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ARLC Commission Changes

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ong-love-of-rugby-league-20170728-gxkw01.html

New ARL commissioner Megan Davis on her lifelong love of rugby league

Megan Davis, among her other distinguished posts, has mediated between nations in her role as chair of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues at the United Nations.

It's serious business, with high stakes and the need for expert diplomacy. It might even be enough, the law professor hopes, to put her in good stead for dealing with the egos, politics and power plays of the greatest game of all.

"I've had to do some pretty serious negotiations between many member states of the UN on a number of things. In terms of the diplomacy that's required, to negotiate among the clubs and the states, hopefully those skills will be useful," Davis said with a smile after being appointed to a seat on the Australian Rugby League Commission.

If Davis would be wise not to underestimate the machinations of rugby league, than rusted-on powerbrokers in the game should be equally as wary if they are planning to take on the decorated lawyer, teacher and constitutional expert.

A proud Cobble Cobble woman, Davis is a Professor of Law at the University of NSW, a commissioner of the NSW Land and Environment Court, an indigenous leader that played a key role in the Referendum Council Aboriginal Constitutional Dialogues, as well as a former UN Fellow of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights in Geneva.

And she knows a hell of a lot about rugby league. Immersed in the code since her childhood - 'It's like air. You don't even question it. It's just who you are ' - Davis can't remember a time when she wasn't speaking about, watching or listening to the game.

"Of course, that's the game of choice for most blackfullas. My own family were moved from Warrina in the Bunya Mountains to the Cherbourg Reserve early in the 1900s. I have family growing up in Cherbourg that always played rugby league," Davis said.

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"It's just a big part of our culture. They eventually left the Reserve and my grandad and his brother grew up in Urangan near Hervey Bay. They played around there and were big contributors to the development of indigenous rugby league there, including the creation of the Pialba All Blacks in the 1920s.

"My dad played rugby league. My brothers played rugby league. My nephews played rugby league. We moved and ended up in Logan (Eagleby) and my brother was good mates with Alan Cann and Tonie Carroll. It's just a huge part of our culture."

Those that have simplistically painted the addition of Davis and former Queensland premier Peter Beattie to the ARLC as another move by the Maroon mafia need to understand the depths of Davis' affection for league, it's history and the legacy yet to be left.

Throughout her career, she has found inspiration through musicians, diplomats, poets and artists. Yet rugby league has somehow always been the soundtrack and the framework, no matter where she was in the world.

"I always credit my very good study routines to rugby league. On the weekend, it revolved around the ABC Grandstand call and sitting in my study around that. One way of getting on with your brothers in adolescence is to find something in common with them. I think league was the universal language in our house


And on whether her Queensland background should concern the Sydney clubs: "Queensland is one aspect of my identity. But I've lived in Sydney since 2002. I go to Henson Oval, Newtown... I've spent enough time here to appreciate the culture of rugby league in this city."

Davis enters the Commission with impeccable credentials for the looming constitutional reform but in terms of the code, a fan's perspective. She's an avid attendee of games from Allianz Stadium to Penrith. She has never met stars like Johnathan Thurston (she supports the Cowboys) and never set foot in a post-game dressing room.

But she sees beauty and inspiration in the game's players and the stories that remain to be told. For her family and many like it, the game represented so much more than a sport and a contest.

"There's a very interesting story about how rugby league was the ticket off the Reserve for many blackfullas, to actually play in white teams among white Australians. It was almost the emancipatory potential of league that enabled people to leave the Reserve. It's a really important story that needs to be told.

"AFL likes to promote itself as the indigenous code. And people will say sneering things about rugby league, like 'why do you want to follow a colonial sport', and I think that's such an unsophisticated way to look at the role rugby league plays in Aboriginal communities.

"It is true to say that it gave people freedom... the freedom to leave the Reserves and play among other Australians. This sport, that Aboriginal men were so good at... the archives are so rich, stories of great Aboriginal players we are yet to write about. And I say 'yet' because they need to be written about."


