swineape said:
JJ said:
Sea_Eagles_Rock said:
Pigskin said:
xwizit said:
true champion. that wanker on here who says "brad fittler, 300+ average games and counting" needs a few uppercuts.
that would be me .... many confuse longevity with greatness
he has been a solid player for many years, and more recently has learnt to speak
an immortal of the game ? get real, he wouldn't tie Wally's shoe laces
Oink !
Judging by Wally's commetary he'd be lucky to tie his own shoe laces.
:lol: :lol: :lol: good stuff!
Fittler's a great, but he's no Wally. As for an immortal, I doubt it - there are many very great players who are not yet immortals (e.g., Sterling, Kenny, Lazarus, Clyde, Daley, Langer, Meninga, etc etc), and I don't know that Fittler's done anything to surpass them. But a great career nonetheless
You can take Kenny :lol: off that list, along with Daley, Clyde and Sterling. Fittler has been without peer in his chosen position for the past 7 years. Most of these blokes had rivals who could at any given time replace them and the (Australian) team would lose nothing. Freddy has been a regular in the Oz team for a decade. Few, if any have made the same impact on the international scene. Lazarus was special but would only ever be considered because he played in so many winning Grand Finals. Meninga is the one most likely but must have porked some immortals selectors mother - he is never considered for some reason. He and Fittler had the same dominance in their favourite position.
That's just rubbish:
Kenny was obviously in Wally's era, but he dominated at club level, NSW had a winning record when he played at 5/8 (I'm pretty sure that nobody else during Wally's tenure could claim that), and versatile enough to always be the first centre picked for Australia.
Sterling was without peer as a half - Mortimer was a good player, but let's be honest, Sterling was clearly the best half around (to my mind he should be the next immortal if there are to be more).
Daley was always rated above Fittler - but injury affected his career. His leadership was a big part of NSW becoming the domimant SOO team in recent years (recall - he was the 5/8, not Fittler)
Clyde IMO is the greatest lock ever - a complete footballer - again injuries hampered him.
As for your comment on Lazarus - isn't the game about winning??? Was it a coincidence that Canberra, Brisbane and Melbourne all won premierships with him?? And NSW dominance?
On Meninga, I disagree - Kenney and Miles were always rated more highly than him - great player, but not an immortal IMO.
Again, Fittler like all those players is an all-time great - but he has always been prone to going missing in games, something nobody could ever acuse Daley and Sterling of doing. He's had his great matches, but he's also had dismal failures - he was captain when Vautin's no-names swept a strong NSW team and he did very little.
Moreover, he has never really been rated as the best player in the game. Early in his career Langer, Daley, Clyde etc were all rated more highly. While in recent times Andrew Johns and Darren Lockyer have laid claim to being the best in the game
I'm a big fan of his, but he's no immortal. That is a very exclusive club, to me Sterling is closest next.
