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AFL Finals Week 2

dougthelegend

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Geelong Cats Vs Essendon Bombers (18)

Real 50-50 game. Sheedy is a real master come finals time, and Bomber Thompson, is a relative novice when it comes to finals. Essendons finals experience will shine through in the end (i really hope so - im going to be there, part of the the Essendon Grog Squad :D)

St Kilda Saints Vs Sydney Swans

cant see the saints losing this game, even if it is at the MCG. That said, they will be belted well and truly into 2005 by Port Adelaide the following week.
 

CyberKev

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Geelong vs Essendon (24)

This Essendon side ranks as arguably the most unimpressive and fortunate finalist in VFL/AFL history and they rode that luck well last week, falling across the line despite being the lesser side during key moments during the match. Will the luck run dry? Yes, but I don't expect it to happen this week, alas. In real terms, this Geelong side is the better outfit, but they clearly struggled mentally with the pressure of the cauldron last week and may struggle to assert themselves against a steady and experienced opponent here. The Cats did show encouraging signs during the third quarter at AAMI, but will have to produce that in the opening quarter to win the day here. The Cats are a more physical side than Essendon, which will be vulnerable in this area, and the Cats also possess a clear edge in foot speed. It was clear last week, however, that the Bombers can find poise in critical moments and, as ever, will get very favourable decisions at crucial times when playing at the MCG. This latter reality, coupled with the usual soft goals that eminate from the inevitable Lloyd diveathon will ensure that Essendon starts the game with a 4-5 goal+ advantage, and that's too big an ask for a relatively raw Geelong side to overcome.

St Kilda vs Sydney (26)

The Saints started the season on fire, but it certainly tapered-off during the latter stages, and while they still should have better times to look forward to, I suspect it'll be a black day for the club come Sunday. Sydney is essentially an unremarkable side, but they are ahead of every side in the competition in terms of the tight-knit team approach and spirit that they bring to their games. It is also noted that the team maintains a solid and steady level of performance no matter the opponent or situation. St Kilda would rightly argue that they have far superior firepower and could blow Sydney off the map were everything to click on the night. I just feel that they have forwards who are mono-dimensional (in physical play terms) and susceptible to mental stress, which leads to them being shut down too often against big opponents in big games. Even when at its most complex, football is a game best kept simple, and this represents St Kilda's best chance to win tonight. Their only chance is to play long direct football and hope that Riewoldt & Gehrig hold more marks than they drop. Sydney will play high possession, flank journey football, and if St Kilda follows suit then they have zero chance of winning this game.

In essence, I'm suggesting that the lesser sides will win both matches, ostensibly because they're better suited and conditioned to finals football (at this point in time). Would be happy to be proven wrong over the weekend though.

CyberKev
 

lockyno1

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Essendon, Sydney

Both games will be closer than most people think. Geelong will have a go but with the loss of key players it will be tough to beat Essendon, who despite coming 8th have 4 home finals (MCG every week, including the GF if they make it).

Sydney will beat StKilda by around 3 goals, I just can't see them stopping Hall, O'Locklin, Schneider, etc (they just don't have enough quailty defenders). Also without Hamill they struggle for that muscle in the midfield. I am tipping St Kilda to win the flag next year, so this final series will be a learning experience. However, Sydney just will be too good.

I tell you, if you want to see Brisbane beaten in the GF then Sydney better beat Port Adelaide, becuase they have one of the better records against Brisbane over the past 4 years! Otherwise Brisbane will win 4 in a row :(
 

meltiger

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St Kilda
Geelong

Although Essendon are running on the sick chance of making a GF with a nothing side. Against a GF newcomer in Port/Saints/Sydney - They could very well walk away with an undeserved premiership :(
 

meltiger

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lockyno1 said:
I tell you, if you want to see Brisbane beaten in the GF then Sydney better beat Port Adelaide, becuase they have one of the better records against Brisbane over the past 4 years! Otherwise Brisbane will win 4 in a row :(

Rather see Brisbane equal Collingwoods record than watch the Sydney Swans win a premiership.
 

