Brisbane3 - What is needed to make it a successful bid?

[Red&BlackBear]

As always, like with the Bears, appreciate your information and insight.

Thanks, not sure how much I’m adding tbh. Jets project isn’t something I’m as passionate about as Bears for obvious reasons (changing my user to Green&WhiteJet isn’t on the cards anytime soon).

But I have invested heavily over the years into South QLD including Ipswich. I have a lot of colleagues who are deep in the Jets trenches. I respect Ben and Brian’s push for their brand and greater region to be expanded into the competition. I appreciate the Ipswich rugby league resources it has provided to the game for decades and Jets history.

There’s exciting things on the cards for this would-be franchise. Should it be in front of NZ2? Probably not. Not everyone will agree with the Jets approaches to this (there will be and has been various) but they are deserving.

As for @Pippen94 nothing against his opinion (and I shouldn’t have made fun of head injuries, sorry mate) but sometimes things you read online aren’t reflective of how it really is in the real world (especially with local insight). I get your view on Dolphins, plenty will have the same. It just isn’t what’s actually happening here.

 

[Pippen94]

This screams of someone who has no idea how the Queensland NRL clubs are seen by locals, and has quite evidently never lived in SE QLD. Broncos, Dolphins support isn’t isolated to a specific part of the city. Matter of fact Logan has a crapload of people who support Phins and you’ll see a lot of Phins merch on locals in a very traditional southern part of Brisbane. In a strong RL heartland. Go to Hyperdome, you can see it for yourself.

Titans and Cowboys equally have strong support spread across QLD. Sure they are supported at their strongest within their geographical regions but there’s a decent spread across the state.

There’s a reason Terry chose not to push a geographical name onto Dolphins NRL. He didn’t want to isolate. You’re also confusing catchment of juniors to spread of support. By your own metric South Sydney would be a western Sydney team simply because they play at Homebush…

I get you want to argue but how your portraying just isn’t the truth. Definitely not to me, who is as local as they come to South QLD.

Phins might located on the north, but they aren’t a club specific to just the north. They could have chosen Brisbane as their geographical name, it was in the cards but they also didn’t want to be pinned to just greater Brisbane either.

Jets intend to be the same. Located in the west but very much a broader South Queensland club.

I don't need to live in Brisbane to know how world works. Just like you didn't need to live in Perth to argue with Perth red about expansion there for the past 12 months. Dolphins website literally state it's catchment area as starting in North Brisbane. 3rd Brisbane team is being pitched as western corridor side. It'll be based there, play there & have branding associated with area..but not local side sure lol!!

 

[steeden.]

Toowoomba is because Wagners are hovering as potential commercial partners. Sunshine Coast is because that ground is getting an Olympics upgrade. Dolphins will take a game there once those works conclude as well (that’s a fact).

I assume the Sunshine Coast game will be the current Perth game? The redevelopment is due to finish 2027 from memory. Or will they look to sell a home game interstate still and move a Dolphin Oval game?

 

[Pippen94]

He’s easily one of the best posters here.

Consistently wrong about Perth expansion. Never owned up to it.

 

[Pippen94]

Thanks, not sure how much I’m adding tbh. Jets project isn’t something I’m as passionate about as Bears for obvious reasons (changing my user to Green&WhiteJet isn’t on the cards anytime soon).

But I have invested heavily over the years into South QLD including Ipswich. I have a lot of colleagues who are deep in the Jets trenches. I respect Ben and Brian’s push for their brand and greater region to be expanded into the competition. I appreciate the Ipswich rugby league resources it has provided to the game for decades and Jets history.

There’s exciting things on the cards for this would-be franchise. Should it be in front of NZ2? Probably not. Not everyone will agree with the Jets approaches to this (there will be and has been various) but they are deserving.

As for @Pippen94 nothing against his opinion (and I shouldn’t have made fun of head injuries, sorry mate) but sometimes things you read online aren’t reflective of how it really is in the real world (especially with local insight). I get your view on Dolphins, plenty will have the same. It just isn’t what’s actually happening here.

