Big crowd Wallabies v Samoa..why cant RL do that?

[Timmah]

Do the sums my boy. Calculate the numbers that play, the number of family, friends and supporters and then consider that between 1985 and 2002 the numbers playing RUGBY almost doubled and the numbers playing League reduced by 25%.


Now understand that almost all the tickets at a RUGBY match are paid for. As an example....one company buys 100 category 'A' tickets for every Rugby Test and Super 12 game. It then Auctions those tickets and donates the proceeds to charity. The auction proceeds from staff exceed the face value of the tickets manyfold. Rugby fans have a community minded attitude that many on this site may have difficulty understanding. I have been fortunate to attend many Rugby games as a result of these 'CHARITY' auctions.

Please get your facts right.

All this goes to do is prove

A - you failed Maths

B - Rugby fans really are a bunch of self-righteous snobs.

Auctioning for charity? Working class people (league supporters as a generalisation) don't have the money to bid for League tickets as a charity proceed. People like us are the ones who pick 1 or 2 charities a year and donate money to them. We don't use our sport as a tool to make ourselves feel good or look better, our sport is one we attend by working all week and paying our way properly. And if you honestly think that an extra 20-30k would have turned up through this exercise or by any other means, you're a bigger fool than I thought. Furthermore, they didn't, and for an international, 38k is a pretty sh*t crowd. So read it and weep.

Oh and next time you want to argue - actually respond to my points rather than bringing up something that you were bound to get nailed on.

 

[Timmah]

Oh Graf, your argument, was so stinging.

You came out with all the retaliation of a frog. Come back when you have something to disprove me with you barney.

 

[Big Bunny]

why do people care so much? it is like most League supporters feel the need to put Union down, it is almost like some form of little brother inferiority complex.

Should just ignore it like the Unions types do with League.

What country are you from? In Australia union is the little brother and it's only had the upper hand in internationals for about 15 years. People on rugby league forums tend to be protective because of the union trolls who come on and try to stir up trouble, if you can't see that then you're a lost cause. Why don't you go take a look at a union forum, like on planetrugby and tell me that they don't bag rugby league on a regular basis.

You're clueless to say the least.

 

[Brutus]

What about the union test at the Telstra Dome against Italy.

Some tickets are going for 6 dollars and the whole top section was deemed not for sale. (the freebie section?).

What a joke.

 

[Graf Vynda-k]

S12's average TV audience in Oz of 33,000 per game is a bit of a laugh though. This comes from the ARU saying a total of 2.3 million watched S12 this year.

look copa, if S14 was marketed propa and shown on free to air then it would soon rival rleague in popularity........and the more it expands and becomes a truely national comp with a melbourne team in the future, the further behind it will leave that simplistic lower social strata sport of rleague.

 

[Graf Vynda-k]

Matey, If you think that Rugby Union is more popular than Rugby League in Australia, then you are one deluded Ma La Ka.

The fact that you ignored the post where one State of Origin will have had more viewers than the (fudged, if you read the facts) total Super 12 season infact makes you King of all Ma La Ka's.

so what, the last world cup final had more viewers in oz than more origins you can poke a stick at.

see everyone can be selective with stats.

 

[Graf Vynda-k]

Oh Graf, your argument, was so stinging.

You came out with all the retaliation of a frog. Come back when you have something to disprove me with you barney.

dont be so dismissive of frogs......they can be very ferocious when provoked and they terrorise insects.......and that means you dodge, you have the intellect of a demented gnat!!!:iwstupid:

 

[DIEHARD]

State of Origin isn't LIVE nation wide, the Yawnyawn world cup final was.

It wasn't a level playing field.

 

[Brutus]

so what, the last world cup final had more viewers in oz than more origins you can poke a stick at.

see everyone can be selective with stats.

You'll be still pointing to those stats in 10 years time. One game out of an entire World Cup than spanned how many weeks? The ratings most most of the lead up games were atrocious.

I hear cycling rated really well at the Olympics as well. We love events, no matter what the sport.

 

[gaterooze]

so what, the last world cup final had more viewers in oz than more origins you can poke a stick at.

