Axe the Sharks to make way for the Reds

[Loudstrat]

Really?

Gee we tried real hard to convert them didn't we.

Yep, been taking games there for 20+ years, even had a team there once.

 

[Loudstrat]

I suppose Melbourne have worked long and hard to push Rugby Leauge and the Storm but I think they're only ever going to get expat NSWelshmen and their partners and friends and a few sports nuts.

The last time I saw the grand final in Melbourne it was on at 1am in the morning.

In Adelaide the people are AFL. They are very strange, they don't even recognise that you're talking to them about Rugby League, They think you've got the flu or something and are delerious.

Perth, I think has a bit more hope. A lot of expats and a general acceptance of any form of entertainment by a spectacle starved population warrants interest.

Pretty much sums it up. Adelaide are more parochial/insular than Melbourne - who at least - because of their self labelling as the "sporting capital of the world" will at least go to League games to try and prove it to themselves.

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

have some faith in our product 20 yrs of having a team in these towns and we will make a considerable dent, more than the swans and lions have

 

[Green Machine]

I suppose Melbourne have worked long and hard to push Rugby Leauge and the Storm but I think they're only ever going to get expat NSWelshmen and their partners and friends and a few sports nuts.

The 2009 NRL Grand Final had a TV audience of 650k in Melbourne

The last time I saw the grand final in Melbourne it was on at 1am in the morning.

When were you last in Melbourne for a Grand Final?

 

[Brutus]

Yep, been taking games there for 20+ years, even had a team there once.

For two whole years we had a team there:lol:

And the first of those two years was in a split comp.

Yeah we gave it a real big shot :lol::crazy:

You talk as if games have been played in Adelaide for every season of those 20+ years.

 

[Jankuloski]

Does someone have the crowd averages from the time when the Rams and the Reds were in the NRL? For all the teams, in those seasons.

 

[Perth Red]

I did an analysis of it some time ago and the Reds and Rams were both mid table during that time in terms of Avg attendances.

Reds
1995 13390 (6th out of 20)
1996 8262 (12th out of 20)
1997 8776 (7th out of 10)
Biggest crowd 25,000

Rams
1997 (4th out of 10)
1998 (15th out of 20)
Biggest crowd 27,500

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

And the main reason why Adelaides crowds dropped in the second year was because they were forced to move grounds to a crummy little oval in the middle of no where.

Perth and Adelaide should never have died.

 

[Loudstrat]

Should never have died, but did.

 

[MsStorm]

Yep, been taking games there for 20+ years, even had a team there once.

:lol::lol::lol:

Loudy, think you might need some annual leave hun.

 

[Loudstrat]

On it babe. Now, disprove what I said.

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

Yep, been taking games there for 20+ years, even had a team there once.

27 games since 91
21 games 91-98 avg 13479 (adelaide oval)
6 games 98-2009 avg 7476 (hindmarsh)

21 of the games were played by the rams, followed by an 8 year break and only 2 games after we dumped the rams, so we have taken 6 games to adelaide of an 16 year period(taking out 2 years for the rams) or 1 every 2 1/2 years.
Is that how you claim we bulid a support base.

 

[Jankuloski]

@Perth Red, I meant compare the Reds with other clubs in the league, for example Parra. I want to know how did they do in relation to other clubs in the league.

^One important point is demonstrated by the data: People are much more intersted to support a team they view as their own - in this case a little under 50%. I am not sure it's allways that percent, it would be interesting to look at other cases - for example Gold Coast. Even though the percentage may differ, the principle is the same - if the people feel that they are represented by something they will support it, even if they are not interested in the sport. I have encountered this in organising a student comp here in Serbia.

 

[Brutus]

Should never have died, but did.

Just like the Bears.

Oh well...

 

[Perth Red]

@Perth Red, I meant compare the Reds with other clubs in the league, for example Parra. I want to know how did they do in relation to other clubs in the league.

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Take alook here mate. Reds were around 1995-1997(SL). It shows the home avg for each club over the years

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/summary.html

 

[DaSuperHero2]

Needless to say money talks and bullsh*t walks

Central Coast Bears , your time is near.

 

[Vossy]

Needless to say money talks and bullsh*t walks

Central Coast Bears , your time is near.

you are a perfect case study for "bullsh!t walks"

 

[Loudstrat]

27 games since 91
21 games 91-98 avg 13479 (adelaide oval)
6 games 98-2009 avg 7476 (hindmarsh)

21 of the games were played by the rams, followed by an 8 year break and only 2 games after we dumped the rams, so we have taken 6 games to adelaide of an 16 year period(taking out 2 years for the rams) or 1 every 2 1/2 years.
Is that how you claim we bulid a support base.

I'm not interested in building a support base in Adelaide. There is scane evidence that one can be built there anyway, no matter what money the NRL throws at it.

Perth is ahead of Adelaide in the pecking order, and other places are higher again. Perth is scraping the barrell, but evidence suggests that with perfect situations a Perth based NRL side can exist and compete. Adelaide - nup. Not with the current revinue streams in the code.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

I'm not interested in building a support base in Adelaide. There is scane evidence that one can be built there anyway, no matter what money the NRL throws at it.

Perth is ahead of Adelaide in the pecking order, and other places are higher again. Perth is scraping the barrell, but evidence suggests that with perfect situations a Perth based NRL side can exist and compete. Adelaide - nup. Not with the current revinue streams in the code.

You do realise that Perth and Adelaide could become "other" revenue streams. Same way as Melbourne are now.

 

[Loudstrat]

You do realise that a second Brisbane side and a Gosford side will provide bigger income streams quicker that Perth and especially Adelaide!