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Bigger fields or less players?

madunit

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Neither. All dumb f**king ideas. Go watch rugby 7s
OK call me radical, but as a player from the 80's.... when players were so much smaller, no where near as fit or fast there seemed a lot more space on a standard footy field.
An average player being 85kg in the 80's and today they are 100kg+
There's also the interchange to consider.....to make more space make the field bigger...or lets just drop a couple of players and do 11's.
Or just make it even easier get rid of the interchange and bring back the smaller 80 minute player.
 

macnaz

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Set a total team weight limit and allow teams to fill it with whatever number/ size players within the limit.
But some teams would have dodgy scales , provided by a rich third party and thus manipulate the weight rule ;)
 

T-Boon

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Set a total team weight limit and allow teams to fill it with whatever number/ size players within the limit.

Haha, thats crazy. I like it.
So e.g., maximum weight 1400kg - you can have 14x100kg players (13 on plus 1 on bench) or you could have 17x82kg (13 on plus 4 on bench). Or unlimited variations in between.
Brilliant. A bit off topic, but very cool idea.
 

myrrh ken

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Haha, thats crazy. I like it.
So e.g., maximum weight 1400kg - you can have 14x100kg players (13 on plus 1 on bench) or you could have 17x82kg (13 on plus 4 on bench). Or unlimited variations in between.
Brilliant. A bit off topic, but very cool idea.


What's this plus crap? All on the field. No subs.
 

OVP

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It makes sense to go to 11 men because that has the added advantage of making it easier to put a local team together and also everyone gets paid more at the professional levels.

Gee fancy meeting you in a thread like this :rolleyes:

Remember the password to one of your old alt accounts hey ?
 

Wests is Best

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Good thread. Seriously speaking, I have often thought that there appears to be less space in the field these days to what there was say 30-35 years ago. I was not sure if its to do with the modern wide screen tv format making players look huge or if its because in the 80's it was normal to have a halfback defending as a sweeper leaving as little at 10 in the defensive line once wingers started to drop back.

Agree with an earlier poster that they need to play with rules like 40/20 to stagger the line a bit more rather than take the radical step of changing the number of players on the field.
 

T-Boon

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I suppose the halfback defending as a sweeper is no longer a thing because nobody chip kicks in their own half anymore - that is too risky for currently gutless coaches and also totally unnecessary as you can just gobble up 8 or 10 metres each tackle without any risk.
If 40/20 became 40/30 (or better "anywhere 40") the D configuration would need to be a 10 man line with 3 back. Or with markers 2-8-3.
So much more space to go lateral. The code would go gang busters.
 

adamkungl

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Good thread. Seriously speaking, I have often thought that there appears to be less space in the field these days to what there was say 30-35 years ago. I was not sure if its to do with the modern wide screen tv format making players look huge or if its because in the 80's it was normal to have a halfback defending as a sweeper leaving as little at 10 in the defensive line once wingers started to drop back.

Agree with an earlier poster that they need to play with rules like 40/20 to stagger the line a bit more rather than take the radical step of changing the number of players on the field.

It's because it is a professional sport and in professional sports players and coaches get better over time and actually train properly instead of playing footy as a side job and smoking a pack after each game.

Tweaks are needed to keep attack and defence balanced, of course, but most of the ideas people come up with are nonsense that would significantly change the game.
 

T-Boon

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It's because it is a professional sport and in professional sports players and coaches get better over time and actually train properly instead of playing footy as a side job and smoking a pack after each game.

Tweaks are needed to keep attack and defence balanced, of course, but most of the ideas people come up with are nonsense that would significantly change the game.

Very confusing post.
You acknowledge in paragraph one the game has CHANGED because of professionalism. You said in paragraph two we better not make big rule changes because the game will change.
Like you said, the game already changed...while we were procrastinating about rules and coaches were getting technical.
Its because of procrastination regarding rule changes that we are stuck with the products of professionalism - wrestling, boring conservative tactics and an apparent lack of space on the field.
Make 40/20 - 40/30. WTF is the big deal?
 

betcats

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Very confusing post.
You acknowledge in paragraph one the game has CHANGED because of professionalism. You said in paragraph two we better not make big rule changes because the game will change.
Like you said, the game already changed...while we were procrastinating about rules and coaches were getting technical.
Its because of procrastination regarding rule changes that we are stuck with the products of professionalism - wrestling, boring conservative tactics and an apparent lack of space on the field.
Make 40/20 - 40/30. WTF is the big deal?

Why do we need to make it easier for teams to get piggy backed down the field? We just did that with the 7 tackle set we don't need another imo, the risk v reward of a 40/20 is perfect imo, I don't want to see good hookers and halves kicking 40/30s 5 times a game, they should earn that good field position it shouldn't be easy.

Less interchanges is the way to go if you want to open the field up, piggybacking teams into good field position just negates half the field and would become very boring imo, it certainly doesn't create more space.
 

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