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Alex Mckinnon To Sue

ed-grimley

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Tommy Smith said:
Tackling is an instinctive 'heat of the moment' action.

Punching is completely different as you have time to consider your actions.

A punch, unlike a tackle, can't go wrong. You either choose to punch or not.

No player I believe chooses to spear tackle.

Big difference.
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Yeah, but some people make that choice difficult.
 
Perth Red

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Ps I dont think the nrl has done nearly enough to get proper spear tackles out of the game, there has been some shockers that have only got one or two weeks since that injury, that is just wrong. I'd have no problem with send offs for those that do go way above the horizontal and drop a player on their head.
 
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Perth Red said:
Ps I dont think the nrl has done nearly enough to get proper spear tackles out of the game, there has been some shockers that have only got one or two weeks since that injury, that is just wrong. I'd have no problem with send offs for those that do go way above the horizontal and drop a player on their head.
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The problem is when a star drops someone on his head the week before Origin and consistency goes out the window.
 
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Perth Red said:
Not blaming him, just saying it is an unfortunate set of conditions that is incredibly rare but not possible to ever say would not happen again regardless of the rules or punishments.

If you were going to be totally risk averse to minimise the chances you would ban three men tackles as that was really the key contributing factor.

google "Maclean spear tackle" and look at the last couple of photos of the tackle He is barely passed the horizontal and its head tucked with forward momentum of all that weight on him that snapped his neck.
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just ban lifting tackles all together

They don't add one thing to the game
 
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El Diablo said:
it's a lot easier to think about not throwing a punch as that's intentional

i seriously doubt any player intentionally lifts a player in order to drop him on his head
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I doubt that too.

They absolutely intentionally lift in the tackle though, and that is much easier to stop. A blanket penalty for anyone lifting at all in a gang tackle, and an immediate sin bin for any tackler that lifts past the horizontal. 2 lifting sin bins in a season is an automatic week on the sidelines (on top of any suspension you may get from the lifting tackle itself)

If players don't change their style after that you just bump it up to a send off. Coaches will soon have their players tackling differently.

People may say this will damage the game, but imo it will lead to a return to traditional legs tackling as you'll have to actually chop a man down instead of just ganging up, stopping their momentum, and then some someone grabs a leg and tosses them to the ground (otherwise known as the Bellamy technique)
 
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NrlVader

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Mckinnon should just get on with his life. All this anger and wanting revenge will do no good for his soul.
 
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There was a time when you would lift in a one on one tackle and drive the player backwards and land him on his back. You cannot hurt a guy like this. If ever it went wrong and the ball carrier got speared it was an intentional act and the tackler was at fault as he had complete control. But since the evolution of the gang tackle in the last 15 years or so, the lifting is just downright dangerous as the lifter has no control of what the other tacklers are doing on the upper half of the ball carrier.

Call me a bit old school, but I dont see a problem with lifting, I see a problem with 3 men in the tackle every single time.
 
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I dont see him winning. It so hard to sue the nrl. Firstly, the nrl would have known that this would happened which I highly doubt they could have foresaw and a freak accident hardly ever comes to a payout. I just dont want to see the nrl pull out of giving him a job, which I could see happening. I could see a meeting saying if you take this to court, you will no longer will be welcome in nrl hq
 
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Wests is Best said:
Call me a bit old school, but I dont see a problem with lifting, I see a problem with 3 men in the tackle every single time.
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Isn't this part of the evolution of the game? Seeing as tackles around the boot laces aren't rewarded everyone has moved to wrestling, 3 man tackles to slow momentum.

I'm with you, love a legal lifted tackle akin to what we saw 'back in the day' driving them into the ground on their backs. Usually one on one.

Happy for lifting to be banned, add it to shoulder charge ban, potential 3+ man tackles ban and there's a huge shift fundamentally in how the game is defended.

How do you defend somebody like kasiano who could carry 4 blokes?
If two can't bring him down he can run forever, or some merkin taps out and another defender chimes in?

Could be interesting actually!
 
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I do feel for McKinnon but I do feel he was trying to win a penalty, he sprung off 1 leg and ducked his head, we were seeing it alot around that period. Inglis was bad for it, Josh Reynolds, just a couple off the top of my head.
 
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