A Natural Death???

[legend]

Guys, sorry for my belated response but I need to throw in my two cents worth.

During the day, the company I work for have a ban on ninemsn communites which means I can only access LWOS outside work hours and when I get home, I'm usually up to my ears in website stuff. Nature of the beast with a growing site. This is something beyond my control and we doknow ninemsn will eventually start charging $$$ for these communities. They have already started by charging people for extra memory on their hotmail accounts.

There is a new forum sitting idle with exactly the same forums as the current front row and Willow, Ozbash and myself agreed we will transfer the post count of all members to the new forums as well as as many threads as we can so no one will have to start from scratch.

I like the current front row but I'm not fussed on some of the more "gimmicky" things the php forums have to offer, the main two being private messaging and signature files. But, I feel I am in the minority and a lot of people will utilise the extra features the php forum has to offer.

Another very important factor that cannot be overlooked is the site issues we had with our hosting company over the ASP forum a few weeks back. We have virtually been guaranteed a php forum will load faster and have no coding or "leakage" issues.

I hope that answers a few questions guys.

 

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[Willow]

btw,Bronco. Nothing has been confirmed just yet. We're still looking at ways to do things your way. This is why we have all those thousands of boring emails.

 

[imported_kier]

Well - I've tried to post in TFR both at work and at home, and I've been told that my username/password are incorrect. (and yes, I have joined TFR, not just hoped that my LWOS details would automatically work!)

Any ideas?

As for Lord Ted's origional post......I hope he's wrong and that this forum isn't heading for extinction. Over the years I've noticed the number of posts ebb and flow - there doesn't seem to be anything that perculiar about this current "dry patch".

As for individuals coming and going - that too has always happened - sometimes they return (and are most welcome) - somtimes they don't (and good luck to them )

As for my opinion on the relative merits of TFR and LWOS I much prefer the system here where the "All Topics" option allows an overview of the wide range of topics that get discussed. I'm not keen on the "fragmented" feeling I get when I view forums in the style of TFR.

I like the fact that trivia questions are right next to discussions of RL, history, debates about State of Origin and opinions on political systems.

 

[Willow]

kier: "I've tried to post in TFR both at work and at home, and I've been told that my username/password are incorrect. "
A lot of people are tried to join or login to TFR by using their 'Club League' details which a separate part of the website.
TFR is actually very easy to access. You have to register in the TFR section. If you've done that, then we more specifics. Perhaps send me your details, and I'll look into it.

"Over the years I've noticed the number of posts ebb and flow - there doesn't seem to be anything that perculiar about this current "dry patch". "
Thats myview as well.

 

[CanadianSteve]

As for my opinion on the relative merits of TFR and LWOS I much prefer the system here where the "All Topics" option allows an overview of the wide range of topics that get discussed. I'm not keen on the "fragmented" feeling I get when I view forums in the style of TFR.

I like the fact that trivia questions are right next to discussions of RL, history, debates about State of Origin and opinions on political systems. - Kier #24

Kier, you've expressed exactly how I feel about the 2 forums. I like the wide range of topics here, and the fact you can see them all at once in the All Topics page. I respect all the work being done at TFR/LU, and I mean no offense to those doing that work, but I still prefer LWOS, and hope it can bounce back. I hope Kier and Willow are right that this is just a dry patch and not a permanent decline.

I guess the best thing to do is to get posting here more and not spend more time analyzing things on this thread.

 

[ozbash]

i dunno steve, i think its good to have a good old analyze at time. this affects every member here and it shouldbe thrashed out.
i know what people mean when they talk about LWOS, being a member of this board and being a LWOS poster actually evokes a bit of good old fashioned tribalism imo.
look out anyone who attacks our forum, we stick up for each other (3-400 each others) through thick and thin. we become very loyal.

then someone suggests we up sticks and move !!

there are plusses and minusses in the move,, at the moment on the front row there are not many posting regular (tho there are a few more of late) and i have spent most of my time arguing with my wife and bronco.
i have run out of raiders abuse for legend and kaon.
but if (and when) we get it sorted out so everyone feels at home,it will be just like "the good old days".

people hate change. i have seen the forums change 4 times since i have been mixed up with these guys, usually you hate it to start off with but then you start getting used to it. which brings me to my point....

its not the board,, its the people.

i dont come here because i like msn, i come here to talk to you guys.

 

[CanadianSteve]

I'm trying to figure out which side you're on Ozbash

I can see the point of LU, that you guys want to do the journalism thing and have your own reports on RL news, scores, etc.But as a forum, I think LWOS is better than Front Row, it just seems easier to get around in, and not so chopped up into sections as Front Row is.

 

[Willow]

Geeeezus Steve. For months now we've had complaints from people about the Nine Msn boards.... you included. Thats not to say that its an issue but you'd think the setting up of a new forum would be more than just the 'you guys want to do the journalism thing'. Give us a little more credit than that.