But,but but, she's not qualified ,she's a Queenslander,and Nick Politis won't be able to control her .
 

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So an NRL run by a stooge and owned by News Ltd did more to grow the league with less money than the current "independent" admin has done with their "billions".

Pretty much proves my point about directionless, myopic and weak administration.

And the Rams.Reds,Crushers say hi ECT ,We really appreciate the fact we still exist .Oh wait, we were flicked under the benevolence of Gallop's employers.Proves zilch.
And his employer helped drained the remaining cash in the ARL coffers.
Searle and friends despite all his later faults pushed for the Titans inclusion ,News and Gallop are hardly the instigators.They needed plenty of convincing.
Ask yourself how the code was travelling before Rupert and Ribes intervened.

You mention myopic.The Broncos are quite happy not having competition in Brisbane with another side.
 
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Grew league? They killed clubs off.

Put a team in SEQ......what a great idea! Why didn't somebody else think of that.

Anyway.
Not while Gallop was in charge. They went from 15 to 16. That's more than the famous commission has done. It could be equally said the ARL killed the Crushers seeing as they negotiated their removal in 1997. Since 2000 the only growth in the league has been Souths' readmission and the GC. So even the high court has done more for NRL growth than the commission has.
 

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Not while Gallop was in charge. They went from 15 to 16. That's more than the famous commission has done. It could be equally said the ARL killed the Crushers seeing as they negotiated their removal in 1997. Since 2000 the only growth in the league has been Souths' readmission and the GC. So even the high court has done more for NRL growth than the commission has.

Gallop and his cronies were instrumental in the downfall of the Crushers.

Hell they even got rid of Souths.

Spare me the "Gallop expanded the game" crap.

As I said, take with one hand, give with the other.
 
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And the Rams.Reds,Crushers say hi ECT ,We really appreciate the fact we still exist .Oh wait, we were flicked under the benevolence of Gallop's employers.
And his employer helped drained the remaining cash in the ARL coffers.
Searle and friends despite all his later faults pushed for the Titans inclusion ,News and Gallop are hardly the instigators.They needed plenty of convincing.
Ask yourself how the code was travelling before Rupert and Ribes intervened.
You mean before certain scummy drug cheating clubs got into bed with News Ltd and handed them the game?

You keep banging on about Gallop but the facts remain, the league expanded with him as CEO, which is more than has happened since. He might be the worst, most conflicted boss ever...and he's still overseen actual growth that the current mob of idiots has not.
 

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Not while Gallop was in charge. They went from 15 to 16. That's more than the famous commission has done. It could be equally said the ARL killed the Crushers seeing as they negotiated their removal in 1997. Since 2000 the only growth in the league has been Souths' readmission and the GC. So even the high court has done more for NRL growth than the commission has.

Gallop was the News Ltd commercial lawyer, and it has been stated, he was involved one way or another in News/NRL decision making from 1997 to 2012.
He didn't get the message lobbying Govt for grants to get new infrastructure or improve infrastructure was the norm.It took a Wagga Mayor to make him open his eyes.
 
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And he still did more as CEO to grow the NRL than the commission has.

You can crap on about how shit Gallop was all you like. It only highlights how f**king useless the likes of Greentard and the lame duck are now.
 

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You mean before certain scummy drug cheating clubs got into bed with News Ltd and handed them the game?

You keep banging on about Gallop but the facts remain, the league expanded with him as CEO, which is more than has happened since. He might be the worst, most conflicted boss ever...and he's still overseen actual growth that the current mob of idiots has not.


Yes clubs including mine and the 2 Qld ones who got into bed with News.And it wouldn't have happened if Ribot,Morgan hadn't whispered into Rupert's ears about rationalising and having less Sydney teams and new interstate teams.
It all went really well didn't it.Hundreds of millions of dollars wasted ,that could have been spent on grassroots or down the line expansion.
And ARL heavies also got a slice of the monetary action.
You still don't get it,Gallop was involved in the decision making from 1995 through to his departure ,first as a News Ltd commercial lawyer then as CEO.His influence on decision making was therefore not a last minute show.He was involved in dud TV deals, he was in charge when clubs got into financial crap and the problems with the Titan's C of E.

