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All Black To Train With Knights - interesting

playdaball

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The All Blacks may have handed Newcastle a potential replacement for Andrew Johns in New Zealand halfback Piri Weepu.
Weepu will next week start pre-season training with the Knights after the New Zealand Rugby Union organised a week-long, cross-code stint.
The 23-year-old, who will arrive in Newcastle on Saturday, has a strong league background and has already shown a desire to play in the NRL.
But the NZRU has little concern about placing him in the rival code's hands, or with a club needing to fill the giant hole of Johns's pending retirement.
The Knights last year flagged their interest in talking with Weepu but that hasn't stopped senior NZ officials and All Blacks coaches approving the stint.
Weepu is one of 22 All Blacks being rested from the first half of the Super 14 to condition themselves perfectly for a tilt at lifting the World Cup for the first time in 20 years.
New Zealand backs coach Wayne Smith, a friend of new Knights coach Brian Smith, suggested the novel approach on the basis of league's intense training, Weepu's interest in the game and Johns's involvement.
"We were quite flattered. It's a feather in the club's cap and in Brian Smith's cap," Newcastle chief executive Ken Conway told AAP.
"(Weepu) said he was keen to come over here and train under a different environment and train under Brian Smith and perhaps chew the fat with Andrew Johns."
The 2007 season is expected to be former Test skipper Johns' swan song in the NRL and youngster Jarrod Mullen is earmarked to take his playmaking role.
While Conway six months ago said the club was interested in negotiating with Weepu, he now denies any "ulterior motives".
"There's been no formal or informal discussions and I don't anticipate, unless he brings the topic up, there will be," he said.
The 15-Test halfback is contracted to the NZRU and Hurricanes until the end of 2008 but only last season left the door open for switching codes after the World Cup in France.
"I still watch a lot of league at the weekend and I still feel that passion and desire to be a part of it," he told NZ's Sunday News in July.
"I guess we'll see how things go next year and, hopefully, I'll be a part of the squad and do well.
"I'm just waiting for the time and, when I'm ready to go, I'll go."
Weepu's older brother Billy played as a forward for Manly and he grew up playing league for Wellington club Wainuiomata, which has produced the likes of John Lomax, Paul Whatuira and Tana Umaga.
NZRL board member and former Wainui coach Ken Laban, whose son Hanan played Jersey Flegg for Newcastle last year, has been a conduit for Weepu's stint with the Knights.
Weepu will stay with Hanan at the residence of former Knights chairman Michael Hill and Laban expects Knights players will get into the "excited" Hurricane's ear about a switch for 2008.
"It's naive to suggest that they won't but I'd be very surprised if he entertained any thought of it at this stage of his rugby union career," he said.
"It's a great opportunity for Piri to be alongside Joey and in a different environment.
"He's a very similar type of player. He's very aggressive, very robust and has a bit of skill.
"It will be good for him and I'm sure Joey will enjoy his company."
© 2007 AAP
http://www.foxsports.com.au/league

Come back to RL Piri.
 

Sharkie™

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I remember reading an article on him either last year or the year before expressing a desire to play RL and he singled out the knights as a team he would like to play for especially with Joey retireing in the next year or so.
 
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Weepu would struggle at half back in NRL...he is quite large for a halfback and his pace is not great.

Would be effective at hooker.
 

gunnamatta bay

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Interesting no one seems to have mentioned Tiquri being sent home from the Wallabies training squad due to a ' lack of fitness '. Could it be more like a ' lack of interest ' ?
 

Choppies

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To London Bridge is falling down
Rugby Unions falling down falling down falling down
Rugby Unions falling down poor leather patchies.
 

LeagueXIII

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I wonder if a first grade CLUB side would send their players to RU training to get fit and learn some skills?

In Alan Jones' book he says coaching first grade RL is the equivilant to an All Blacks-Wallabies test EVERY week. Shows where the real challenge is.
 

playdaball

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LeagueXIII said:
I wonder if a first grade CLUB side would send their players to RU training to get fit and learn some skills?

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I'm sure that Brian Smith attended the All Blacks training at some stage. Same applies to Daniel Anderson.
 
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gunnamatta bay said:
Interesting no one seems to have mentioned Tiquri being sent home from the Wallabies training squad due to a ' lack of fitness '. Could it be more like a ' lack of interest ' ?

Lack of interest ??...the Wannabies are a certainty to win the World Cup..:lol:
 

griff

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It's a bit silly the Knights are playing it down so much. Imagine if it was an RL international training with a Super 14 side? The RU propaganda machine would be in overdrive and the partisan hacks would whip themselves into a mastabatory frenzy of "RL is dying" stories.
 

Woods99

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LeagueXIII said:
I wonder if a first grade CLUB side would send their players to RU training to get fit and learn some skills?

In Alan Jones' book he says coaching first grade RL is the equivilant to an All Blacks-Wallabies test EVERY week. Shows where the real challenge is.

Alan Jones coached first grade rugby league twenty years ago. Back then, there might have been a skerrick of truth in what he said. Rugby union was basically an amateur game back then.


He would not say that today. The All Blacks, in particular, are an exemplar of a highly trained, highly motivated squad, the likes of which are not seen in most international sports. They have a world-wide following, are widely praised and appreciated, have a wonderful tradition, and deserve all the accolades they get.


Roll on, 2007.
 

brendothejet

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Woods99 said:
Alan Jones coached first grade rugby league twenty years ago. Back then, there might have been a skerrick of truth in what he said. Rugby union was basically an amateur game back then.


He would not say that today. The All Blacks, in particular, are an exemplar of a highly trained, highly motivated squad, the likes of which are not seen in most international sports. They have a world-wide following, are widely praised and appreciated, have a wonderful tradition, and deserve all the accolades they get.


Roll on, 2007.

But still, Woods,

would any NRL club send their top player to a RU club for conditioning???

No.

Simply, no.
 

LeagueXIII

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I'm sure that Brian Smith attended the All Blacks training at some stage. Same applies to Daniel Anderson

What about the players? I agree this wouldn't happen. Union follows us not the other way around.
 

LeagueXIII

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Woods99 wrote:
Alan Jones coached first grade rugby league twenty years ago. Back then, there might have been a skerrick of truth in what he said. Rugby union was basically an amateur game back then.

And league was part time. Players worked. To say international players didn't get looked after through jobs etc is a joke. How did Campese go money wise?


He would not say that today. The All Blacks, in particular, are an exemplar of a highly trained, highly motivated squad, the likes of which are not seen in most international sports. They have a world-wide following, are widely praised and appreciated, have a wonderful tradition, and deserve all the accolades they get.

With an excellant propaganda machine behind them ie. the media. The myth has been built up over decades.
 
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griff said:
It's a bit silly the Knights are playing it down so much. Imagine if it was an RL international training with a Super 14 side? The RU propaganda machine would be in overdrive and the partisan hacks would whip themselves into a mastabatory frenzy of "RL is dying" stories.

warriors train with the blues nearly every year!
 
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