Cupid Stunt

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Once again the cancerous call that is my tip strikes again. Sydney stank & now, I'm sorry to say, Geelong will go down in a blaze akin to a disposable lighter. On a brighter note I have backed, publicly, Brisbane to take it all so all you Lions fans are absoloutly ******! :lol:
 

meltiger

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Cupid Stunt said:
Sydney stank

Yes, yes they did.

Suck shit Sydney fans, all your salary cap advantages & the AFL ensuring you get every player you want (If Crawford ends up at the Swans the competition is a f**king joke) and you cannot even beat a perennial underachieving club in a final. Go Saints :) :)
 

meltiger

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dougthelegend said:
im going to be there, part of the the Essendon Grog Squad :D

Bunch of pussys compared to the bogans who make up the Richmond Grog Squad. Many a time have the Essendon wankers been out cheered and out sung :)
 

CyberKev

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meltiger said:
Cupid Stunt said:
Sydney stank

Yes, yes they did.

Suck sh*t Sydney fans, all your salary cap advantages & the AFL ensuring you get every player you want (If Crawford ends up at the Swans the competition is a f***ing joke) and you cannot even beat a perennial underachieving club in a final. Go Saints :) :)


1) I'm not convinced that Sydney has had major salary cap advantages, unlike Brisbane.

2) If Sydney has got every player its wanted from the AFL then its recruting staff needs to be lined-up and shot. The Sydney list is a plodding one, and it is amazing that the club has performed as well as it has given the deficiencies apparent. Leo Barry is a prime case in point... He is a fine player of a halfback flank and could fill-in at CHB if need be, but he is not at all equipped for holding down fullback. Sydney reminds me of Collingwood, a club that also got the maximum out of a minimal list, but Collingwood will be a genuine spoon contender next season, and the ageing, tiring Sydney list could be rapidly heading in the same downward direction.

3) While I've always held Crawford in suitably high regard, I suspect that Hawthorn would be wise to pursue a trade, as they also should for Joel Smith, if both players fail to show adequate committment to the club over the ensuing fortnight. That being said, I think Sydney would be off its rocker, as would any other club, to shell out for a player with injury concerns, on the wrong side of 30, and regularly expressing a desire to retire sooner rather than later.

CyberKev
 

CyberKev

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Well, I couldn't have been much wronger with my prediction for this weekend's matches...

Happy to have been proved wrong though, in any case.

Essendon's defeat could not have happened to a more deserving bunch, and it may be that we have seen Kevin Sheedy's last finals appearance, given the fraying state of the Essendon squad.

A fab win to St Kilda who defied all the portents to nail Sydney with a stronger and more talented brand of football.

In an ideal world we would get a Saints vs Gats decider, but I fear that Port and Brisbane will tear such illusions asunder come the preliminaries.

CyberKev
 

meltiger

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CyberKev said:
In an ideal world we would get a Saints vs Gats decider, but I fear that Port and Brisbane will tear such illusions asunder come the preliminaries.

Not if St Kilda can get some run out of the midfield. As good Port are, I don't think even they could stop Nicky R having a field day on AAMI Stadium if the St Kilda midfield stand up. Which is exactly what they did last week against the closest checking midfield in the comp.

If you can produce a ton of ball against Sydney's mob of taggers, you can do it against anyone. I'm hoping for and expecting the game of the series so far on Friday night.

Port Adelaide will certainly need to earn their way into the GF. Not saying they can't do it as they are a great team, just don't think this is going to be an easy one for them.
 

meltiger

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In saying all that, I think Thomas would be better of leaving Hamil out. He is a champion but if his knee fails him, they are going to be a man down on the bench in an away prelim.

Leave him out until the GF.
 

CyberKev

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meltiger said:
Port Adelaide will certainly need to earn their way into the GF. Not saying they can't do it as they are a great team, just don't think this is going to be an easy one for them.

I don't disagree...

Mind you, the Saints should also feel nervous about Port getting good drive out of its midfield. I feel that the Saints defence is very much its Achilles Heel and no other side in the comp can generate as much free run as Port can, particularly in the comfortable surrounds of AAMI. Tredrea and Lade are more than capable of landing strong return blows if it turns into a shoot out.

Should be a clarrie-gripper... Shame I'll be watching DVDs instead :(

CyberKev
 

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