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born an eel

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Didn't he admit on the weekend that he can't afford to keep this Byron Bay holiday home he purcashed last year? I'd assume that's where the cash flow problem lies. That's what happens when you buy a place for 1.9 million dollars. Eyes are bigger than one's stomach.
he was quoted as such on the weekend, explaining that that was some of the conflict he had with the real estate. There was some mention of quarenteed rental income or the like that never eventuated, thus he could not afford the payments and had it on the market
 

Gronk

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Allegedly because the agent did him over. Not exactly his fault if true.

I think the complaint was that the Agent made certain representations about rental potential. In the meantime the bank was asking questions because Ozzie was not meeting his basic mortgage obligations.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Didn't he admit on the weekend that he can't afford to keep this Byron Bay holiday home he purcashed last year? I'd assume that's where the cash flow problem lies. That's what happens when you buy a place for 1.9 million dollars. Eyes are bigger than one's stomach.

Mate, how do you know what he can afford?

If the place had lived up to its occupancy guarantee (over which the real estate agent lost her licence) then he would have had no problem holding the property.

Debt on investment properties is a lot cheaper than a family home, since someone else - the tenant - pays a chunk of it. And that doesn't include the gearing opportunities.

Anyway, it looks like the Byron Bay joint was a dud investment, and the real estate agent took the fall for that one.

Also, I agree Osborne's finances are none of our business, but these details were made public by Osborne himself so he's obviously happy for us to know these particulars.
 

Gronk

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So allegedly the agent did him over?

Apparently, but rental potential is very much caveat emptor. Who would believe a Real Estate Agent ? I guess he might have a claim if there were claims/guarantees made in advertising.
 

Bigfella

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Even if he does, the Supreme Court will need Ozzie to show that he has the capacity of paying all costs against him if he loses. It's a scary thought that you are putting that family house on the chopping block.

Again, I call bullshit. It's not the sort of case a man with 9 kids wants to do. Singo would not be losing a wink of sleep.[/

Not for a case commenced by an individual. Security for costs is only applied to companies.
 

Gronk

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Even if he does, the Supreme Court will need Ozzie to show that he has the capacity of paying all costs against him if he loses. It's a scary thought that you are putting that family house on the chopping block.

Again, I call bullshit. It's not the sort of case a man with 9 kids wants to do. Singo would not be losing a wink of sleep.

Not for a case commenced by an individual. Security for costs is only applied to companies.

OK thanks, Still a ballsy move.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Apparently, but rental potential is very much caveat emptor.

Not in every case.

Who would believe a Real Estate Agent ? I guess he might have a claim if there were claims/guarantees made in advertising.

Don't forget the agent lost her licence, meaning there has been a serious breach of whichever Act real estate agents sign up to.

If anyone's eyes were too big for their belly, it is a real estate agent that was too quick to make guarantees in the face of a fat commission.
 

mickdo

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Anyway, here's what the trusty SMH had to say about the agent:

Sarah Dougan, the real estate agent who sold Mr Osborne the house, is under investigation by the Department of Fair Trading after $550,000 was discovered missing from her trust account in July. In August, a fortnight before she was made bankrupt, Ms Dougan placed a caveat on Mr Osborne's Massinger Street house, claiming she ''caused monies to be paid towards the purchase price'' and was seeking ''the repayment of the said monies''.

Mr Osborne said he had been ripped off by Ms Dougan and was pursuing her through the Department of Fair Trading.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/crisis-rocks-parramatta-club-as-director-quits-20111014-1lpac.html

And:

Osborne's financial situation has been made public, including the recent purchase of a holiday home in Byron Bay. Asked how a club boss could afford a $1.9 million retreat, he replied: ''It's a great house but I can't afford it. It's up for sale.

''Clearly it's placed pressure on us financially. I bought the property in Byron Bay when undertakings were taken on rent and other things that weren't met. I'm dealing with the office of fair trading and with the police in relation to the matter and that's all I can say at this time. The real estate agent in question has been stripped of her licence subject to an inquiry. We're assisting [inquiries].''

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/i-have-done-nothing-wrong-says-eels-chief-20111022-1mdl1.html
 
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Poupou Escobar

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I've gotta say, none of the information so far makes clear who has ripped whom off.

But if she's lost her real estate licence then it doesn't look good for her. Then again, if she's lost it due to another matter it could have made her vulnerable in any other negotiations she was engaged in.

We're probably doing the wrong thing speculating about it all, as Suity has said.
 

Suitman

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I've gotta say, none of the information so far makes clear who has ripped whom off.

But if she's lost her real estate licence then it doesn't look good for her. Then again, if she's lost it due to another matter it could have made her vulnerable in any other negotiations she was engaged in.

We're probably doing the wrong thing speculating about it all, as Suity has said.

No, no, no. We should all judge him on the information provided to us by the media.

Suity
 

mickdo

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http://www.northernstar.com.au/story/2011/07/08/ritzy-agents-accounts-missing-million/

TRUST accounts held by the now defunct Byron Bay real estate agency Belle Property are missing more than half a million dollars, the Department of Fair Trading has revealed.

The department last night called for clients of the agency to come forward, saying its investigation into the property had so far found trust account “deficiencies” of more than $550,000.

Belle Property Byron Bay closed last week and Fair Trading seized the agency’s business records after the Belle Property Group, which franchised the Byron business to Sarah Dougan, contacted the department to say it had found “anomalies” in the agency’s trust accounts.

Belle Property Group has since terminated its franchise agreement with Ms Dougan.

Fair Trading has appointed its own independent manager to oversee the wind-down of the business and has interviewed several people involved with the agency.

No charges have been laid against Ms Dougan, who has returned to Sydney. Ms Dougan’s partly-built home at Skinners Shoot is being sold at a mortgagee auction through the Ballina McGrath agency.

Fair Trading Commissioner Rod Stowe urged Belle Byron Bay’s clients to contact the department “as a matter of urgency” on 13 32 20.

“In particular, this applies to anyone who may have booked a holiday rental, purchased a property or entered into a lease,” Mr Stowe said.

Clients who lost money from trust accounts with the agency were able to apply to the Property Services Compensation Fund.

Claims to the fund must be made within 12 months of the client becoming aware of an issue and must be made in writing to the fund’s director general.
 

oldmancraigy

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Apparently, but rental potential is very much caveat emptor. Who would believe a Real Estate Agent ? I guess he might have a claim if there were claims/guarantees made in advertising.

rental potential and rental guarantee are very different matters.
 
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