Are 'point to point' speed cameras real or a myth in Sydney?

[Pierced Soul]

I've ehard about these sorts of things before and ehard they're a myth, anyone know if there's any substance to the below email i was forwarded?


M5 and the M7 are now equipped with Point to Point speed devices.


Once you enter the M7 for instance you pass the etag and it beeps.


At the same time a camera takes a photo of your car and records The

exact time.


For those who have exited the M7 they would be aware that upon exit The

etag system beeps again as you leave.


At the same time another camera at that point takes a photo of the Car

and the time.


Then the computer calculates the time it has taken you to Travel
between
the two points and calculates your speed.


If you have completed the clocked journey too fast you are given a

Speeding ticket.


At the present time the speed limit is 100K.P.H. And you have a

Tolerance of 102 and no more.


One fraction over that speed and you are issued with a fine

Automatically.


Remember, this is going to be a very costly experience for some
Drivers.

It is also going to mean vehicles will be travelling at 95 in order To

ensure that no ticket is issued.

What a shock some drivers are going to have when they have used this

Roadway for a week and get a weeks tickets BOTH WAYS.

Of course your license will also be recalled for three months and You

know the rest.


Take the advice and if you ignore it remember this email when You pay

all those fines.



Also, remember that now with the new legislation, fighting a speed

Camera fine is almost impossible.


You must prove the device is faulty and if you are not a technician

Working on them, you have no chance of beating the fine.

The Pacific Highway has a set and these are recognized as large Steel

frames over the lanes with a speed camera and some distance up the Road

Is another large metal frame with a speed camera.

These new point to point systems are being put onto any expressway Or

highway where vehicles are not able to exit between those points.

Also remember that school zone cameras are not speed tolerant.

Anything over, even 41, is a fine. This means people will be doing 38
to
avoid any differences in their speedo readings.

 

[ozbash]

dunno about Sydney but they work just fine in Melbourne..

 

[greenos]

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/point-to-point-speed-hoax.shtml

its a hoax

 

[ozbash]

my bro-in-laws ticket is a hoax ?

 

[bulldog]

Dunno about Melbourne, but definitely not on the M7, travel the M7 every day @ 110kmh (just like almost everyone else) for the last 2 and a 1/2 years, never had a speeding fine from that.

 

[[furrycat]]

... Its not a hoax. Maybe some roads listed on that email, but there are well and truly p2p cameras in sydney. Pretty sure its only the M4.

 

[Ninja]

Surely the tolerance would be more than 2kmh over? Thats ridiculous

 

[Ausguy]

definately not on m7,,,, i look down and most times doin 120 only takes 20 mins fom one end to the other,,, great rd

 

[bjm8]

The Pacific Highway has a set and these are recognized as large Steel

frames over the lanes with a speed camera and some distance up the Road

Is another large metal frame with a speed camera.

The 'safe-t-cam' only picks up heavy vehicles, the cameras are triggered by the heat emitted from roof mounted clearance lights. They measure the time you have taken from point to point to check that you have had an adequate rest break.

 

[roopy]

I've heard the cameras on the overpass near Wyong on the M3 are for heavy vehicles only - they are at the bottom of a decent straight and i've heard MTA people check many aspects of heavy vehicles by video.

 

[Timmah]

Westlink Dismisses Hoax Email
10/4/2008

Westlink M7 has dismissed a hoax email currently circulating that claims that the motorway has implemented a secret speed fine based on the time a vehicle enters and exits the motorway.

Rachel Johnson, General Manager of Westlink M7, said that the email was a hoax and that no secret speed enforcement system operates on the Westlink M7.

Westlink supports safe driving and urges all motorists to comply with posted speed limits.

“However, the secret speed fine system detailed in the hoax email does not exist,” Ms Johnson said.

“Speed limits are enforced on the Westlink M7 through the normal policing measures that operate on all NSW roads.”

“Westlink meets regularly with the NSW Highway Patrol.”

Westlink has installed signs that remind motorists that speed cameras are used in NSW.

These are the standard speed camera signs seen on roads across the state and do not mean that any new or secret speed system operates on the Westlink M7.

http://westlinkm7.com.au/news-Detail.asp?NewsID=80

I've heard the cameras on the overpass near Wyong on the M3 are for heavy vehicles only - they are at the bottom of a decent straight and i've heard MTA people check many aspects of heavy vehicles by video.

