8 Point Try / Penalty Try

[Paullyboy]

Watching the Storm/Broncos game yesterday there was a point where Slater struck out at the player trying to score the try with his leg (an illegal move).

The channel 9 commentary team then went on to say they thought an 8 point try (potentially) was coming up as the player was fouled in the act of scoring.

I haven't got a copy of the rule book handy but I'm positive that a potential 8 point try can only be awarded if a foul is committed AFTER the try has been scored. My understanding of the rules is that if a foul occurs during the motion of the try being scored it's a penalty try (the difference being that a penalty try gives only the one shot at goal - albeit from in front of the posts).

Am I correct (and if so the entire channel 9 commentary team were wrong)? Or has this rule changed at some point?

 

[Kogarah4Ever]

Well it was an 8 point try when soward got tangled up with a player last year.. against melbourne? Inglis i think it was? And that was all in the motion of him scoring the try. Slater the grub always seems to get away with anything.

 

[Danish]

From my understanding an 8 point try meant an offence that happened while in the the motion of scoring a try. So if slater hadn't managed to dislodge the ball and had just got him square in the melon moments before the ball was put down, it would be an 8 point try.

I think the refs ruled that the ball was no grounded, and for that reason gave a penalty try. I would argue though that it was grounded by the torso after being illegally kicked out by slater.

 

[Frailty]

Watching the Storm/Broncos game yesterday there was a point where Slater struck out at the player trying to score the try with his leg (an illegal move).

The channel 9 commentary team then went on to say they thought an 8 point try (potentially) was coming up as the player was fouled in the act of scoring.

I haven't got a copy of the rule book handy but I'm positive that a potential 8 point try can only be awarded if a foul is committed AFTER the try has been scored. My understanding of the rules is that if a foul occurs during the motion of the try being scored it's a penalty try (the difference being that a penalty try gives only the one shot at goal - albeit from in front of the posts).

Am I correct (and if so the entire channel 9 commentary team were wrong)? Or has this rule changed at some point?

A Penalty try is award when a try would have been scored had it not been for an illegal act that would otherwised be penalised.

An 8-point try on the other hand is when misconduct occurs whilst an attacking player is 'touching down' the ball, and no other subsequent period. This general means the period just before and just after the ball is grounded.

 

[Raider_69]

From my understanding an 8 point try meant an offence that happened while in the the motion of scoring a try. So if slater hadn't managed to dislodge the ball and had just got him square in the melon moments before the ball was put down, it would be an 8 point try.

I think the refs ruled that the ball was no grounded, and for that reason gave a penalty try. I would argue though that it was grounded by the torso after being illegally kicked out by slater.

thats pretty much word for what what i was going to post
except i think the video ref got it 100% right yesterday, i didnt see the ball get grounded at all, but it would have if not for the foul play so the penalty try is the right call imo

 

[Danish]

I thought it looked to get grounded at some stage, but really with the kick from the absolute sideline it likely wouldn't have made a difference either way.

The most important thing is slater was actually penalised and then charged for it (even if he wont miss a week)

 

[*Paul*]

Or has this rule changed at some point?

I believe it has, as its intention was to prevent cheap shots on a player after he'd scored.
Must of
a> Made too much sense
b> Its number came up in the biweekly "let's needlessly change a rule" lottery.

 

[Gaba]

with a penalty try the player wont be sent off even if its worthy of a sent off , but an 8 point try the player could be sent off depending on how bad the incident is

 

[Bulldog Force]

Watching the Storm/Broncos game yesterday there was a point where Slater struck out at the player trying to score the try with his leg (an illegal move).

The channel 9 commentary team then went on to say they thought an 8 point try (potentially) was coming up as the player was fouled in the act of scoring.

I haven't got a copy of the rule book handy but I'm positive that a potential 8 point try can only be awarded if a foul is committed AFTER the try has been scored. My understanding of the rules is that if a foul occurs during the motion of the try being scored it's a penalty try (the difference being that a penalty try gives only the one shot at goal - albeit from in front of the posts).

Am I correct (and if so the entire channel 9 commentary team were wrong)? Or has this rule changed at some point?

The commentators got it right.

• If the ball is grounded and then the foul act is committed, then it is an 8-point try
• If the foul committed stops the try being scored/ball being ground, then it is a penalty try
• Ray Warren did mention that the Broncos player did not actually ground the ball, therefore the penalty try was correctly awarded.

 

[Raider_69]

I thought it looked to get grounded at some stage, but really with the kick from the absolute sideline it likely wouldn't have made a difference either way.

The most important thing is slater was actually penalised and then charged for it (even if he wont miss a week)

would be a complete and utter disgrace if he wasnt charged and sat down for at least one week. I complete joke infact
I dont know who the storm are playing next but after that thoughtless act of violence he needs to made to sit out at least 1 week.
Minimum a week for sure, definitely shouldnt be allowed to play against who ever the storm have next week;-)

 

[Johns Magic]

Haha.

He has officially escaped suspension though if he cops the early guilty plea.

 

[Raider_69]

f**k...

 

[Eels Dude]

This leading with the feet rule the NRL brought in last year has heavily increased the amount of 8 point tries. They used to happen once in a blue moon but there were heaps last year. Merritt on Reddy, Hindy on Thurston, Hayne on Goodwin, Gibbs on Burt... that's just off the top of my head.

 

[Rovelli]

Bryce Gibbs flopped on Burt for that 8-point try IIRC..changed the game too.

Slater was the guy who started this in the 2008 Grand Final in his vain attempts to stop Manly from winning 40-0. It's dangerous and shouldn't be in the game.

 

[thorson1987]

would be a complete and utter disgrace if he wasnt charged and sat down for at least one week. I complete joke infact
I dont know who the storm are playing next but after that thoughtless act of violence he needs to made to sit out at least 1 week.
Minimum a week for sure, definitely shouldnt be allowed to play against who ever the storm have next week;-)

Haha.

He has officially escaped suspension though if he cops the early guilty plea.

f**k...

Yep, take the plea and run rings around the raiders on saturday night.

 

[Raider_69]

that prick always plays so well against us too

 

[cornerposter]

but really with the kick from the absolute sideline it likely wouldn't have made a difference either way.

Gee I dunno, Parker had his boots on this weekend.

would be a complete and utter disgrace if he wasnt charged and sat down for at least one week. I complete joke infact
I dont know who the storm are playing next but after that thoughtless act of violence he needs to made to sit out at least 1 week.
Minimum a week for sure, definitely shouldnt be allowed to play against who ever the storm have next week;-)

geez, way to exaggerate.

 

[Patsy]

was slater sinbinned - if it is a foul that prevents a try it should mean 10 in the bin as well.

 

[Raider_69]

geez, way to exaggerate.

Way to miss the point

 

[cornerposter]

Way to miss the point

yeah, didn't realise they play the Raiders next week