Just attacking me and not argument. I live there and you don't is not an argument. We can apply that to every non Qld discussion if you want?!

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Just attacking me and not argument. I live there and you don't is not an argument. We can apply that to every non Qld discussion if you want?!

Mate, considering how thick you are, it’s not hard to attack you. You claimed in another post to know how the world works, what world are you referring to? World of Warcraft? Because it isn’t this world and certainly isn’t the world of NRL clubs in qld. Good for you though, stand tall and think you’re right.

Consistently wrong about Perth expansion. Never owned up to it.

Was I? I take it back, go get your head scanned.

I don't need to live in Brisbane to know how world works. Just like you didn't need to live in Perth to argue with Perth red about expansion there for the past 12 months. Dolphins website literally state it's catchment area as starting in North Brisbane. 3rd Brisbane team is being pitched as western corridor side. It'll be based there, play there & have branding associated with area..but not local side sure lol!!

Sure buddy, as you will. I didn’t need to live in Perth no, but there was a brand associated with that expansion bid that I might know a thing or 2 about and from the start stated that’s where my association was with… It’s alluding me which brand it was. Mariners? Nah can’t be it.. maybe Rams?

Maybe all SEQLD clubs needs to be located in the same building? Just one big high riser to avoid the confusion you’re clearly suffering, but not one else does.

 

[Pippen94]

Mate, considering how thick you are, it’s not hard to attack you. You claimed in another post to know how the world works, what world are you referring to? World of Warcraft? Because it isn’t this world and certainly isn’t the world of NRL clubs in qld. Good for you though, stand tall and think you’re right.


Was I? I take it back, go get your head scanned.



Sure buddy, as you will. I didn’t need to live in Perth no, but there was a brand associated with that expansion bid that I might know a thing or 2 about and from the start stated that’s where my association was with… It’s alluding me which brand it was. Mariners? Nah can’t be it.. maybe Rams?

Maybe all SEQLD clubs needs to be located in the same building? Just one big high riser to avoid the confusion you’re clearly suffering, but not one else does.

I presented facts; literally cited dolphins website stating it's catchment. What you offer is anecdotal. Unless you're across every strata of society and demographic that's a single isolated account. No Donkeys was pretty proud of being from Logan and held resentment against other parts of Brisbane. Same city different view. Facts are better.

 

[Canard]

There is no "catchments" in Queensland RL.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

I presented facts; literally cited dolphins website stating it's catchment. What you offer is anecdotal. Unless you're across every strata of society and demographic that's a single isolated account. No Donkeys was pretty proud of being from Logan and held resentment against other parts of Brisbane. Same city different view. Facts are better.

No, you didn’t. You took a blurb from their page which was done in 2022 - created a few months after they were officially granted entry before the parameters of what the club was really trying to achieve was recognised.

Also from their page - 18 months later they wrote this when hitting 30k members

Thank you! We've reached 30,000 Dolphins members

The Dolphins have taken time to say thank you to their massive supporter base in Brisbane and south-east Queensland today as they announced a staggering membership milestone for the NRL’s newest club.

www.dolphinsnrl.com.au

The Dolphins have taken time to say thank you to their massive supporter base in Brisbane and south-east Queensland today as they announced a staggering membership milestone for the NRL’s newest club.

For reference (because you don’t have a clue about what you’re talking about) SE QLD is a massive area, covers a lot of regions and “catchments”. Brisbane is a massive territorial city with 4 geographical sides to it.

I can guarantee you, when I talk to Terry and he talks shop regarding his goal for the Phins - he never isolates them to a location. He sees the club as a QLD club, no matter where you’re from they want your support, no matter where juniors play they will look to recruit.

But please continue with your presumed facts mate, and please keep harping on about stuff you have no clue about and better yet, please keep lecturing people who have direct involvement in the game here that you must know better. You’ve provided a good dose of comedy this evening and you’ve showed that you are out of your depth on yet another topic.