Its not a battle between the two boards.... its a personal choice. Ofcourse there are those whowant to be extroverts on both formats... I know I am. If you prefer LWOS, then thats great. I like it here as well.

But in all honesty, TFR isnt that difficult. Even Lord Ted made a post there. (no offence Ted.... ).

 

[Vertigo]

But as a forum, I think LWOS is better than Front Row, it just seems easier to get around in, and not so chopped up into sections as Front Row is.

That's why I'm more than content to remain here. If however, members dostart departing these boards in favour of the FR sometime in the future (aswas the caseform the WORL to LWOS) then I too will make the transition. I don't want to be like One Eye, and initiate topics and replies to myself.

Until that time, I'm real confortable here.
V.

 

[CanadianSteve]

Thats not to say that its an issue but you'd think the setting up of a new forum would be more than just the 'you guys want to do the journalism thing'. Give us a little more credit than that.

I thought I had taken pains not to give offense or put down what you're doing. What I meant was I can see why you wanted to start League Unlimited, because you (those involved) want to do your own reporting on RL. That's cool. What more credit than that do you want?

My following point, which Vertigo seems to agree with, is that as far as forums go I still prefer the format, atmosphere, etc of LWOS to what I've seen of the FR.

BTW, I don't think I've ever really complained about MSN, though I agree with those who say it would be nice to have an edit function. Also, I do check in from time to time on the NFL quiz section of Front Row, just so you know I'm taking my moderator responsibilty seriously.But there's not much happening there so far.

Having said all that, I recognize that I am kind of on the fringes here as far as RL discussion, because I can't see the games on TV. So I know that whichever way the hard-core RL followers go, FR or LWOS, that's the way it will be.

 

[CanadianSteve]

Well, I looked around TFR a bit and even posted a new topic in the NRL section.

Who is the guy named Eli de Celis, listed as the LU webmaster? Is he an LWOS regular?

 

[Willow]

Steve, Eli is indeed the webmaster and resident whiz kid.
He has never posted on LWOS.

 

[imported_Lord Ted.]

Willow,
"Even Lord Ted made a post there".
I was very amused and certainly not offended.
I make no secret of my computer dunceness.
I will also say that this thread has in a minor way, reassured me that the LWOS will remain a going concern.I do think though that the drop off in posts is a bit more that seasonally adjusted figures so to speak.
I will have to make a better effort and start some threads on some of the topical affairs or whatever.

 

[CanadianSteve]

I will also say that this thread has in a minor way, reassured me that the LWOS will remain a going concern

I agree, Ted, and I have noticed a pickup in LWOS posts the last few days. I hope that's not just wishful thinking. It was always quality over quantity here, but I hope the quantity can go back up a bit.

 

[imported_midas]

I have to admit that as a techernogical dimwit I am more comfortable with this site but when I get more time (which could be this week if this @&*!?% rain keeps up in the Jewel of the Pacific) I will work out how to set up those logos,emblems and mottos
Then again if I cock the whole thing up,I will refuse to admit it and remain here.

 

[imported_Trojan Horse]

For those who have expressed the benefitial feature of an "ALL MESSAGES" viewing ability of this and NMSN Communities, please be aware that the new LU forum has a very similar feature. Actually i think it's far more benefitial in some ways.
The new LU forum has a "View posts since last visit" page. This is an incredibly handy feature in many ways. Especially for those who don't/cannot frequent as often as some others. As long as the "cookies" on your PC are not cleared (as I see the new forum doesn't give you that feature under a users "profile" setting), you will have the ability to not miss a single post since your last visit to that page. A priceless feature. This community has a simple feature, but I don't believe it has the "personal" feel of the one LU provides.
But also, as I just made refrence to on a post at LU, a search engine on phpBB forum is a neccessity. Especially as the forum grows. Admin's and Mod's may want to take notice.
The new forum also has added "personal" features like "View your posts" and "View unanswered posts."
Give it time good people. You'll appreciate the benifts only then.

 

[imported_Trojan Horse]

Missprint:
"This community has a similar feature, but I don't believe it has the "personal" feel of the one LU provides."
That's what happens when the most usefull and neccesary feature on a chat forumhas been neglected on MSN Communities. No edit function. Absolutely ridiculous!
But not the LU forum

 

[Willow]

Trojan: "But also, as I just made refrence to on a post at LU, a search engine on phpBB forum is a neccessity. Especially as the forum grows. Admin's and Mod's may want to take notice."

We actually already have a search engine on LU but it searches the whole www. I'm sure it can be incorporated to refine the search to just the local League Unlimited domain as well. Its now on the 'to do' list.

btw, thanks for pointing out all those other features.

 

[TheSaint]

The reason why this forum may be slowing down is many of the participants have been posting for so long. I used to post daily on a few sites, now I might look at the forums once a week.The slowing down isprobably more to do with the length of time most members have been posting for. The majority of people here posted for a year or more on WORL before Legends and are veterans of the forums. It's old age setting in and I'm only 22!