times.Its poor to have a batting collapse on day 5 when the past 4 days have accumulated 1248 runs where only 17 wickets have fallen.
Surely Cook is done as captain. Hameed and Jennings give them some hope for the future.
Lehmann be warned a 20/20 cavalier approach with not work in test cricket over there.
 

Bazal

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I'd love to have a massive lol @ England but we are going to get murdered just as badly.

Anyone in world cricket would get murdered in India. They are a top3 quality side playing on tailor made wickets.The draw was an aberration on a pitch that the BCCI would have been furious with.
 

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My fearless prediction is that we will do a lot better on this Indian trip than we did last time.
 

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