When did Gallop get the money for a new Parra stadium and ANZ stadium and $40m set aside by the state Govt for C of E.It wasn't under his watch.

Cripes even Smith and he was a big spender used to get out in the bush and mix in with the locals .Ask rl people in Tasmania,and the Storm, Gallop ignored their pleas on many occasions.One guy involved from Tassie used to post here.

Gallop is but one, we had Moffatt (who couldn't run a school tiuckshop), of many issues within the game over the last 20 years
 
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Yes clubs including mine and the 2 Qld ones who got into bed with News.And it wouldn't have happened if Ribot,Morgan hadn't whispered into Rupert's ears about rationalising and having less Sydney teams and new interstate teams.
It all went really well didn't it.Hundreds of millions of dollars wasted ,that could have been spent on grassroots or down the line expansion.
And ARL heavies also got a slice of the monetary action.
You still don't get it,Gallop was involved in the decision making from 1995 through to his departure ,first as a News Ltd commercial lawyer then as CEO.His influence on decision making was therefore not a last minute show.He was involved in dud TV deals, he was in charge when clubs got into financial crap and the problems with the Tiotanb's Cof E.

When did Gallop get the money for a new Parra stadium and ANZ stadium and $40m set aside by the state Govt for C of E.It wasn't under his watch.

Cripes even Smith and he was a big spender used to get out in the bush and mix in with the locals .Ask rl people in Tasmania,and the Storm, Gallop ignored their pleas on many occasions.One guy involved from Tassie used to post here.

Gallop is but one, we had Moffatt (who couldn't run a school tiuckshop), of many issues within the game over the last 20 years
All the misinformation, spin and bullshit under the sun can't make this pile of shit commission smell good.

It was the wonderful commission who told Tasmania to give up and made them play touch instead.

Gallop was News Ltd's lawyer before he got the CEO job. He wohld have had virtually nothing to do with decision making as a lawyer except for giving legal advice. Trying to paint him as a decision maker pre 2002 in order to make it seem like he was responsible for rationalisation and club closures doesn't stack up and therefore doesn't make the current tards seem more competent by comparison.

The fact you have to stretch the truth so much and actually make Gallop seem even worse than he was to make the commission appear slightly less shit pretty much sums up how shit they actually are.
 

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All the misinformation, spin and bullshit under the sun can't make this pile of shit commission smell good.

It was the wonderful commission who told Tasmania to give up and made them play touch instead.

Gallop was News Ltd's lawyer before he got the CEO job. He wohld have had virtually nothing to do with decision making as a lawyer except for giving legal advice. Trying to paint him as a decision maker pre 2002 in order to make it seem like he was responsible for rationalisation and club closures doesn't stack up and therefore doesn't make the current tards seem more competent by comparison.

The fact you have to stretch the truth so much and actually make Gallop seem even worse than he was to make the commission appear slightly less shit pretty much sums up how shit they actually are.

LOL No spin whatsoever.Gallop was asked by Tasmania and the Storm for assistance and they were ignored.
That's where you are wrong.He was the bleeding commercial lawyer for News from 1995 during the SL war ,and that reason helped him crack the CEO job was due to his knowledge of the internal workings and financials.

You can't handle the truth.No need for me to expand.If you believe the head commercial lawyer for an organisation such as News, is somehow not involved in decisions making,then he ain't doing his job or is just plain incompetent.

Wiki FWIW noted Gallop was closely involved in all key decisions since NRL's inception since 1997.He was hardly sitting on the sidelines.
 
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That pencil necked f*ck was one of the lawyers for News when they tore league apart.

That piece of shit was a cancer on the game from the moment he set foot near the game.

