AVFTH: Should Andrew Johns be stripped of his Immortal status?

[Radio LeagueUnlimited]

In light of an extraordinary career full of highs and lows, do you think Andrew Johns deserves to be a Rugby League Immortal? Should he be stripped of his Immortality?

Poll results and discussion in this thread will be aired on A View From The Hill this Saturday morning (11:00-12:00).

Season 12, Episode 12: 18 May, 2013
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[gUt]

Yes, if anyone should be allowed to live forever it should be Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

 

[Lambretta]

For what reason?

Because he commentates for Channel 9?

I know that's a silly, silly, silly thing to get caught up in and his brother made a far better decision to get himself sacked and picked up by Foxtel, but stripping Andrew Johns of his immortality because he works for a Vossless company is over the top imo

 

[East Coast Tiger]

The "Immortals" is a magazine promotion. Nothing more.

 

[ek999]

Why?

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

I say no based this incident being non-rugby league and the fact I haven't kept up with the full story because horse racing is almost as irrelevant as it gets for me but I really wouldn't care if he did. The immortals is an outdated concept for one magazine anyway.

 

[Glenn]

No, unless there is some criminal charge.

 

[Meth]

No.

What a stupid question.

 

[Lambretta]

I say no based this incident being non-rugby league and the fact I haven't kept up with the full story because horse racing is almost as irrelevant as it gets for me but I really wouldn't care if he did. The immortals is an outdated concept for one magazine anyway.

Oh it's the Joyous Gyp thing

Right. Errrr. Johns was drunkenly chatting with people at the horses.
Stories are embellished slightly.
Egos are bruised
Conclusions are jumped to
Fur flies
No one took a deep breath and calms the f**k down
Fingers are pointed
Excuses are made
Mole hills are made to look like Everest on steroids
Papers print endless reams of gash because there's nothing else happening of note (where is a Wayne Rooney type getting 15 year old grandmothers pregnant when you need one?)
Jumped up power hungry twots demand answers or threaten life bans from doing your dough at the races

Johns should be stripped of immortality status for caving to such a threat. He should have seen it as an opportunity to stop paying bookies money and told them all to get stuffed.

But he got on the pingers when he played - so he'll forver be an immortal in my eyes. But then so will Danny Wicks. I have a skewed view on life I admit.

 

[POPEYE]

Only if being an Immortal meant something to people other than those struggling for IQ points. Surely if being drug induced is not a deterrent to simple minded idolatry his other indicretions are only misdemeanors

 

[gypsy]

No. Immortal status is given solely for performance on the field.
What an idiotic thread/discussion point.

 

[Charlie124]

He shouldnt have been considered in the first place so since he was inducted the whole concept has been cheapened forever.

 

[gypsy]

He shouldnt have been considered in the first place so since he was inducted the whole concept has been cheapened forever.

It's purely an on field award! How do some merkins have so much trouble with this concept...

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

He's a Queenslander, he can barely spell his own name.

 

[Charlie124]

It's purely an on field award! How do some merkins have so much trouble with this concept...

Exactly, and he admitted to taking drugs his whole career, while playing....wait for it.....ON THE FIELD. Illegal drugs that would improve his mood and/or state of mind, allowing him to play better than he otherwise would have had he not taken them. They might not have been labeled "performance enhancing" or "steroids" but if they made him feel better and relax more or whatever it was that he got out of them then to me thats enhancing your performance.

He's a drug * and nothing more.

 

[Jobdog]

Absolutely ridiculous question to ask.

The Immortals are based purely on on-field achievements. This had nothing to do with on-field achievements.

Why should something off-field change how we perceive someone's ability on it?

 

[BennyV]

The "Immortals" is a magazine promotion. Nothing more.

I agree. The fact that {insert favourite player} wasn't included is an outrage, he was the heart and soul of {insert favourite club/state} through their dominant years. How he wasn't chosen over {insert totally deserving yet subjectively illegitimate immortal} shows how much the selectors dont know about rugby league and cheapens the whole concept.

 

[MSIH]

Exactly, and he admitted to taking drugs his whole career, while playing....wait for it.....ON THE FIELD. Illegal drugs that would improve his mood and/or state of mind, allowing him to play better than he otherwise would have had he not taken them. They might not have been labeled "performance enhancing" or "steroids" but if they made him feel better and relax more or whatever it was that he got out of them then to me thats enhancing your performance.

He's a drug * and nothing more.

Judging by that logic, taking a panadol or drinking water is performance enhancing.

 

[BennyV]

Judging by that logic, taking a panadol or drinking water is performance enhancing.

It is...bloody pansies playing the sport these days...

 

[Rod]

Exactly, and he admitted to taking drugs his whole career, while playing....wait for it.....ON THE FIELD. Illegal drugs that would improve his mood and/or state of mind, allowing him to play better than he otherwise would have had he not taken them. They might not have been labeled "performance enhancing" or "steroids" but if they made him feel better and relax more or whatever it was that he got out of them then to me thats enhancing your performance.

He said the few times he did it during the season it was after a game.

Pretty amazed this is even up for discussion TBH. Surely there are better issues in rugby league at the moment.