Billy Smith - Legend who hasn't been shown true Respect by NRL & media

[maestro1]

Is there any reason why there is never any accolades thrown Billy Smith's way whenever the NRL and media discuss the heroes of yesteryear or player accomplishments.
Billy's team mates and opponents cannot talk high enough of him, but he never enters the "immortals" discussion or any other recognition, despite being arguably the best halfback ever. He was one of the first selected for St George, NSW and Australia in his era, loved by his team mates, respected by his opponents and this was over a long period of time. It boggles the mind how we don't hear more about him. It seems like he is mirroring the great St George team in that the NRL and media don't want to acknowledge just how awesome they were. There is definitely a feeling of, we we don't discuss it, it never happened.

 

[jak]

Is there any reason why there is never any accolades thrown Billy Smith's way whenever the NRL and media discuss the heroes of yesteryear or player accomplishments.
Billy's team mates and opponents cannot talk high enough of him, but he never enters the "immortals" discussion or any other recognition, despite being arguably the best halfback ever. He was one of the first selected for St George, NSW and Australia in his era, loved by his team mates, respected by his opponents and this was over a long period of time. It boggles the mind how we don't hear more about him. It seems like he is mirroring the great St George team in that the NRL and media don't want to acknowledge just how awesome they were. There is definitely a feeling of, we we don't discuss it, it never happened.

good old Billy had a habit of telling anyone of authority what they probably did not want to hear.

 

[Coffs dragon]

Still my all time favourite & best halfback that I’ve seen play the game. He had it all and was tough as teak.
His combination with Changa Langlands was next level.
He was the heart & soul of the mighty Dragons during his career.
In my opinion, he shits all over Joey Johns whom was wrongly given immortal status.

 

[Inisai Toga]

Agree for what ever reason that he’s not in the narrative he’d be in my best 3 easy! Loved watching him play, tough clever, skilful, defence …had everything. He’d usually win the best rep award Sunderland Medal until off field behaviour maybe took its toll…. otherwise probably add the 1972 test series and 73 Kangaroo tour to his record. His combination with Chang is unequalled and had to be seen to be believed.

 

[maestro1]

good old Billy had a habit of telling anyone of authority what they probably did not want to hear.

Yes.... And Andrew Johns had a drug problem. None of which had anything to do with how great a player he was. None of that should come into it.

 

[maestro1]

Still my all time favourite & best halfback that I’ve seen play the game. He had it all and was tough as teak.
His combination with Changa Langlands was next level.
He was the heart & soul of the mighty Dragons during his career.
In my opinion, he shits all over Joey Johns whom was wrongly given immortal status.

My thoughts exactly 100 %

 

[Old Timer]

Is there any reason why there is never any accolades thrown Billy Smith's way whenever the NRL and media discuss the heroes of yesteryear or player accomplishments.
Billy's team mates and opponents cannot talk high enough of him, but he never enters the "immortals" discussion or any other recognition, despite being arguably the best halfback ever. He was one of the first selected for St George, NSW and Australia in his era, loved by his team mates, respected by his opponents and this was over a long period of time. It boggles the mind how we don't hear more about him. It seems like he is mirroring the great St George team in that the NRL and media don't want to acknowledge just how awesome they were. There is definitely a feeling of, we we don't discuss it, it never happened.

I loved Billy as a player and saw a lot of his career and fair to say he was great player in a very tough era and of course had to change from unlimited to 4 tackle rule and did so successfully whereas many did not.

Back to back Sunderland medals in test series against the Poms and Kiwis shows his ability and in 5 seasons he missed 1 test match due to injury which showed his toughness and commitment.

I remember some years ago Billy was interviewed on the radio about playing for Australia and that was at the time when Thurston and others were whinging that test players should be payed more.

Billy in his usual direct fashion made it known that in his days you were "invited" to play for your country and that was an honor and you didn't expect to get paid anything for the privilege let alone insinuate you might not play.
That interview was immortal IMO.

There are so many greats from that era Smith, King, Irvine, Sattler, Mc Carthy, Summons, Kelly, Diamond etc etc that you could consider all of them worthy of immortal status but the system doesn't allow for that and as time goes on their legacy diminishes as other great deeds on the field are more recent, easier to recall and of course the TV coverage keeps them in the forefront of the medias memory.

If it were up to me I would have immortal sides for the different eras in rugby league and if that was the case Billy would already be in.

I would be less aggrieved if Johns wasn't an immortal and if Thurston gets a nod before Billy then the system is completely f**ked.

 

[maestro1]

Yes, definitely agree to all of that, but Billy was better than those and at least equal to the already Immortals. Definitely better than Johns. Thurston was better than Johns although not much between them.

 

[Sage63]

Is there any reason why there is never any accolades thrown Billy Smith's way whenever the NRL and media discuss the heroes of yesteryear or player accomplishments.
Billy's team mates and opponents cannot talk high enough of him, but he never enters the "immortals" discussion or any other recognition, despite being arguably the best halfback ever. He was one of the first selected for St George, NSW and Australia in his era, loved by his team mates, respected by his opponents and this was over a long period of time. It boggles the mind how we don't hear more about him. It seems like he is mirroring the great St George team in that the NRL and media don't want to acknowledge just how awesome they were. There is definitely a feeling of, we we don't discuss it, it never happened.

When I was a kid (halfback), I idolised him but as I got older I heard too many negative and disturbing stories about him during his social outings, especially from his neighbors, who apparently, he frequently intruded upon.