Those cameras moved almost five years ago, they're now rigged on a steel frame outside the Mt White Weigh Station. All happened when they re-aligned the cutting there.

And it's F3

 

[Cupid Stunt]

I was gonna throw my vote to hoax on M7. Else I'm due 2 years of fines from each week in one hit... :crazy:

:lol:

 

[TooheysNew]

On a related topic - how does a camera monitor fatigue?

 

[roopy]

Those cameras moved almost five years ago, they're now rigged on a steel frame outside the Mt White Weigh Station. All happened when they re-aligned the cutting there.

And it's F3

I stopped looking for them when someone told me they weren't for cars - before that it used to piss me off that they were at the bottom of a hill where i always seemed to edge over the speed limit.

 

[zombie jesus]

Safe-T-Cam

Safe-T-Cam is an RTA initiative that aims to reduce the incidence of heavy vehicle speed and fatigue in an effort to prevent heavy vehicle accidents.
Safe-T-Cam is an automated monitoring system that uses digital camera technology capable of reading the front number plate of heavy vehicles.

Safe-T-Cam will identify vehicles that:

• Have travelled at excessive speed.
• Have travelled beyond prescribed driving hours.
• Have attempted to avoid detection by Safe-T-Cam.
• Are unregistered.

An enforcement program


Safe-T-Cam is part of an overall enforcement program which includes:

• 300 heavy vehicle regulation inspectors.
• 42 cars fitted with in-car technology which allows inspectors to use risk based methodology to randomly stop and check heavy vehicles to ensure they are in compliance with RTA regulations.
• 7 heavy vehicle checking stations.
• 24 Safe-T-Cam sites across NSW.
• 170 roadside inspection areas.

The Safe-T-Cam network

The Safe-T-Cam network consists of 24 cameras mounted on overhead gantries and bridges located on major routes throughout NSW, clearly marked with road-side signage. The network monitors heavy vehicle travel times, verifies driver logbooks and detects vehicles that fail to enter checking stations for inspection.
Heavy vehicle checking stations

Safe-T-Cam is used at heavy vehicle checking stations to monitor heavy vehicle travel times, verify driver logbooks and detect vehicles that fail to enter for inspection.
Vehicle regulation inspectors

Approximately half of the RTA's enforcement vehicles now have in-car technology.
These in-car computers provide RTA vehicle inspectors with the ability to query licence and registration details and view Safe-T-Cam sighting reports at the roadside.
They can check NSW licences and registrations through the RTA database, and also check interstate licences and registrations through NEVDIS (National Exchange of Vehicle and Driver Information System).
Mobile Safe-T-Cam units in RTA inspectors' vehicles enable inspectors to input vehicle sightings into the Safe-T-Cam system, thereby expanding the network of Safe-T-Cam sites and associated monitoring.
Managing heavy vehicle speed and fatigue

Speed and fatigue are major factors in heavy vehicle accidents.
Since its introduction in 1995, Safe-T-Cam has proven effective in encouraging behavioural change of heavy vehicle drivers and operators and has contributed to a reduction in the incidence of heavy vehicle speed, driver fatigue and heavy vehicle accidents.
Safe-T-Cam continues to assist the RTA in building profiles of heavy vehicle operators and drivers, and provides valuable information on the incidence of speed and fatigue on major transports routes throughout NSW.

Obligations, responsibilities and requirements

• Drivers are obliged by law to tell their employers if the trip requires them to exceed permitted fatigue management requirements.
• If an employer or anyone else causes, permits or induces any offence, they will be equally guilty of an offence, not just the driver.
• It is now a legal requirement of heavy vehicle operators to obtain copies of all drivers’ logbooks. Failure to do so may result in a court imposed penalty of up to a maximum of $2,200 for the operator.

What is a heavy vehicle?

Heavy vehicles are defined as those with a Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) of 4.5 tonnes or more.
What speed limit applies to heavy vehicles?

The national maximum speed limit for a heavy vehicle is 100 km/h.
More information

For more information about Safe-T-Cam phone 1300 364 847.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/heavyvehicles/safety/speeding/safetcam/index.html