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Another Eden Park story

Diesel

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10836790

Another story about moving games to Eden Park starting with 8 possible home games in 2014



Report proposes moving Warriors from Mt Smart to help pay rugby stadium's debts


Warriors such as Shaun Johnson would play at cash-strapped Eden Park under the latest proposal. Photo / Brett Phibbs
League fans are being asked to bail out Eden Park, which is cash-strapped and weighed down by debt in the wake of the Rugby World Cup's euphoria.

The cup's legacy is a 50,000-seat stadium $55 million in debt and struggling to break even and the plan is to move the Warriors from Mt Smart Stadium to Eden Park.

Based on this year's figures, about 96,000 league fans could pour through the gates for eight home games at Eden Park from 2014.

The proposed move is part of a review of Auckland stadiums that focuses strongly on saving money and pays little attention to the effect on the sporting codes and their fans.

A "strategic direction" for the city's big stadiums proposes that Eden Park becomes the primary venue for rugby, league, one-day and 20/20 cricket matches.

Other pieces of the jigsaw involve moving speedway to Mt Smart Stadium to free up Western Springs for test cricket.

Mt Smart Stadium would be used as a training base for league, a high-performance centre and remain the home of athletics.


North Harbour Stadium - which got a $1 million ratepayer subsidy in the past year - would continue to be used by North Harbour Rugby, New Zealand Soccer and for local uses.

Warriors patriarch Sir Peter Leitch said the fans were happy with Mt Smart Stadium and a move to Eden Park with the 50,000-seat capacity ground three-quarters or half empty would create a horrible atmosphere.

"When you think of Eden Park you think rugby union. Think Mt Smart Stadium and you think rugby league. That's the reality," Sir Peter said.

He said the council, which found $10 million for the V8 Supercars, only needed to spend a bit of money to upgrade Mt Smart Stadium.

Warriors chief executive Wayne Scurrah has expressed similar concerns to the Herald on Sunday, saying league fans struggled to create an atmosphere at Eden Park.

A lack of atmosphere with small crowds at midweek matches for the ITM competition is one reason Auckland Rugby is exploring the possibility of moving one match from Eden Park to Trusts Stadium at Henderson next year.

A report going to the council today says moving the Warriors to Eden Park offsets the needs to spend up to $60 million upgrading Mt Smart Stadium and helps the "lack of financial sustainability" at Eden Park.

Integrating the management and operations of the stadiums is one cost-saving option, but no firm work has been done on the likely savings.

The overall plan is expected to reduce council funding requirements, create opportunities for Eden Park to pay down debts of $55 million and strengthen the overall financial position of the region's stadiums.

Of this debt, Auckland ratepayers underwrote the final $40 million of the $256 million upgrade for the Rugby World Cup and are owed $6.5 million from an earlier loan.

Council officers - who warned at the time of the $40 million underwrite in 2010 that the trust board's business plan might not work and posed significant risk - said Eden Park was only managing to break even and faced difficult choices to meet its financial obligations.

Eden Park chief executive David Kennedy said the park was able to run the stadium, pay rates and pay interest on the debt, but could not generate enough money to pay down the debt or fund future investment.

One option is to tear up the number two ground and turn it into a bus interchange, taxi ranks, carparks or develop it for residential or commercial use.

This option, however, is at odds with Auckland Cricket, which uses the number two ground for domestic cricket and is holding the first test match in Auckland since 2004 between the Black Caps and England next year inside the main Eden Park stadium.

Auckland Cricket chief executive Mark Cameron said the sport was happy at Eden Park - "it has been our home and history for over 100 years" - and was set to resume domestic cricket after the reinstatement of the number two ground.

"We are not seeking to relocate from Eden Park."
 
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Rich102

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Based on this years performance they would be lucky to get 30,000 in total + a few stray dogs.
Why are we the poor relation? Get the NZRU to pay the debt.
 

