AusKick is not Aussie Rules

[AuckMel]

Thats not what i said. :roll:

A good coach would have at least 45-60 minutes of activities pre-planned to keep young minds interested at an AusKick session, while a bad/poor coach will only be able to keep them interested for a short time.

I suggest you might want to grab the coaching manual and have another go.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

How many different ways can you teach an anorexic unco kid to fumble?

 

[docbrown]

You also do not have to be a Brisbane junior to be part of the Brisbane Lions academy, they come from all over QLD.

Actually this is no longer true. Everything above Bundaberg and roughly below Logan is zoned to the Suns academy.

 

[docbrown]

How many different ways can you teach an anorexic unco kid to fumble?

Most kids can fumble at an AFL level by age 2

 

[AuckMel]

How many different ways can you teach an anorexic unco kid to fumble?

There's loads of drills.

 

[spritzer]

Didn't know it was against the law read a publically available report.

In your mind every single Auskick player plays AFL whereas it's not the case, not even according to the AFL.



So the kids aged up to 12 aren't younger than 15? :roll:

The 15 is in reference to the Lions Academy squad.



Only the Future Stars aren't juniors. Levels One, Two and Three are AFL Lions junior club members.

Wrong again, you were wrong about the 642 juniors who signed on as Brisbane Lions members in 2009, thinking that they signed up for a club comp, and the only ones out of 30,000, and you are wrong about the lions academy 1,2,3, they also have what is called a rookie search, perhaps you should look it up.

levels 1,2,3 are also members of their own junior club within QLD

After obviously spending countless internet hours devoted to the Brisbane Lions and no doubt every other Australian football team that exists, your fanaticism does not pay off, because you are not involved on the ground, and have very little idea.

 

[spritzer]

A good coach would have at least 45-60 minutes of activities pre-planned to keep young minds interested at an AusKick session, while a bad/poor coach will only be able to keep them interested for a short time.

I suggest you might want to grab the coaching manual and have another go.

What i replied to was your initial post regarding a auskick session going for a hour, with a game only lasting 15 min.

I say again, i coached auskick, we played other auskick teams, within our club,under 6,7 and 8 and had half an hour games every week, the kids looked forward to it.

I have no idea where you coached, if you have coached, but a blanket statement like your opening post is just plain wrong.

 

[docbrown]

and you are wrong about the lions academy 1,2,3, they also have what is called a rookie search, perhaps you should look it up.

The rookie search players are there to get promoted into the academy... :roll:

levels 1,2,3 are also members of their own junior club within QLD

Not necessarily. 8 players from 2010 came from Auskick. Hence why the Academy members get signed up as Lions juniors so they're affiliated to the club.

After obviously spending countless internet hours devoted to the Brisbane Lions and no doubt every other Australian football team that exists, your fanaticism does not pay off, because you are not involved on the ground, and have very little idea.

This coming from an AFL fanatic posting on a Rugby League webpage after midnight...

 

[AuckMel]

What i replied to was your initial post regarding a auskick session going for a hour, with a game only lasting 15 min.

I say again, i coached auskick, we played other auskick teams, within our club,under 6,7 and 8 and had half an hour games every week, the kids looked forward to it.

And I say only a poor coach could keep kids interested for only half an hour like you state. As a parent I'd certainly be questioning whether it was worth it.

I have no idea where you coached, if you have coached, but a blanket statement like your opening post is just plain wrong.

It's only wrong IYO, but well run centres with excellent planning would be much the same and some would probably place even further emphasis on skill based drills. A game at the end should be a bonus.

 

[spritzer]

And I say only a poor coach could keep kids interested for only half an hour like you state. As a parent I'd certainly be questioning whether it was worth it.



It's only wrong IYO, but well run centres with excellent planning would be much the same and some would probably place even further emphasis on skill based drills. A game at the end should be a bonus.

What i said was that young kids have a limited attention span, and you have to change things around, perhaps you have a limited reading span, because you made a huge jump from that, to i must be a poor coach for stating the obvious.

You can plan, but you must also be flexible, and not only is it MO, but its a fact that many auskick games go for longer than 15 minutes, you are the one that made the statement, "that anyone who tells you otherwise must be shouted down ".

 

[spritzer]

The rookie search players are there to get promoted into the academy... :roll:



Not necessarily. 8 players from 2010 came from Auskick. Hence why the Academy members get signed up as Lions juniors so they're affiliated to the club.



This coming from an AFL fanatic posting on a Rugby League webpage after midnight...

All those countless hours studying Australian football club webpages must be paying off, you are starting to get there, but you are missing one vital ingredient, and that is on the ground experience, and as we all know that is, where it really happens, at the coal face.

