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carinashark

First Grade
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Before we all start with the self harm. We looked tired after last week but so did the Bunnies. Right up until 10min and 50seconds we were in this game and grinding away. 6 nil their way. After being stopped by a scrambling Sharks goal line defence the Bunnies go right with brilliant and lucky passing beating Moylan and Miller in the corner.
The problem for us in that set is that Tracy is not a center. He is a winger. He has spent most of the first half running at full speed into the Bunnies on coming defence. If he was on the wing he may have been able to stop the try.
Next year Tracy, Ronnie , Ikuvalu and Katoa should be our wingers. Miller , now not looking so fast back to the Jets.
Fitz will bring on the speed we need with Dykes and Iro next season.
This year we out performed , next year bar injuries we will go further.
 

Special K

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Issue #1 I see is backs depth. Iku was a tremendous purchase but went down for us at the worst possible time - I still think he gets that ball down at HT vs the Cowboys. Ronnie and Katoa have not finished a season together in the last two years. Talakai was a blessing at centre but if he did not step up we have a tremendous hole that we can't fill if he or Raimen is out. Imagine Sifa not breaking out vs Manly, Tracey would likely have been our starting centre most of the year. We need an out and out centre backing up our top 2 options. Someone like an Opacic, Momirovski type player who can step in do a job on the weeks required then get back out of the 17 like Iku can do on the wing while not chewing up cap space. Tracey should not be the first option for a position he is not a specialist in no matter how fit he is and how hard he goes. I can't see any centres in our lower grades. I can see some wingers and obviously fullbacks but we need to go to market here.

Issue #2 Small ball. Against the lower teams BHU, Toby etc can get a roll on and get us on the front food after the backs start us well. The issue we have is we have 3 players who fit into two positions in Dale, Cam and Wade. None are huge metre eaters and often we found Cam playing as a prop which is not ideal. Kafusi is a big upgrade on Fifita playing wise however we still need to find someone who has that go forward punch. Williams back helps but again not a big body.

Issue #3 Creativity. We had so much ball inside Souths 20 for example and unless it was a kick for Ronnie on a half we did not look like scoring. Brailey is often never noticed and is better than being a tackling machine. Moylan did not fire any shots in the moments we needed him. Nicho will fight to the death but when the other guys are not helping he over plays his hand trying to do everything. Also I thought our kicking game the last two weeks really dropped off.

This team made me feel something I haven't since 2016. 2017? I was still recovering. 2018-2019, fun but never really felt it. Covid ball was like touch footy and the obsession with ruck speed did my head in as it wasn't footy. The game felt more normal and we played it tough for the most part. Shark park was as fun as ever. The boys were so close off the field and every player who stayed was celebrated by them, every moment/try etc was reposted by another player.

We are losing two bench props and some bit pieces but have gained a lot of experience and pain. Other good sides like the Storm, Eels, Panthers are losing a number of players. I'm excited for 2023 and can't wait to see how we try and fix some of these issues.
 
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Let's face it, the Sharks had a major gamble game last week. They went in with injuries to a few major players, Finucane, Sifa and WK.
They gambled on winning that game to get the week off and have the injured not as much so.
They were 2 mins off (and a very strange ref decision) that gamble paying fruition.
Unfortunately that gamble also cost them this week, as they were spent.
 

shaggs

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Let's face it, the Sharks had a major gamble game last week. They went in with injuries to a few major players, Finucane, Sifa and WK.
They gambled on winning that game to get the week off and have the injured not as much so.
They were 2 mins off (and a very strange ref decision) that gamble paying fruition.
Unfortunately that gamble also cost them this week, as they were spent.
Hold on. Mods. Can you delete this post. We can’t have sense being posted here
 

Weaponhead

Coach
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Issue #1 I see is backs depth. Iku was a tremendous purchase but went down for us at the worst possible time - I still think he gets that ball down at HT vs the Cowboys. Ronnie and Katoa have not finished a season together in the last two years. Talakai was a blessing at centre but if he did not step up we have a tremendous hole that we can't fill if he or Raimen is out. Imagine Sifa not breaking out vs Manly, Tracey would likely have been our starting centre most of the year. We need an out and out centre backing up our top 2 options. Someone like an Opacic, Momirovski type player who can step in do a job on the weeks required then get back out of the 17 like Iku can do on the wing while not chewing up cap space. Tracey should not be the first option for a position he is not a specialist in no matter how fit he is and how hard he goes. I can't see any centres in our lower grades. I can see some wingers and obviously fullbacks but we need to go to market here.

Issue #2 Small ball. Against the lower teams BHU, Toby etc can get a roll on and get us on the front food after the backs start us well. The issue we have is we have 3 players who fit into two positions in Dale, Cam and Wade. None are huge metre eaters and often we found Cam playing as a prop which is not ideal. Kafusi is a big upgrade on Fifita playing wise however we still need to find someone who has that go forward punch. Williams back helps but again not a big body.