Wow. They brought in GC when he was fumbling around.

He and his cronies at News also destroyed the Crushers. So give with one hand, tale away with the other.
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All the misinformation, spin and bullshit under the sun can't make this pile of shit commission smell good.

It was the wonderful commission who told Tasmania to give up and made them play touch instead.

Gallop was News Ltd's lawyer before he got the CEO job. He wohld have had virtually nothing to do with decision making as a lawyer except for giving legal advice. Trying to paint him as a decision maker pre 2002 in order to make it seem like he was responsible for rationalisation and club closures doesn't stack up and therefore doesn't make the current tards seem more competent by comparison.

The fact you have to stretch the truth so much and actually make Gallop seem even worse than he was to make the commission appear slightly less shit pretty much sums up how shit they actually are.

I don't think the commission are doing a good job at all.

I just take exception to the statement that Gallop was responsible for league expansion, when the smily turd has his paws in the demise of clubs.
 
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LOL No spin whatsoever.Gallop was asked by Tasmania and the Storm for assistance and they were ignored.
That's where you are wrong.He was the bleeding commercial lawyer for News from 1995 during the SL war ,and that reason helped him crack the CEO job was due to his knowledge of the internal workings and financials.

You can't handle the truth.No need for me to expand.If you believe the head commercial lawyer for an organisation such as News, is somehow not involved in decisions making,then he ain't doing his job or is just plain incompetent.

Wiki FWIW noted Gallop was closely involved in all key decisions since NRL's inception since 1997.He was hardly sitting on the sidelines.
So you get all your "facts" from Wikipedia.

That explains a lot.

What has the amazing commission done for Tasmania in recent years then? With their billions of dollars surely they could have resurected the league there. What's that, they haven't? They told them to just play touch instead. Brilliant. Thank f**k we have these geniuses running the show now.

You can wank on about Gallop and him not doing his job or whatever as much as you like. As I've said, the fact you have to even bring him up and make it seem like he was really important in News Ltd etc as a means of making the commission seem even mildly competent by comparison speaks volumes. It's the giant douche v shit sandwich situation, except you've even got to twist the truth to make one seem worse than it is.

The facts remain, the commission has no direction, no plan, no idea and most of all no interest in improving the game. That's why there's been no expansion. Any other explanation is an excuse and any other comparisons are a diversion.
 

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I know how and why the split occurred ,circa 1995 I was at the sharks League club when they went to S

You have misinterpreted my post. The answer doesn't lie in what happened 20 years. It lies right back when the population of Australia decided to go different ways in terms of developing and supporting different codes. Why did Rugby Union and Rugby League only take off in QLD and NSW? Why did AFL become popular in Vic, SA and WA? Understand the history to understand how we move forward.
 

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So you get all your "facts" from Wikipedia.

That explains a lot.

What has the amazing commission done for Tasmania in recent years then? With their billions of dollars surely they could have resurected the league there. What's that, they haven't? They told them to just play touch instead. Brilliant. Thank f**k we have these geniuses running the show now.

You can wank on about Gallop and him not doing his job or whatever as much as you like. As I've said, the fact you have to even bring him up and make it seem like he was really important in News Ltd etc as a means of making the commission seem even mildly competent by comparison speaks volumes. It's the giant douche v shit sandwich situation, except you've even got to twist the truth to make one seem worse than it is.

The facts remain, the commission has no direction, no plan, no idea and most of all no interest in improving the game. That's why there's been no expansion. Any other explanation is an excuse and any other comparisons are a diversion.

Err no.I mentioned the point FWIW.Meaning exactly what it say FWIW.
You didn't bother to check understandable.
They like the previous admin have done nothing for Tasmania.Did I suggest otherwise?

You appear to be so flipping blind, that he was involved at decision making level since 1997.I don't have to rely on Wicky Sticky or Dicky.It's a fact.
Else the guy has been hiding all that time in the shadows, and did a bitch of a job in the Nrl formation in 1997.
He has been part of the News set up from 1997 to 2012.Hardly a 5 minute see you later show.If his position was not important then Rupert is 2IC of News.
Twisting the truth LOL.You are twisting the truth by suggesting he was of little importance That is bollocks.

