Ambrose off to NASCAR in 2006

[Kiwi]

Gotta say, and i know there a whole lot of other people Holden and Ford fans alike who will say this, i can't wait till he leaves, he has had a major attidtude problem this season, and for one can't wait to see the back of him

Why because Murphy says so? I'd be pretty pissed off as well if I'd been punted off like he was with no penalty to the driver who did it.

 

[Gidsgal]

Why because Murphy says so? I'd be pretty pissed off as well if I'd been punted off like he was with no penalty to the driver who did it.

No, not cause Murphy says so, because of my own observations of how he has acted all of this year and the end part of last year

 

[douglasallen91]

which is, like v8 supercars, dominated by ford.

holden 156 wins
ford 119.

unsure if that includes this year or not. but their hasn't been 37 races.

 

[Kiwi]

holden 156 wins
ford 119.

unsure if that includes this year or not. but their hasn't been 37 races.

I think he is refering to to this year and the two just gone.

 

[Kiwi]

No, not cause Murphy says so, because of my own observations of how he has acted all of this year and the end part of last year

Personally I'm more of a Lowndes fan, even when he was at Holden, and I can't see how people can say Ambrose has an attitude problem. I'd like to see all the reports and articles that back this up. This year he has been penalised for the stupidest things while others get away with causing 10 car crashes, I can see how he is getting frustrated, but to his credit he has lashed out only once this year in the media, which he apoligised for doing. But this is all very typical, it wont be long till we see rule changes that hand dominance back to Holden.

 

[douglasallen91]

Personally I'm more of a Lowndes fan, even when he was at Holden, and I can't see how people can say Ambrose has an attitude problem. I'd like to see all the reports and articles that back this up. This year he has been penalised for the stupidest things while others get away with causing 10 car crashes, I can see how he is getting frustrated, but to his credit he has lashed out only once this year in the media, which he apoligised for doing. But this is all very typical, it wont be long till we see rule changes that hand dominance back to Holden.

funniest thing with ambrose and his ego. was last year at gold coast (or was it two years ago - 90% sure it was last year) he had go at rick kelly for not passing him.

 

[Kiwi]

funniest thing with ambrose and his ego. was last year at gold coast (or was it two years ago - 90% sure it was last year) he had go at rick kelly for not passing him.

Well Kelly should have passed him, Ambrose slowed right down to let him passed seeing as he was a lap down, Kelly chose to stay right behind him to try and force a mistake because his team mate would have been the benifactor of it.

Now I know what you are going to say, thats racing and/or who cares if a lapped car is doing what Kelly was Ambrose should haven't have worried.

It's not racing, and any racer would worry when you have a car behind you hassling you like it wants to over take, is a lap down, refuses to over take when given every chance to and is the team mate of your nearest competitor.

 

[douglasallen91]

Well Kelly should have passed him, Ambrose slowed right down to let him passed seeing as he was a lap down, Kelly chose to stay right behind him to try and force a mistake because his team mate would have been the benifactor of it.

Now I know what you are going to say, thats racing and/or who cares if a lapped car is doing what Kelly was Ambrose should haven't have worried.

It's not racing, and any racer would worry when you have a car behind you hassling you like it wants to over take, is a lap down, refuses to over take when given every chance to and is the team mate of your nearest competitor.

no look at bathurst and how paul morris crashed. he thought he was getting let passed and boom hes out of the race.

 

[Kiwi]

no look at bathurst and how paul morris crashed. he thought he was getting let passed and boom hes out of the race.

Ambrose could have over shot a corner into a run off that day and Kelly would have stopped and waited for him to come out rather than over take him. It was joke and very poor tactics that thankfully failed.

 

[douglasallen91]

Ambrose could have over shot a corner into a run off that day and Kelly would have stopped and waited for him to come out rather than over take him. It was joke and very poor tactics that thankfully failed.

and who went to who after the race and mouthed off. ambrose. i see a patten.

 

[Kiwi]

and who went to who after the race and mouthed off. ambrose. i see a patten.

Because it was dirty and underhanded racing. Personally I would have done a Senna and decked Kelly.

Guess that means Skaife is arrogant and has an attitude problem too then. He has gone up to drivers after events and races to say what he thinks also. As have many drivers in the past and as will many drivers in the future.