 

[flippikat]

This screams of someone who has no idea how the Queensland NRL clubs are seen by locals, and has quite evidently never lived in SE QLD. Broncos, Dolphins support isn’t isolated to a specific part of the city. Matter of fact Logan has a crapload of people who support Phins and you’ll see a lot of Phins merch on locals in a very traditional southern part of Brisbane. In a strong RL heartland. Go to Hyperdome, you can see it for yourself.

Titans and Cowboys equally have strong support spread across QLD. Sure they are supported at their strongest within their geographical regions but there’s a decent spread across the state.

There’s a reason Terry chose not to push a geographical name onto Dolphins NRL. He didn’t want to isolate. You’re also confusing catchment of juniors to spread of support. By your own metric South Sydney would be a western Sydney team simply because they play at Homebush…

I get you want to argue but how your portraying just isn’t the truth. Definitely not to me, who is as local as they come to South QLD.

Phins might located on the north, but they aren’t a club specific to just the north. They could have chosen Brisbane as their geographical name, it was in the cards but they also didn’t want to be pinned to just greater Brisbane either.

Jets intend to be the same. Located in the west but very much a broader South Queensland club.

Interesting points - and the lack of geographical names for the Dolphins & the next SEQ NRL club makes sense in that respect - given that support isn't as compartmented by suburb (or even "region of SEQ") as Sydney is.

 

[Pippen94]

Mate, considering how thick you are, it’s not hard to attack you. You claimed in another post to know how the world works, what world are you referring to? World of Warcraft? Because it isn’t this world and certainly isn’t the world of NRL clubs in qld. Good for you though, stand tall and think you’re right.


Was I? I take it back, go get your head scanned.



Sure buddy, as you will. I didn’t need to live in Perth no, but there was a brand associated with that expansion bid that I might know a thing or 2 about and from the start stated that’s where my association was with… It’s alluding me which brand it was. Mariners? Nah can’t be it.. maybe Rams?

Maybe all SEQLD clubs needs to be located in the same building? Just one big high riser to avoid the confusion you’re clearly suffering, but not one else does.

Se Qld reference is in relation to this:
"When The Dolphins were first announced in 2021, there was confusion as to why 'Redcliffe' was not included in their name given the clear links the team had to the area.

The reasoning behind the decision from the NRL is the desire to broaden the supporter base of the club beyond the Redcliffe Peninsula, with the ever-expanding Sunshine Coast in particular a market of interest.

"This is about owning not just Brisbane and having a second Brisbane team but owning the north as well", NRL CEO Andrew Abdo said"

https://www.nospam47.com/au/rugby-l...are the second,Redcliffe in the city's north.

 

[Pippen94]

Interesting points - and the lack of geographical names for the Dolphins & the next SEQ NRL club makes sense in that respect - given that support isn't as compartmented by suburb (or even "region of SEQ") as Sydney is.

It's because they are targeting sunshine coast too. Third team will be in Ipswich, but similarly try to encompass Logan and Toowoomba.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Se Qld reference is in relation to this:
"When The Dolphins were first announced in 2021, there was confusion as to why 'Redcliffe' was not included in their name given the clear links the team had to the area.

The reasoning behind the decision from the NRL is the desire to broaden the supporter base of the club beyond the Redcliffe Peninsula, with the ever-expanding Sunshine Coast in particular a market of interest.

"This is about owning not just Brisbane and having a second Brisbane team but owning the north as well", NRL CEO Andrew Abdo said"

https://www.nospam47.com/au/rugby-l...are the second,Redcliffe in the city's north.

For f*cks sake give it up mate.

The post I just did trumps whatever bullcrap you’re trying to dig up of articles previous to that date. Get a clue, you’re wrong so move on.

The Phins have all but given up on the Sunshine Coast from a strategic football aspect but for the sake of pushing their broad franchise appeal to all parts of QLD they still promote their brand there. They also promote their brand in every other region of QLD too through various mediums.