Um, no, it had the ratings of 1.4 SOOs (and that's with only being shown live in 2 states). And since we have 3 SOOs every year, and Union has one World Cup Final in Australia... ONCE EVER, I know which I would prefer to back :lol:

 

[gottabegood]

so what, the last world cup final had more viewers in oz than more origins you can poke a stick at.

see everyone can be selective with stats.

Matey, you are very predictable, I knew this would be your response.

Yes that game did rate well, ONE game since time began........

So again, good on ya for loving your nominated sport, but your spin doctoring is the work of a malaka. Talk real or I will be sending Emperor Malaka Patrick Smith to hand over his crown to you.

 

[gaterooze]

One game out of an entire World Cup than spanned how many weeks? The ratings most most of the lead up games were atrocious.

They were, literally, the worst in Channel Seven's history. That's not an exaggeration, that was reported as cold fact.

 

[Brutus]

They were, literally, the worst in Channel Seven's history. That's not an exaggeration, that was reported as cold fact.

I remember those articles.

I'd love if someone could dig them out from somewhere. :lol:

 

[taipan]

It is worth bearing in mind that tries are worth five points in rugby union. Don't forget that the best team in rugby league was leading the second best team 42-0 at half-time, until the Kangaroos eased down a bit.

Using four points for a try, the result today is equivalent to Australia 63 Samoa 6. There have been scores like this in the NRL.

Wouldn't you love to see a genuinely competitive, and widespread international rugby league programme?

The time in play in union is far less than rugby league point one,there are 2 less players in league.Sth Africa thrashed the wallabies a few yrs ago.
After watching the Fiji and Samoa tests I ask the same question,is this classified as a genuinely competitive international programme.
Fiji and Samoa have been playing rugby league since the ark,and they are not getting any better,and Sth Africa thrashing Uruguay 130 plus is hardly competitive.
Competitive,England,Sth Africa,Australia,NZ,France,Ireland and throw in Wales.thats 7,no one outside that group has a ghost of a chance in the 2007 rugby unionWC .
mate even Eddie jones is embarrassed for the island nations after these results.

 

[gottabegood]

look copa, if S14 was marketed propa and shown on free to air then it would soon rival rleague in popularity........and the more it expands and becomes a truely national comp with a melbourne team in the future, the further behind it will leave that simplistic lower social strata sport of rleague.

Sorry matey, have to have another dig.

Ask yourself this, why is S12 no longer on FTA in the first place......

Your living in a bubble.........or just stirring for fun.

 

[gaterooze]

look copa, if S14 was marketed propa and shown on free to air then it would soon rival rleague in popularity........and the more it expands and becomes a truely national comp with a melbourne team in the future, the further behind it will leave that simplistic lower social strata sport of rleague.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Super 12 was shown on Free To Air for years and, guess what, they dropped it because it rated through the floor.

Union has already tried and spectacularly failed in competing with League on a week to week basis.

Put it into perspective for you... Solely on Foxtel, an average League game rates 8-10 times better than an average S12 game. And this is with the two best League games a week shown on Free to Air, and Foxtel being the ONLY place to watch S12.

Some more perspective:

This year more Australians watched 1 round of NRL than watched the entire season of Super 12.

And that happens every single week.

 

[0neye]

I was watching the all Maori V The British and Irish Lions yesterday on Austar & ficking back & forwards to the Raiders V the Broncos game & i have to say the Union looked better ;()

 

[Moffo]

I was watching the all Maori V The British and Irish Lions yesterday on Austar & ficking back & forwards to the Raiders V the Broncos game & i have to say the Union looked better ;()

That would be because you are a tool and was more than likely viewing the game out of your rear orrifice

 

[taipan]

And lots of poker machines, too.

Yep and the parramatta rugby union can thank poker machines via the leagues club,for their financial support.And there are others.
BTW with the new TV contracts the reliance on poker machine money will be far less and in some cases non existent.

 

[Timmah]

That would be because you are a tool and was more than likely viewing the game out of your rear orrifice

:lol: