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Adamant Burraston refuses to back down on belief NRL picking on club

Pumba

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Adamant Burraston refuses to back down on belief NRL picking on club
BY BRETT KEEBLE

NEWCASTLE remain offside with the game's officials after Knights CEO Steve Burraston and NRL referees coach Robert Finch traded more barbs yesterday.

The NRL fined Burraston $5000 on Monday, believing comments he made in The Herald that day had questioned the integrity and impartiality of referees.

Burraston said: "I think referees have a pre-conceived idea that we're an undisciplined club and we give a lot of penalties away, and they look for every minor thing that they can possibly penalise us on."

Refusing to back away from the controversy, Burraston said yesterday Finch's comments in several newspaper articles since only supported his belief that the Knights were not getting a fair go.

Burraston said that instead of explaining particular rulings, Finch had pointed to the fact that the Knights (130) had conceded more penalties than any other team in the NRL and Newcastle second-rower Chris Houston (19) was the NRL's most penalised player.

"I've got to be very careful what I say because I don't want to risk another fine and put myself into breach again," Burraston said last night.

"But Robert Finch's response over the last two days is exactly what I'm talking about, so I'll let him do the talking for me.

"He didn't talk about the referee or the game, he talked about the Newcastle team having the problem and that we need to have a look at ourselves, and he also spoke about Chris Houston as having a problem the previous week with the referee at Penrith."

Asked if he or the referees had a problem with Newcastle, Finch said: "Absolutely not."

"That's absolute rubbish," said Finch, who hails from Maitland and is a former Knights lower-grade coach. "The only reason I trotted that out is because he [Burraston] trotted his out, so I was only responding to that. He can think what he likes."

Finch is in the process of responding to several rulings Knights coach Brian Smith wants clarified from Newcastle's 16-13 loss to Cronulla last Saturday.

The Knights lost the penalty count 11-6 it was 6-2 in the second half and Smith said they did not receive a penalty from referee Tony Archer in the final 35 minutes of the game. The main concern was a penalty against Chris Bailey on opposite number Brett Seymour in the 58th minute, from which Luke Covell kicked the Sharks to a 14-13 lead.

Smith believed Seymour was at fault for knocking Bailey to the ground as he rose to play the ball. Finch acknowledged Seymour did grab Bailey's legs and dragged him down but said Bailey made the first indiscretion.

"That's true. But prior to that, the tackle is made, Bailey makes the tackle, spins on the tackle, goes to a bear-hug and then puts his hand on the ball," Finch said.

Asked if Archer made the right decision, Finch said: "Exactly right."

"That player [Seymour] who created momentum deserved a quick play-the-ball," he said. "He didn't deserve to get tackled, then spun on, then bear-hugged, then hand on the football. That's my answer to that one."

Apart from being the NRL's most penalised team, the Knights (92) have received less penalties than any other team this season, and that frustrated Smith more than anything.

"We sought clarification on a whole heap of things about our performance earlier on in the year. We've addressed those on a regular basis, we've taken steps in terms of selection, we've coached our players up and we recognise that we still need to do more," Smith said.

"We were disappointed that four of the penalties that we conceded on the weekend were down to the ill-discipline of our players.

"But a number of others we believe were just incorrect rulings, in some cases, or at worst 50-50 calls, and you expect to get some of those in any game of footy.

"As I understand, still nobody in the rugby league world has come to me to say how we can actually get more penalties."

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Adsy

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Wow.

Finch is really trying to be the most hated man in Newcastle. Good on him.

Tosser.
 

otori

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Might as well try and make the bastard accountable. That's the problem with Finch. It's like nailing jelly to the wall.
 
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Gets tally sheet out and scores games this week for every player thats entitled to get a quick play the ball!!! melbourne with their 4 man tackles should be penalised throught the freakin roof!
 

Karmawave

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Ironically, Finchy was a bloody good football coach years ago. How easy it is to forget the frustrations of being a coach when you become head of the opposition - referees.
 
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There shouldnt be a reason...im sure we do deserve probably 90% of the penalties we do get.The problem is that the opposition do exactly the same thing and dont get pinged for it.Then we seem to get some token penalties to try and square it up but its all relative to where you are on the field.
 

roopy

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My theory is that refs target players that are young and new to firstgrade in an attempt to get them to conform to 'standards'. Older players who the refs know well get away with a lot more.
We are suffering because most of our side are guys the refs all want to 'coach' into playing how they want them to play because they are newish to firstgrade. Jesse Royal is a very clean player, but the refs give him heaps because he dominates guys when he isn't supposed to in the refs minds. Heaps of older guys creep into the 10 like Houston, but the refs are only trying to 'cure' the new guy.
The refs give any new players into firstgrade lots of 'direction' by way of the whistle. We just happen to have most of our team in that real vunerable period between when the refs get to know thier names and when the refs get used to them - or between 10 and 50 games in firstgrade.
 

boltsy

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My theory is that refs target players that are young and new to firstgrade in an attempt to get them to conform to 'standards'. Older players who the refs know well get away with a lot more.
We are suffering because most of our side are guys the refs all want to 'coach' into playing how they want them to play because they are newish to firstgrade. Jesse Royal is a very clean player, but the refs give him heaps because he dominates guys when he isn't supposed to in the refs minds. Heaps of older guys creep into the 10 like Houston, but the refs are only trying to 'cure' the new guy.
The refs give any new players into firstgrade lots of 'direction' by way of the whistle. We just happen to have most of our team in that real vunerable period between when the refs get to know thier names and when the refs get used to them - or between 10 and 50 games in firstgrade.

I like the thoery but,
Dan Tolar 5
Corry P 8
Chris Bailey 5
Zeb Taia 8
 

Bring it home Knights

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What I've noticed is that other teams when they are tackled the players kick about whilst looking at the referee almost asking for a penalty. The knights don't seem to do this anywhere near as much as other clubs and this could be a large reason for the team receiving so few penalties against the opposition.
 

perverse

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What I've noticed is that other teams when they are tackled the players kick about whilst looking at the referee almost asking for a penalty. The knights don't seem to do this anywhere near as much as other clubs and this could be a large reason for the team receiving so few penalties against the opposition.
pika explained why that is on here once... i can't remember the exact details but it was something along the lines of it being an inefficient use of a players energy in the match.

i'm starting to not believe that though... i mean 3 penalties can be worth around 100 run metres at the end of the day.
 

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