ARL to block Brent Webb from playing

[RLIF]

Has been reported in the NZ papers that the ARL are going to block Brent Webb for playing with the Kiwis because he is not a resident of NZ anymore....

Great stuff ARl keep killing the International game..

 

[playdaball]

A few years ago, despite holding a NZ passport, I was a permanant Resident of the UK. I moved back Downunder and I was still a PR for 3 years after the date I moved out of the UK.Unsure of the situation in NZ.

Howie Tamati now has a position with the NZRL whereby he has to manage eligiability issues. This needs to be quashed now it cannot turn into another GRANNYGATE.

Easy fix ... Webby to get a NZ passport !!!!!!

 

[Sam_the_man]

F**k the aussies, what can they do if we do field Webb in the test?

 

[steeden.]

pull your head in ARL.. do you want a quality opposition or not?

 

[Razor]

If he is allowed to play it'll be an absolute joke and make League a laughing stock.

He wasn't born in NZ, has no NZ heritage, is not (and never has been) a citizen of NZ, and is not a resident of NZ.

How can he possibly play?

He shouldn't make the team anyway, but even if he was one of the worlds best players he should not be allowed in the team.

F**k the aussies, what can they do if we do field Webb in the test?

Same as if NZ fields Adrian Morely. Block the player from playing. Webb isn't eligible, under the international guidelines for selection in Rugby League (nor for the vast majority, if not all, other sports).

 

[douglasallen91]

now if webb doesn't play, we are going to get the covell hicks celebrating!

 

[roughyedspud]

back to the topic......


does anyone have any links to the NZ newspapers that are reporting this

 

[Iafeta]

The rule is 3 years of residency to qualify which clearly Brent Webb has served.

Also, you can play for one major nation. Once he was selected for New Zealand, that's it. Unless there's a Grannygate situation and his eligibility first up was incorrect then he's eligible.

The ARL will open up a massive pandoras box if they try to enforce this. What happens if Karmichael Hunt moves to SuperLeague. He's not an Australian by birth, but he is an Australian resident after serving 3 years. Let's say Leeds give him an audacious contract and he goes, does that mean he no longer is eligible? Does that also mean after 3 years he's eligible for Great Britain?

 

[In-goal]

I think that because Brent Webb has played test footy for NZ he is entitled to play for them again upon selection.

I can't see how he might have lost eligibility for moving to the Rhinos

 

[Sam_the_man]

The rule is 3 years of residency to qualify which clearly Brent Webb has served.

Also, you can play for one major nation. Once he was selected for New Zealand, that's it. Unless there's a Grannygate situation and his eligibility first up was incorrect then he's eligible.

The ARL will open up a massive pandoras box if they try to enforce this. What happens if Karmichael Hunt moves to SuperLeague. He's not an Australian by birth, but he is an Australian resident after serving 3 years. Let's say Leeds give him an audacious contract and he goes, does that mean he no longer is eligible? Does that also mean after 3 years he's eligible for Great Britain?

The box was opened long ago mate, Tony Carrol's name springs to mind.

 

[RHYTHM AND STEALTH]

back to the topic......


does anyone have any links to the NZ newspapers that are reporting this

Try this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaynews/4026682a19773.html

 

[Pistol]

The box was opened long ago mate, Tony Carrol's name springs to mind.

tonie carroll played for NZ in the World Cup which didnt count against him playing for Australia in the Test side
not sure on what the exact rule was

 

[Achillies]

The rule is 3 years of residency to qualify which clearly Brent Webb has serve.

Thats the end of the issue right there.The ARL is just trying to run things as usual.

 

[Razor]

The rule is 3 years of residency to qualify which clearly Brent Webb has served.

And League, like every other sport, they need to keep residing in that country.

What happens if Karmichael Hunt moves to SuperLeague. He's not an Australian by birth, but he is an Australian resident after serving 3 years. Let's say Leeds give him an audacious contract and he goes, does that mean he no longer is eligible? Does that also mean after 3 years he's eligible for Great Britain?

Hunt is an Australian citizen though. If Brent Webb became a NZ citizen, then moved overseas, of course he could still play for them. But he didn't become a citizen, he only ever stayed a resident. So he can't class himself as a Kiwi.

tonie carroll played for NZ in the World Cup which didnt count against him playing for Australia in the Test side
not sure on what the exact rule was

World Cup matches(except 1995) aren't Test matches, so the rules for Tests don't apply. He played in the 2000 Cup, so the "once you've played a test for one country, you can't play for another" don't apply. If he played for the Kiwis in the 1995 World Cup, then he couldn't play for Australia afterwards.

ou have Buderus for Dally M, is that for season 2009 too?

The Dally M is awarded this year isn't it? And is also in NRL 2007 is it not?

Is the Tri-series part of the NRL? No it's not. So why would you possibly think that it was referring to 2007? It's not even on this year. It's not exactly a secret, that the NZ centenary celebrations are taking place this year. How can they possibly do both? Use your brain.

 

[Iafeta]

The box was opened long ago mate, Tony Carrol's name springs to mind.

That was under some crazy rule to help out "Developing" nations at the World Cup only.

Once you play full internationals for a major nation, you're unable to play full test match internationals for another nation.

 

[Iafeta]

And League, like every other sport, they need to keep residing in that country.[/quote[

Rubbish. Once you earn your qualification and mark your first full test match international, like every other sport, that's it, you're ineligible to represent another nation.

Mate, honestly, you should try stand up.

 

[Razor]

Rubbish. Once you earn your qualification and mark your first full test match international, like every other sport, that's it, you're ineligible to represent another nation.

What a load of sh*t

You can change your nationality if you want, you just have to wait 1-3 years(depending on the sport - League is 2 years).

Sportspeople change their nationality all of the time.

But that's besides the point. Webb can't play for NZ anymore, as he isn't a Kiwi. Same as Morely can't play for Australia, but could have last year.

Read up the guidelines on the residency rule. If you don't meet any of the other critieria - born in that country, grandparents/parents born/citizens of that country, or became a citizen of that country; you can't use the residency criteria if you don't reside in that country.

Webb could have moved there when he was 1 year old. If he never became a citizen, then he would no longer be allowed to play.

 

[byrne_rovelli_fan82]

He's a kiwi hands down. Don't care where in the world he is playing, he made it clear he wanted to play for the Kiwis and he always will.

The ARL are a bunch of nuffies looking to gain advtange like usual. Nice way to 'promote' rugby league in the wider community. Yeah, real smooth.

Everyone knows the eligibiliy rule is flawed, but Webb did all the right things so he's clear in the accounts.

 

[parra-matters]

There are different rules for Queenlanders too, Lam played for PNG and Qld as did Craig Smith for NZ and Qld. Carroll should be a kiwi but the Qlders wanted him in origin.
It's funny coz the 1st time Matthew Ridge played Rugby League was with Manly but he couldn't be selected for NSW. I rang in to a talk back program about this a few years ago and was told there are different rules for Qld then everybody else, with a hit of sarcasim I might add.

 

[deluded pom?]

If we want to make the game look a laughing stock, yet again, then let the Aussies have their own way (yet again) . As far as I'm concerned Webb is a Kiwi international who has fulfilled all the necessary criteria and as such is still eligible for New Zealand if selected. Once again the Aussies try to manipulate the game to suit their own ends. I have total respect for the skills of the Australian players. That cannot be argued with but the sportsmanship of Australian sport is once again called into question. I realise not all Aussies are such bad sports but the high profile adminstrators who run Australian sports are seen by the rest of the world as the kid who takes his ball home if we don't play by their rules.