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7th Match, Pool A: Afghanistan v Bangladesh - BANGLADESH WON BY 105 RUNS

Bazal

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Poor Afghanis never got going. They fought back well, but at 3/3 they were no chance. TBH Bangladesh weren't overly impressive until Shakib and Mushfiqur came in and took the game away.

Shahpur, the left arm opening quick for Afghanistan, looks a really f**king good bowler.....
 

vvvrulz

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Shapoor and Nabi are really good, the rest of the guys have to play around them if they're any chance of causing an upset.
 

vvvrulz

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Minnow matches jeez! Bring on the next World Cup with 10 teams

I like minnow matches, but not a fan of too many one-sided games and this draw is at the risk of having that (could be wrong!)

I don't think the format is perfect, but narrowing to 10 teams is definitely not the answer.
 

Twizzle

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Minnow matches are necessary to develop the game. I don't believe the Afghanis are this bad, they had a pretty poor game but I think they will do better.

Maybe a bit of stage fright.
 

JJ

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I like minnow matches, but not a fan of too many one-sided games and this draw is at the risk of having that (could be wrong!)

I don't think the format is perfect, but narrowing to 10 teams is definitely not the answer.

So far the "minnows" have done ok - Ireland beat the Windies, Scotland had a fair crack at us...

If you want to develop the game they have to be included, and outside of the WC too
 

lockyno1

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I like minnow matches, but not a fan of too many one-sided games and this draw is at the risk of having that (could be wrong!)

I don't think the format is perfect, but narrowing to 10 teams is definitely not the answer.

Thankfully England in 2019 has only 10 teams thank goodness! These matches just suck, there is only one result. Ideally I think the number should be 12, but 10 is better than having 14.
 

vvvrulz

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Thankfully England in 2019 has only 10 teams thank goodness! These matches just suck, there is only one result. Ideally I think the number should be 12, but 10 is better than having 14.

I will only agree that 12 teams is better than 14 as it trims the draw a bit with less potentially one-sided games. So far though the real one-sided bashings where England (lol) and Pakistan, as JJ pointed out the little teams have done fine so far and hopefully they'll keep it up.

10 is too little, all of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Ireland are an absolute must.

Meanwhile UAE have put up a decent 285/7
 

lockyno1

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I will only agree that 12 teams is better than 14 as it trims the draw a bit with less potentially one-sided games. So far though the real one-sided bashings where England (lol) and Pakistan, as JJ pointed out the little teams have done fine so far and hopefully they'll keep it up.

10 is too little, all of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Ireland are an absolute must.

Meanwhile UAE have put up a decent 285/7

Bangladesh and Ireland would qualify for a top 10 anyway and if Zimbabwe aren't there so be it. The region won't do much anyway as it still has massive political issues. As I said 12 would be ideal. Top 10 then have a pre tournament 'mini world cup' between the associates. Top 2 gain access to the main event. Simple.
 

vvvrulz

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Bangladesh and Ireland would qualify for a top 10 anyway and if Zimbabwe aren't there so be it. The region won't do much anyway as it still has massive political issues. As I said 12 would be ideal. Top 10 then have a pre tournament 'mini world cup' between the associates. Top 2 gain access to the main event. Simple.

That's missing the bigger picture, the problem is associate nations outside the top 10 are getting barely any game time against the big boys. Ireland get a handful of ODIs, Afghanistan and UAE get the Asia Cup, the rest get pretty much nothing. How can anyone expect them to get better?

Trimming the World Cup down to 10 is a consequence of the problem, not a solution.

Hell even cricket's "big three" are all about stacking their calenders with each other and not bothering much with New Zealand, Pakistan, Windies etc. Short tours, big gaps between them, its more like a "thanks bye, now let's have six months of Ashes and India again!".

Very poorly organised sport.
 

lockyno1

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That's missing the bigger picture, the problem is associate nations outside the top 10 are getting barely any game time against the big boys. Ireland get a handful of ODIs, Afghanistan and UAE get the Asia Cup, the rest get pretty much nothing. How can anyone expect them to get better?