The legless Commission is waiting for your brilliant input and so am I.You spill the beans, we're all ears.
 

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You have misinterpreted my post. The answer doesn't lie in what happened 20 years. It lies right back when the population of Australia decided to go different ways in terms of developing and supporting different codes. Why did Rugby Union and Rugby League only take off in QLD and NSW? Why did AFL become popular in Vic, SA and WA? Understand the history to understand how we move forward.

Fair enough.
At one stage there was talk of rl and VRL forming a united code, not sure when that date was.Too bloody lazy to check.It fell by the wayside.
No doubt the history played an important role in states going their separate ways, but that has developed a hard baked tradition particularly in the VRL states.That makes the nut to expand in those states so much harder to crack with expansion.Just as rl developed in PNG in WW2 and dominates there.
Whereas the fumbling game had some sort of presence in NSW and Qld,which in some small ways assisted them.In addition to the large sums of money they now throw around.

That gets back to the point of grassroots development, and not just parachuting a NRL team in, such as what happened with the Storm,with little attention then paid to grassroots.Starting from the top doesn't work most of the time.

Rugby league has the habit of one step forward and two steps back.
I still get back to the fact bringing in (yes 20 years ago), we had teams in Adelaide and Perth,grassroots was starting to grow,OK with News money, then the plug was pulled.

Hence the very reason IMO,they haven't expanded to date, because the current NRL clubs need financial stability,the grassroots in NSW and Old have been underfunded for ages, and the realisation to get back into the states they flicked, they need a change of thinking and a whole lot of money.
 
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Err no.I mentioned the point FWIW.Meaning exactly what it say FWIW.
You didn't bother to check understandable.
They like the previous admin have done nothing for Tasmania.Did I suggest otherwise?

You appear to be so flipping blind, that he was involved at decision making level since 1997.I don't have to rely on Wicky Sticky or Dicky.It's a fact.
Else the guy has been hiding all that time in the shadows, and did a bitch of a job in the Nrl formation in 1997.
He has been part of the News set up from 1997 to 2012.Hardly a 5 minute see you later show.If his position was not important then Rupert is 2IC of News.
Twisting the truth LOL.You are twisting the truth by suggesting he was of little importance That is bollocks.

The legless Commission is waiting for your brilliant input and so am I.You spill the beans, we're all ears.
Name a decision he made pre 2002.

He wasn't CEO. He wasn't COO. He wasn't a board member, not even a News appointed one. He wasn't boss of the NSWRL or QRL. He wasn't a club boss.

But apparently he made all these decisions, according to you and no one else. And why so desperate to rewrite this bit of history? Because you need to try to make him responsible for cutting clubs. And why is that? Because otherwise he has a better record of expanding the league than your precious commission. How f**king embarrassing. I can see why you're so desperate.
 

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Name a decision he made pre 2002.

He wasn't CEO. He wasn't COO. He wasn't a board member, not even a News appointed one. He wasn't boss of the NSWRL or QRL. He wasn't a club boss.

But apparently he made all these decisions, according to you and no one else. And why so desperate to rewrite this bit of history? Because you need to try to make him responsible for cutting clubs. And why is that? Because otherwise he has a better record of expanding the league than your precious commission. How f**king embarrassing. I can see why you're so desperate.


I'm reading your guff and just shaking my head .
Gallop's title before he became CEO in 2002 was wait for it:-
NRL's Director of Legal and Business Affairs.

So this guy just sits in his leather chair and offers no advice whatsoever to CEOs and fellow directors ,(remembering News owned half the NRL ) on business decisions .No he is just there for appearance's sake.
Absolutely no influence .Just got the CEO job with the NRL,because he sat back like a dummy and offered nothing in the past.

Yep that's our Dave.
 
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