The SEQLD reference is in relation to all of SE QLD hence why it’s stated as SEQLD. Any local knows SEQLD means Sunny Coast to Gold Coast, Redlands/Bay Side to Ipswich even Toowoomba. That is literally what SEQLD is. Christ, you’re a dumb one aren’t ya and the fact you think you know what you’re talking about is comical.

 

[Pippen94]

For f*cks sake give it up mate.

The post I just did trumps whatever bullcrap you’re trying to dig up of articles previous to that date. Get a clue, you’re wrong so move on.

The Phins have all but given up on the Sunshine Coast from a strategic football aspect but for the sake of pushing their broad franchise appeal to all parts of QLD they still promote their brand there. They also promote their brand in every other region of QLD too through various mediums.

The SE QLD reference is in relation to all of SE QLD hence why it’s stated as SEQLD, Christ you’re a dumb one aren’t ya.

With all due respect if somebody states how connected they are online it's very dubious. Many sources state dolphins name is to target sunshine coast. This article shows partnership with local university.
“We both share a base from the Brisbane northern corridor, Moreton Bay and Sunshine Coast and we are proud to work together to benefit our communities,”
https://www.dolphinsnrl.com.au/news/2024/12/09/dolphins-and-unisc-to-keep-scoring-shared-goals/

Unless I take what you say at face value there's nothing to indicate what you is state is correct. Infact it appears the opposite is true.

 

[Perth Red]

If dolphins are covering western corridor do we need another nrl club there? I could understand it if there was a stadium in Ipswich to play out of but there isnt and no sign there will be so does se qlnd need another ‘the’ when it already has two clubs appealing to all of Brisbane and surrounding areas?

 

[Pippen94]

If dolphins are covering western corridor do we need another nrl club there? I could understand it if there was a stadium in Ipswich to play out of but there isnt and no sign there will be so does se qlnd need another ‘the’ when it already has two clubs appealing to all of Brisbane and surrounding areas?

Lol, bears would have more fans in Ipswich than dolphins

 

[Marlins]

5 teams would round out QLD.
North Queensland Cowboys
- 12 games @ Townsville
Sunshine state Dolphins
- 5 games @ Sunshine Coast (upgraded stadium)
- 7 Games @ Lang Park
Brisbane Broncos
- 12 Games @ Lang Park
South Queensland Jets
- 5 Games @ Ipswich or Toowoomba (Upgraded stadium)
- 7 Games @ Suncorp
Gold Coast Titans
- 12 Games @ Gold Coast
The NRL should be working with the QLD Gov for upgraded venues at Sunny Coast & Ipswich or Toowoomba fit for NRL standard.

 

[Canard]

Lol, bears would have more fans in Ipswich than dolphins

I mean, no.

Just no. We know you're the forum idiot, but this makes you like like @Wb1234 level brain faded.

 

[Canard]

5 teams would round out QLD.
North Queensland Cowboys
- 12 games @ Townsville
Sunshine state Dolphins
- 5 games @ Sunshine Coast (upgraded stadium)
- 7 Games @ Lang Park
Brisbane Broncos
- 12 Games @ Lang Park
South Queensland Jets
- 5 Games @ Ipswich or Toowoomba (Upgraded stadium)
- 7 Games @ Suncorp
Gold Coast Titans
- 12 Games @ Gold Coast
The NRL should be working with the QLD Gov for upgraded venues at Sunny Coast & Ipswich or Toowoomba fit for NRL standard.

Hey Gov, can you spend $1B across three venues, so we can play 2 or 3 games a season there?

And after a few years realise what a shit idea that is, and abandon said venues?

Pretty please???

 

[mongoose]

If dolphins are covering western corridor do we need another nrl club there? I could understand it if there was a stadium in Ipswich to play out of but there isnt and no sign there will be so does se qlnd need another ‘the’ when it already has two clubs appealing to all of Brisbane and surrounding areas?

I've always supported Sunshine Coast getting its own team. Sure Dolphins can market themselves there and try and get fans but the Sunny Coast and Redcliffe are very culturally different. Need Kawana stadium upgraded to 20k at least.