Trimming the World Cup down to 10 is a consequence of the problem, not a solution.

Hell even cricket's "big three" are all about stacking their calenders with each other and not bothering much with New Zealand, Pakistan, Windies etc. Short tours, big gaps between them, its more like a "thanks bye, now let's have six months of Ashes and India again!".

Very poorly organised sport.

The minnows should be playing more ODI's between each other ideally twice a year, that will improve them to a point where they will be in that top 2 that qualify. We can't have too many minnows, there are too many rubbish games in this WC potentially. There has been a grand total of 1 upset and even that wasn't really an upset as the Windies suck.

I agree with the test nations, I'm over the yearly 3-4 test series with India. The tests should be spread around. I'd love a 5 test home series against NZ.
 

vvvrulz

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there are too many rubbish games in this WC potentially. There has been a grand total of 1 upset and even that wasn't really an upset as the Windies suck.

In a sample size of.... 7 games?

In which there was the upset you mentioned, Zimbabwe giving South Africa a real game, NZ giving up 7 wickets in a small chase. I agree that there could end up being too many soft games as we progress, but it's definitely not happened so far.
 

lockyno1

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In a sample size of.... 7 games?

In which there was the upset you mentioned, Zimbabwe giving South Africa a real game, NZ giving up 7 wickets in a small chase. I agree that there could end up being too many soft games as we progress, but it's definitely not happened so far.

So there has been 1 upset, teams experiment when they are ahead. NZ wouldn't have batted like complete drunks if they weren't playing a team they would win anyway against! Tell us which minnow is going to best one of the top 4 sides...Exactly, now limit these games to a minimum. Spectators want a close game, they don't want terrible games. I feel for canberra, they got stuck with 3 games which in all likelihood will be rubbish.
 

vvvrulz

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So there has been 1 upset, teams experiment when they are ahead. NZ wouldn't have batted like complete drunks if they weren't playing a team they would win anyway against! Tell us which minnow is going to best one of the top 4 sides...Exactly, now limit these games to a minimum. Spectators want a close game, they don't want terrible games. I feel for canberra, they got stuck with 3 games which in all likelihood will be rubbish.

I moderately agree that there's 2 minnows too many in this world cup, but it's going a bit far to dismiss every minnow game as rubbish before they have even happened. With that attitude we'd have cut Ireland out last time and never got the great England upset of 2011, or Pakistan 2007, etc.

By your definition, Aus vs Eng and India vs Pak were also 'terrible games' because both teams were utterly thrashed.

Canberra has Windies vs Zimbabwe, I expect that to be very close.
They also have Ireland vs South Africa, I definitely wouldn't write off an upset there.
 

lockyno1

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I moderately agree that there's 2 minnows too many in this world cup, but it's going a bit far to dismiss every minnow game as rubbish before they have even happened. With that attitude we'd have cut Ireland out last time and never got the great England upset of 2011, or Pakistan 2007, etc.

By your definition, Aus vs Eng and India vs Pak were also 'terrible games' because both teams were utterly thrashed.

Canberra has Windies vs Zimbabwe, I expect that to be very close.
They also have Ireland vs South Africa, I definitely wouldn't write off an upset there.

Don't think any game has been great this World Cup. I said it before the tournament. The gap between Australia/NZ/SA and the rest is massive, especially in these conditions. 12 nations is more than plenty!

Game on my foot, another loss lol:lol:
 

African Monkey

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I love watching the minnows have a crack at the 'big boys'. There's always massive upsets and anyone who says otherwise can get f**ked.

It's annoying how cricket is so stats driven that the minnows get neglected time and time again and get denied gametime against the big guns as a result.

I think cricket would be the only game in the world where expansion is frowned upon.
 

TheParraboy

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I love watching the minnows have a crack at the 'big boys'. There's always massive upsets and anyone who says otherwise can get f**ked.

It's annoying how cricket is so stats driven that the minnows get neglected time and time again and get denied gametime against the big guns as a result.

I think cricket would be the only game in the world where expansion is frowned upon.



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