Akkerz

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We fought against the loss of Carlaw Park & lost that one. I guess what we think won't even be a consideration where the shitty council is concerned.

Why are the cricket mob bleating, they can practice at any cricket ground . It doesn't have to be Eden Park . If this is a done deal the number 2 ground should definately become a transport centre, buses, disabled parking etc because the current system is an f'n shambles.
 

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8 games at EP and the low drawing games to be played at other venues in NZ, perhaps this is what the CEO was referring to when he said they'd take games around NZ
 

ozbash

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Sweet, just saved $500..

12 home games, 8 at EP, 4 around the country.

Scurrah has made up my mind for me.
 

vvvrulz

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"The cup's legacy is a 50,000-seat stadium $55 million in debt and struggling to break even and the plan is to move the Warriors from Mt Smart Stadium to Eden Park."

Well what exactly did they think would happen? Hilarious.
Mt Smart will always be the home of the Warriors for me, moving them to Eden Park will taint that image.
 

hitro

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Doesn't this story make you sick? All that BS how Eden Park was the best option for RWC, just to get public money to prop up a private thing, of course construction by Fletchers.... Now they need the warriors crowd to try and make it work cos no one goes to any union games except All Blacks.
Please Owen Glenn make a middle size covered stadium like Dunedin in cahoots with Ngati Whatua at the shunting yard or even where carlaw was and tell those other corrupt creeps to get lost. Bet John Banks was involved somehow too
 

Sam_the_man

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So why is it that only the dick heads in charge were the only ones saying this eden park refit was going to be a costly waste of money?
Absolutely no to a move. Put a some money into Mt Smart.
 

MKEB...

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If they cant fill up Eden park religiously with Super rugby matches...with the ape-city of NZ being purportedly rugby fans; what chance do they have of filling it up with Warriors fans?

If they do go ahead with this....what is in it for Warriors financially-wise since the Warriors will only be there to make it financially viable.
 

ozbash

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Thats the thing with Jaffa rugby fans, they are only fans if their team is winning.

Look at the crowds at Eden Park when Aucklands playing, or, worse still, Nth Harbore..

League fans are different, weve been bashed and kicked for years and have developed stickability.
 

MKEB...

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But with Mt Smart getting 13k average and stacking the stadium when when we are winning...I cant see Eden park being that much better for them. A good case perhaps for actually doing brilliant coach recruiting just to get bums on seats just on name alone.
 

ozbash

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Just for watching a game, Mt Smart leaves EP for dead. You spend half your time watching the big screen at EP, you are that far away.

At Mt Smart you can give touchies, cameramen, cheerskanks and tv 'personalities' advice and exchange pleasantries.

No to Eden Park.
 

hitro

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There's nothing in it for the Warriors. They'll probably get less people to the games cos you can't see. The union guys don't care about seeing cos there's not much to see in their game anyway and they only care about winning rather than watching the game to give them a smug backdrop for more corrupt insider trading
 

One Warrior

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Auckland Council or Super City or whatever it calls itself can get f**ked for all i care. Mt Smart is the home of The Warriors, Owen Glenn said that if he had to he would pay for the upgrade to Mt Smart, looks like it is time for Owen to front up with the money. Then the Council, Eden Park and the Rugby Union can get f**ked, why should The Warriors dig them out of the hole they have dug for themselves.
 

MKEB...

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I was at Eden park for the season opener (black caps double-header), the only thing I saw going for it was the train stops (and a couple of decent pubs nearby). Luckily I had grouse seats and was watching the game (and skydiver deciding that having two legs was over-rated).
 

Rich102

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"Auckland councillors were divided yesterday over whether the public should have a say."

Aren't they elected? And they don't know if the public should have a say? Bet the public have a say come next elections.
Glad Alf Filipaina and John Walker are on the council.

This really stinks. RWC forced the councils into overspending. For what? To put profit into the coffers of the IRB. What do they put back into our communities? Nothing.
And now league is expected to move to help pay the debt.

Hope we never host a RWC again.
 
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