 

[Gidsgal]

funniest thing with ambrose and his ego. was last year at gold coast (or was it two years ago - 90% sure it was last year) he had go at rick kelly for not passing him.

Yeah, it was last year, and that was funny, him thinking he is king sh*t and everyone should just move out his way and just let him win

 

[Kiwi]

Yeah, it was last year, and that was funny, him thinking he is king sh*t and everyone should just move out his way and just let him win

Read again, It was Kelly that was houding him like he wanted to pass Ambrose to unlap himself, when Ambrose gave him room and every chance to pass him, Kelly remained behind because they were trying to use dirty tactics to try and force a mistake by Ambrose.

If Ambrose is attacking someone for a position he does not expect them to yeild without a fight, if he is lapping someone, they have to yeild as they would when getting lapped by anyone as part of the rules. And before you say Murphy then was in the right at Bathurst, Ambrose had passed him, had the inside line for the next corner, Murphy f**ked it on the previous corner and Ambrose got him fair and square.

 

[Kiwi]

You Holden fans are mostly all the same, quite happy to turn a blind eye to dirty tactics, and everything Holden drivers do, but the second a Ford driver speaks his mind, has a go at someone for trying dirty tactics during a race to try and help a team mate or has a go at someone who punted him off causing a 10 car crash he has a attitude problem :roll:. Next year we'll be hearing complaints about Ingall and his aggresive driving style, which was worse at Holden and went unpenalised at Holden because he leads the championship.

 

[Gidsgal]

Read again, It was Kelly that was houding him like he wanted to pass Ambrose to unlap himself, when Ambrose gave him room and every chance to pass him, Kelly remained behind because they were trying to use dirty tactics to try and force a mistake by Ambrose.

If Ambrose is attacking someone for a position he does not expect them to yeild without a fight, if he is lapping someone, they have to yeild as they would when getting lapped by anyone as part of the rules. And before you say Murphy then was in the right at Bathurst, Ambrose had passed him, had the inside line for the next corner, Murphy f**ked it on the previous corner and Ambrose got him fair and square.

Your point being????

Maybe Ambrose shouldn't of break-tested Rick, he had no right to, and as Murphy said, he thinks everyone has to yeild to him, and let him get in front. Just because he has won 2 championships in a row doesn't make him a better person because of it, he isn't better than anyone else, and yet he acts like he is way above them and so much better than the rest of them, which is so not true. If he was better, he would of one Bathurst at least once by now!!!

 

[Kiwi]

Your point being????

Maybe Ambrose shouldn't of break-tested Rick, he had no right to, and as Murphy said, he thinks everyone has to yeild to him, and let him get in front. Just because he has won 2 championships in a row doesn't make him a better person because of it, he isn't better than anyone else, and yet he acts like he is way above them and so much better than the rest of them, which is so not true. If he was better, he would of one Bathurst at least once by now!!!

When has Ambrose gone off at someone for not yeilding when they weren't passed already? When? Tell us, he went off at a PASSED murphy because Murphy punted him off and caused a major crash. I can't think of any time Ambrose has thrown a wobbly when he the driver in front fighting for position hasn't just yeilded to him. Either show proof or STFU.

 

[Gidsgal]

When has Ambrose gone off at someone for not yeilding when they weren't passed already? When? Tell us, he went off at a PASSED murphy because Murphy punted him off and caused a major crash. I can't think of any time Ambrose has thrown a wobbly when he the driver in front fighting for position hasn't just yeilded to him. Either show proof or STFU.

I'm not saying he has said that, i'm saying that is his attitude for christ's sake, and what about the post race conference when he couldn't answer back when Murph was accusing him of brake testing Rick kelly, he looked like a stunned mullet, and then come to bathurst this year, he thinks he is too good to wear a balaclava, HELLO it is there to wear for safety reasons, u would think at least for his own safety he would wear one, but no, he thinks he is too good for it

 

[griffo346]

ambrose in my mind is a over rated tool who has let winning the championships go to his head as far as i am concerned he can go to nascars and stay there

 

[Gidsgal]

ambrose in my mind is a over rated tool who has let winning the championships go to his head as far as i am concerned he can go to nascars and stay there

I agree with you

 

[griffo346]

can someone make me a holden racing team banner please