Broncos chances in 2016

[papabear]

:crazy::crazy:

And who are these 8 clubs?

almost half the comp I said.

Whilst the broncos scored a lot of points in 2015, they also played to their peak far more then any other side cowboys included.

Their attack is pretty much an occasional block play to create an overlap when in the 20 metre zone or give the ball to hunt / milf and hope they create.

The following sides, I think playing at their best* will be harder to defend then the broncos (obviously the broncos will probably score a lot more points then some of these sides, because the broncos always show up, whilst alot of these sides go to sleep).

NZ
Canberra
Tigers
Manly
Parra
Cowboys.

Then there are the sides, who can play with a high level of consistency even if there creativity at times is lacking like the broncs
souths (although they fell off a cliff at the end of last year)
easts

and the sharks / dogs - who have the consistency but even less creativity then the broncos.

I trust that answers your question.

 

[betcats]

Tigers had no attack at all last season even at their best. It was just Tedesco.

 

[chigurh]

Brisbane only finished 4th in points scored in 2015 so there is definitely some room for improvement. Another year of experience for the halves and their combination together, favourable rule changes and some added speed should all help. Not sure I would rate sides like Parra and the Tigers ahead of them no matter what warped logic you try to apply lol

 

[Maroon4life]

Brisbane only finished 4th in points scored in 2015 so there is definitely some room for improvement. Another year of experience for the halves and their combination together, favourable rule changes and some added speed should all help. Not sure I would rate sides like Parra and the Tigers ahead of them no matter what warped logic you try to apply lol

Or the Raiders & Manly, I will let him keep the cowboys and Warriors as alot of their points come against the run of play as I'm assuming that's what he is getting at.

 

[papabear]

Brisbane only finished 4th in points scored in 2015 so there is definitely some room for improvement. Another year of experience for the halves and their combination together, favourable rule changes and some added speed should all help. Not sure I would rate sides like Parra and the Tigers ahead of them no matter what warped logic you try to apply lol

I noted in my original post that brisbane did score a lot of points last year. They probably will again next year.

That success though, imo is due to their comparative creativity or crispness in attack but due to their high levels of concentration and consistency.

Parra played with a fair bit of variation I thought, though again the wheels fell of them during games all the time and having disruptions like sandow in and out and paulo in and out didn't help them.

Brooks and Moses are very poor defenders, but moses is quite direct, and brooks has a nice touch of creativity to them, they don't have the same willingness to create as they did in the benji days but they are still capable of putting on some great tries.

The difficulty the broncos have imo is not in their list (there list is excellent - gun halves, very good backline, strong back row, good enough props, admittedly they dont suffer salary constraints, but short of being a rep team you couldnt ask for much more) but their coaching style/game plans, you saw in the first 20 minutes of the GF what they were capable of, but imo they to often play to the score board / result, instead of just playing good footy on each play or as often as possible.


To put in a different way, melbourne played with a relatively simple plan but just perfected that and their set plays and that was enough to bring them alot of success, ST G (under bennett) and now under the broncos just do that.

Easts and souths had success thorough a sheer power game. But NQLD won on skill in attack, imo RL is moving to a point now, where most sides have improved that consistency / power game and the big differentiator will be skill in attack. The broncos have the capacity for that, but imo there style while continue to focus on keeping it simple in attack and there defence (which to be fair was absolutely excellent).

 

[BranVan3000]

They will be top 4 again but they will have a target on them now and a lot of teams to hone in on weaknesses. I don't overly rate their pack either but it may turn out the new interchange benefits them

 

[Kiwi]

I noted in my original post that brisbane did score a lot of points last year. They probably will again next year.

That success though, imo is due to their comparative creativity or crispness in attack but due to their high levels of concentration and consistency.

Parra played with a fair bit of variation I thought, though again the wheels fell of them during games all the time and having disruptions like sandow in and out and paulo in and out didn't help them.

Brooks and Moses are very poor defenders, but moses is quite direct, and brooks has a nice touch of creativity to them, they don't have the same willingness to create as they did in the benji days but they are still capable of putting on some great tries.

The difficulty the broncos have imo is not in their list (there list is excellent - gun halves, very good backline, strong back row, good enough props, admittedly they dont suffer salary constraints, but short of being a rep team you couldnt ask for much more) but their coaching style/game plans, you saw in the first 20 minutes of the GF what they were capable of, but imo they to often play to the score board / result, instead of just playing good footy on each play or as often as possible.


To put in a different way, melbourne played with a relatively simple plan but just perfected that and their set plays and that was enough to bring them alot of success, ST G (under bennett) and now under the broncos just do that.

Easts and souths had success thorough a sheer power game. But NQLD won on skill in attack, imo RL is moving to a point now, where most sides have improved that consistency / power game and the big differentiator will be skill in attack. The broncos have the capacity for that, but imo there style while continue to focus on keeping it simple in attack and there defence (which to be fair was absolutely excellent).

I see what you are trying to say, don't really agree with you that the Broncos lack creativity. Just because the Broncos do the hard yards first, get their defense right, completion rates right etc, does not mean they lack creativity, just means they are doing things the right way around. What guys like Thurston, Milford, Morgan, Roberts, Cooke, Hunt, Cronk, Slater etc do is all them, these guys aren't coached to do the freakish stuff they do, coaches who are smart come up with game plans that give these players time and room to strut their stuff. One club was creative and good enough to attempt and score a try directly from a kick off, by spreading it, taking the risk and succeeding. Broncos scored some brilliant solo and team tries as a result of set plays, natural ability, broken field play and/or consistency.

 

[papabear]

I see what you are trying to say, don't really agree with you that the Broncos lack creativity. Just because the Broncos do the hard yards first, get their defense right, completion rates right etc, does not mean they lack creativity, just means they are doing things the right way around. What guys like Thurston, Milford, Morgan, Roberts, Cooke, Hunt, Cronk, Slater etc do is all them, these guys aren't coached to do the freakish stuff they do, coaches who are smart come up with game plans that give these players time and room to strut their stuff. One club was creative and good enough to attempt and score a try directly from a kick off, by spreading it, taking the risk and succeeding. Broncos scored some brilliant solo and team tries as a result of set plays, natural ability, broken field play and/or consistency.

I agree that the real talented players aren't coached to that talent, they have the skill and work ethic to get to that level.

That said the broncos players you have mentioned got to that level imo under different coaches.

Look I agree that the broncos have there defence 100% right and that is why they made the GF and almost won the GF. With a bit of luck they might win it next year.

All I am saying is when the raiders face the broncos, when the broncos have the ball I am not as nervous of them scoring on an individual play as a lot of other sides... That said I am concerned about whether the raiders have the mental toughness to stay in the grind enough to get over the top of them with a bit of skill...

There is a difference between a completion rate of 90% with 4 one out hit ups and a 90% completion rate with good attacking footy played through out. One is a sure way to win (as long as you don't f**k shit up), the other way requires your defence to be flawless and the other side to not be awesome.

 

[JJ]

The whole comp is set up for the Broncos to do well. Every year they don't make the top 4 as an absolute minimum is an abysmal failure. They should win the comp and win it well.

Thread should have ended here - f**k the Broncos