That is why you get so confused about quite simple numbers and statements, like the one about the 30,000 auskickers and the 642 members, and that is why you are confused about what is a member and what is a player.

As far as posting after midnight, well i am free to post at any time, but i can tell you that it was far from midnight where i am.

 

[Karl]

Yes it's just kind of sad that kids forced by their schools to participate are then labelled AFL juniors.

I don't care how they are labelled, but Schools that don't offer alternatives need a kick in the pants. Neither of my kids will ever play AFL, they don't watch AFL, they barely know it exists, but when the school says you have to play Auskick - what are they going to do? They'll run around and kick a footy if that is all that is on offer, but they both think it's a dumb game and would rather play Rugby. If League was on offer they'd love to have a crack at that too.

 

[Karl]

What are you mumbling on about?

AFL run Auskick. If a kid gets forced to do Auskick for PE without a choice he is included in the AFL's annual participation numbers whether he wants to or not. They will become part of that grand total number that gets thrown about in the annual report. Alot of the time too the same number overlaps with primary school participation and they get counted twice.

These are the numbers they submit for government reporting. For example-

http://www.ausport.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/436122/ERASS_Report_2010.pdf

In this report in NSW & QLD AFL is listed as having a higher participation rate than Rugby Union. :roll:

Rugby needs to get off it's arse and get it's schools program working outside the GPS Senior Schools

 

[docbrown]

All those countless hours studying Australian football club webpages must be paying off, you are starting to get there, but you are missing one vital ingredient, and that is on the ground experience, and as we all know that is, where it really happens, at the coal face.

That is why you get so confused about quite simple numbers and statements, like the one about the 30,000 auskickers and the 642 members, and that is why you are confused about what is a member and what is a player.

As far as posting after midnight, well i am free to post at any time, but i can tell you that it was far from midnight where i am.

You're obviously a poor coach and not even from Queensland so everything you post is just speculation.

And by the way, people who talk about being at the coal face are usually wankers.

 

[docbrown]

but when the school says you have to play Auskick

Hence why Auskick numbers are so dodgy.

 

[woodyk2]

Auskick was great for my kids,they loved it. Never saw league with any initiative at the school.

 

[Karl]

My kids like it well enough, but they'd rather be playing Rugby.

It's the fact they have no choice - where are League and Union? No presence at all.

 

[spritzer]

You're obviously a poor coach and not even from Queensland so everything you post is just speculation.

And by the way, people who talk about being at the coal face are usually wankers.

Using your rather childish argument, about me not being from QLD, is easily countered by me stating that you should not post about Australian Football, because you actually have no real experience at a club or team that plays Australian Football, all your knowledge has been gained, from years of sitting behind your computer getting all your information all mixed up, because of a lack of real experience.

I might also note that in the link that you provided Australian football is in the top ten CLUB based sports in Australia, rugby league is not.

NSW and QLD have very high Auskick rates because their is many after school auskick centres usually at schools, the southern states have far fewer.

 

[docbrown]

Using your rather childish argument, about me not being from QLD

It was your childish argument:

but you are missing one vital ingredient, and that is on the ground experience, and as we all know that is, where it really happens, at the coal face.

You are not at the :lol:coal face:lol: in Queensland so by your own logic you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

is easily countered by me stating that you should not post about Australian Football, because you actually have no real experience at a club or team that plays Australian Football

The only person who has admitted that they have no involvement in the Queensland junior system is you.

I might also note that in the link that you provided Australian football is in the top ten CLUB based sports in Australia, rugby league is not.

You mean the link that I posted as a specific example of how the AFL fudges their numbers?

In this report in NSW & QLD AFL is listed as having a higher participation rate than Rugby Union.

Learn how to read a methodology report, idiot.

As Karl said:

but when the school says you have to play Auskick

The Auskick numbers are dodgy.

 

[AuckMel]

What i said was that young kids have a limited attention span

I know what you said. 30 minute skills, then a 30 minute game because kids have a limited attention span. If you, as a coach, can only keep their attention for 30 minutes at a session, then you're doing a poor job and should have another look at the manual for things to keep them occupied.

and you have to change things around, perhaps you have a limited reading span, because you made a huge jump from that, to i must be a poor coach for stating the obvious.

As I said above, 30 minutes on skills is poor and a reflection on the coach. 5-10 minutes alone should be on warm ups and stretches.

You can plan, but you must also be flexible, and not only is it MO, but its a fact that many auskick games go for longer than 15 minutes, you are the one that made the statement, "that anyone who tells you otherwise must be shouted down ".

Fair point although I made sure game time was limited to no more than 15 minutes.