Issue #3 Creativity. We had so much ball inside Souths 20 for example and unless it was a kick for Ronnie on a half we did not look like scoring. Brailey is often never noticed and is better than being a tackling machine. Moylan did not fire any shots in the moments we needed him. Nicho will fight to the death but when the other guys are not helping he over plays his hand trying to do everything. Also I thought our kicking game the last two weeks really dropped off.

This team made me feel something I haven't since 2016. 2017? I was still recovering. 2018-2019, fun but never really felt it. Covid ball was like touch footy and the obsession with ruck speed did my head in as it wasn't footy. The game felt more normal and we played it tough for the most part. Shark park was as fun as ever. The boys were so close off the field and every player who stayed was celebrated by them, every moment/try etc was reposted by another player.

We are losing two bench props and some bit pieces but have gained a lot of experience and pain. Other good sides like the Storm, Eels, Panthers are losing a number of players. I'm excited for 2023 and can't wait to see how we try and fix some of these issues.
Good perspectives.
On issue 1 - There seems to be a plan for Iro. Whether he has it or not will only be seen when he steps up into NRL level. What he has shown in NSW Cup is a willingness to take carries and make yards. This is critical in the Sharks system. He has physicality but might lack polish. I don't know if Talakai at centre is going to be a medium term solution. He had a purple patch of attacking brilliance for a few games and then become more of a battering ram out of our end which did with good effect. Agree that Tracey is not an answer as a starting centre.

Issue 2 - completely agree. Couldn't handle big aggressive packs who offload (Raiders, Easts etc). Need more size and authority in the middle. BHU and Royce have the physical attributes but not sure they are ready to lead and deliver consistently. Dale can't be the battering ram as he won't last. Hopefully, Williams comes back strongly but he doesn't have the size. As well as we went, I just didn't sense the wary respect that the tough packs have.

Issue 3 - again on point. The spine needed to be giving more when it counted. Moylan had a good season but he is not going to be any better over the next 2 years. Kennedy has a nice passing game but has real deficiencies that haven't developed enough to make him a well rounded player. Hopefully, Dykes becomes a breakout player. He will need a huge offseason physically and mentally to handle NRL consistently. Brailey is an enigma. He showed a lot of skill coming through but plays at NRL level as a tackler with good DH service. His running lacks aggression. Doesn't kick much. He is super durable but needs to find another level. Hynes did well for first year at 7 but everything comes off him and he can meander then look for massive plays. He backs himself, which is great because the team overall really lacks the aggressive mindset needed.

Fitz has built a strong team. No standout superstars, but a galvanised team who work hard for each other. Beating the Warriors with 12 (11 for 10 mins) showed great heart and commitment. They are definitely a team worth supporting because they give.

This is a strong foundation to build from but there are some missing ingredients needed to take the next step.
 

Special K

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I totally forgot about Iro and his diet coke val holmes metre eating runs. The fact we gave him 2 years and he took it shows there must be a plan for him. He was the NSW cup player of the year so I imagine he had some demand and sees a path for himself.

Fingers crossed he steps up as if we can use Sifa in the middle the dynamic of our team changes again.
 
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Couple of plays where final ball went behind winger . Dont really want to watch again to see if it was bad pass or winger too far up or whatever...just thought -what a difference if they had scored those.
 
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Couple of plays where final ball went behind winger . Dont really want to watch again to see if it was bad pass or winger too far up or whatever...just thought -what a difference if they had scored those.
I remember one of them right in front of me. Ncho was giving death stares at either/or both, MIller and Tracey. They were clearly not in the right position.
 

shaggs

Coach
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I remember one of them right in front of me. Ncho was giving death stares at either/or both, MIller and Tracey. They were clearly not in the right position.
Nicho appears to be a systems guy. Be on the spot at the right moment or don’t play. The expectation is on the receiver.
Run into the hole, I’ll throw it. All you have to do is catch.
Bit NFL like. Run the route catch the ball.
 
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Spine round 1. 2023

1. Miller.
6. Dykes.
7. Hynes.
9. Brailey.

Have Moylan on bench he is better 14 then Trindall or Tracey
 

sladden road

Juniors
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I have a feeling round 1,2023 we will be playing the Valboys in Townsville.
They have been catapulted into my hated teams list
With Manly, Scumawarra, Melburn and now the Valboys..thanks to that Felix, Lego head and the gum chewing crybaby..everybody gets the penalties except us..yeah look at your last third of year …tigers and us..
merkins of the highest .
High diving olympics..
 

2012....Sharks Year

First Grade
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Let's face it, the Sharks had a major gamble game last week. They went in with injuries to a few major players, Finucane, Sifa and WK.
They gambled on winning that game to get the week off and have the injured not as much so.
They were 2 mins off (and a very strange ref decision) that gamble paying fruition.
Unfortunately that gamble also cost them this week, as they were spent.
Spot on...almost jagged it v cows but all our eggs were in that basket. Masterstroke if it came off.
 

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