6-State/Nation World Series

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Would it be worth having a competition one year that didn't include Australia, but instead had NSW and QLD in it?

Imagine our own Six Nations like competition involving England, France, Wales, New Zealand, New South Wales and Queensland up here in the UK. I reckon you'd get some huge crowds.

The opening week, all games at Wembley.
France vs Wales (a great contest in itself), followed by NSW vs QLD (biggest attended rep game in the world) and England vs NZ to finish the day off. Surely you could sell out Wembley with that sort of schedule?!

The rest... well... I'd confidently say that England vs NSW/QLD would draw just as much as a game against Australia. England vs Wales remains to be seen, but if the Welsh national team keeps coming on we could see a good crowd (we have in the past), and although games against France haven't been big, they served themselves well in the last Four Nations they were in (though they are crap in the mid-season test because they are so disadvantaged).

Would be one hell of a five weeks!

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

No. NSW and Queensland aren't countries.

 

[Evil Homer]

No...

 

[roopy]

If Rugby League were brave enough they could declare NSW and Queensland to be separate entities, much as England, Wales, Scotland are parts of the same country but separate entities for sports purposes.
It makes a hell of a lot of sense, but not for a one off tournament. If you were going to do it, you should do it permanently.
It would give RL an extra top 5 side, while removing the strongest side, so basically make International RL competitive at the stroke of a pen.
We don't have to do what other sports do to be credible - we could take our unique circumstances into account if we wanted to.

 

[bobmar28]

NSW/QLD are states not counties or provinces so yes I think it would work.

 

[crimpo]

But then New Zealand would have no opposition at all!

 

[juro]

It is an option and there is the precedence. We had that tri-series back during the superleague war between NSW, NZ and QLD. I doubt they will go with it though.

 

[Evil Homer]

It makes a hell of a lot of sense,.

It would make absolutely no sense. Think about what you are posting.

 

[adamkungl]

Terrible idea.

 

[roopy]

It would make absolutely no sense. Think about what you are posting.

It would take a week to get used to the idea, and from then on it's all upside.

 

[Goldfields_Titans]

No. NSW and Queensland aren't countries.

They almost are! Likewise England, Wales etc are not strictly countries either as they are only part of the United Kingdom.
Separate governments and all that. WA wishes it was a separate nation. We could plough all the money we generate back into our own state for a change!

 

[Evil Homer]

It would take a week to get used to the idea, and from then on it's all upside.

No, having non-international sides competing in international tournaments can never have an 'upside' and should never, ever be allowed to happen.

 

[Goldfields_Titans]

Terrible idea.

Good idea.

 

[roopy]

No, having non-international sides competing in international tournaments can never have an 'upside' and should never, ever be allowed to happen.

Scotland, Wales, Cook Islands, Catalonia - none of those are countries.
In cricket, the West Indies is not a country.

Queenslanders would support Qld as much or more than Australia, and NSWelshmen would take it up after a while too.

The thing that drags down international league more than anything else is that people think Australia are far too good for the opposition, so they don't see it as competitive. That could be changed in a second.

 

[adamkungl]

The thing that drags down international league more than anything else is that people think Australia are far too good for the opposition, so they don't see it as competitive. That could be changed in a second.

Lol, Australia are neither the 4N champs or World Champs.

A better idea would be a 6N including none of the big 3.

Wales, France, PNG, Fiji, Lebanon, USA?

 

[adamkungl]

Scotland, Wales, Cook Islands, Catalonia - none of those are countries.

wikipedia (not the greatest source but whatever):

Wales is a country that is part of the United Kingdom

The United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy and unitary state. It is a country[12][13] consisting of four countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.

 

[Evil Homer]

Scotland, Wales, Cook Islands, Catalonia - none of those are countries.
In cricket, the West Indies is not a country.

Queenslanders would support Qld as much or more than Australia, and NSWelshmen would take it up after a while too.

The thing that drags down international league more than anything else is that people think Australia are far too good for the opposition, so they don't see it as competitive. That could be changed in a second.

If some sort of tournament involving NSW, Queensland and international sides ever came about, it would be an absolute embarrassment and disgrace. In fact I'd go so far as to say I'd walk away from the international game completely. I can't understand how RL fans constantly fail to see that our international game needs credibility, and why they continue to disrespect it by making up contrived bullsh*t ideas like this as if it would be some kind of improvement. Honestly this is the sort of thing that makes the whole thing into a joke. Maybe in Australia people think the Kangaroos are too good (which they blatantly aren't as they keep losing). But Australia is not the world. I cannot believe anyone in their right mind would ever think this would be a good idea.

 

[hutch]

If some sort of tournament involving NSW, Queensland and international sides ever came about, it would be an absolute embarrassment and disgrace. In fact I'd go so far as to say I'd walk away from the international game completely. I can't understand how RL fans constantly fail to see that our international game needs credibility, and why they continue to disrespect it by making up contrived bullsh*t ideas like this as if it would be some kind of improvement. Honestly this is the sort of thing that makes the whole thing into a joke. Maybe in Australia people think the Kangaroos are too good (which they blatantly aren't as they keep losing). But Australia is not the world. I cannot believe anyone in their right mind would ever think this would be a good idea.

Great post evil homer, why do australia even deserve to have 2 teams in the one international tournament?

How is it good for international rugby league if nsw or qld win the tournament, or even beat one of the test teams which is completely possible?

 

[WireMan]

wikipedia (not the greatest source but whatever):

Yeah but Wales is not part of the UK as its not a Kingdom. Hence no dragon on the flag. Its a principality.


On topic... Stupid idea. May as well forget international rugby. As also pointed out. Its not like the full international side has a monopoly on winning comps.

Keep NSW and QLand for Origin.

 

[Arucard]

Maybe Australia should focus on winning a trophy first lol.
Might have a better chance if you dont break up into 2 teams.