BS is a Legend......

[True EEL]

because being a realist and expressing an honest opinion formed on fact and personal beliefs is against the law on this forum.....

i just want everyone to know that i think that BS - Brian Smith - is an absolute legend of a coach and a great all-round Aussie bloke and i will cease from expressing any other opinion about him ever again as it is not worth arguing for what you believe in against narrow minded people who think that two weeks of success at the end of 3-4 horrible years is tolerable

so, here's to BS coaching Parra until the end of the 2026 season

go hard Brian, you are indeed a living legend

 

[Stagger eel]

I believe your acting like a complete and utter tool.

There isn't person on this forum that thinks Smith is a legend. so I'll try and catagorise the sort of division we have here!

1] Those who hate him [thats you]

2] Those who have been highly critical of him about decisions made on and off the field over the past three years [ Misty and Suit]

3] Those who are prepared to right through the storm and put up with it until success does come. [Alex, Strider, Goparra]

I see myself between 2 and 3 probably leaning towards 2 at the moment at the end of the day we're for a common goal not to slander people!

 

[GAME FIRST]

Its not a personal issue with Brian- he is just a losing coach who once takes control doesnt have the creativity or know-how to make a consistent winning team- instead it all goes pear shaped- he is a confident and passionate speaker but his obssesed with structure instead of good footy and instinctive players who know how to adjust within matches- he has no clue here- he also thinks halfbacks must be stereo-types instead of full control and trust in his half to do what he sees best.

Its sad but true!

 

[Eelectrica]

I thought this thread was going to be about Ben Smith. #-o

Ultimately it's up to Dennis Fitzgerald to pull the trigger on Smith. Up until this year I've had faith in Smith.

Maybe during the off season Fitzy will decide that Smith needs more help in the coaching Dept. and bring in Peter Sharp, Matt Elliot and Daniel Anderson as Assitants :shock:

 

[bradeel]

where the hell did this come from all of a sudden?

have i missed something?

i am aware that this has been a pretty poor season and Coach Smith's job is on the line but surely the past 2 wins and our remote tilt at a finals berth can ease the detractors for another week or two???

 

[Wagonator]

Oh yes and you the opinions of those listed detractors will surely make a difference, get a life and just support your team. If you know so much about what has gone so wrong, go out, get a coaching certificate and apply for the job. THen you can impress all the supporters that ride with the club through good and bad.

 

[Misty Bee]

Wagonator, he IS suporting his team. He wants it to win, not like the SMith apologists who are happy to see it lose!!!!!

Why oh why do you defend the bloke that makes this club fail?????????

 

[eloquentEEL]

GF, I disagree with almost every point in your post.

Its not a personal issue with Brian- he is just a losing coach who once takes control doesnt have the creativity or know-how to make a consistent winning team- instead it all goes pear shaped-

Your team doesn't break the season point scoring record without "the creativity or know-how to make a consistent winning team". I believe BS has both the creativity and the know-how. This involves taking risks and you can't win a premiership without taking a few risks. BS takes risks, but they have lately been mostly going wrong.

he is a confident and passionate speaker

No... I don't believe that BS is a passionate speaker. I believe this is his MAJOR flaw. The main thing the team lacks is motivation.

but his obssesed with structure instead of good footy and instinctive players who know how to adjust within matches- he has no clue here- he also thinks halfbacks must be stereo-types instead of full control and trust in his half to do what he sees best.

Its sad but true!

one of the major areas where a coach adds value to a team is in giving them a game plan. if you just want to rely on "instinctive players" then there's no point in having a game plan and you're missing out on value from the coach. when the halfbacks do what they see best, rather than following the game plan, that's when we lose. a few weeks back there was an interview with Hindy that went something along the lines of:

Q: that was an impressive performance. why do you think you won today?

A: it's simple. we stuck to the game plan.

Q: how many times have you stuck to the game plan this year?

A: how may times have we won?

 

[Misty Bee]

Eels2win, is there a reason that Pony Holloway is not coach of Parramatta?

2001 is history. We have a differnt coach. Todays coach takes 20 odd weeks to select a half at half and a 5/8 at 5/8!

 

[parra-all-the-way]

exactly eels2win i agree here....you need plans to stick to, but having said that the 1\2 needs to be able to go with his gut feeling too...

 

[fish eel]

This thread is just rubbish TE.

You've put some pretty strong views in other threads....and I'm assuming that this thread has resulted from what william hung said???

If thats the case....I think this is poor form......what you aere saying is, in fact, that people cant challenge your views on a discussion board.

 

[eloquentEEL]

Eels2win, is there a reason that Pony Holloway is not coach of Parramatta?

2001 is history. We have a differnt coach. Todays coach takes 20 odd weeks to select a half at half and a 5/8 at 5/8!

did you miss the bit I wrote about risks? he's never going to satisfy everyone anyway. half the people are screaming for him to change the halves combo and the other half are screaming for him to stop messing with the combo and let them settle.

and perhaps you also missed the bit about following the game plan? the Eels managed to win some very tough matches with Wagon at 5/8. If having Wagon at 5/8 was such a huge mistake then we should have lost pretty much every match. i would say that a bigger factor in losing those matches was lack of motivation and not following the game plan. before you label me as a blind BS lover that thinks he is god, notice that I think that BS is flawed in the motivation stakes (one of his major responsibilities, whether he does it himself, or gets someone else in to rev them up).

 

[MarkInTheStands]

I Support my team, I want to see them win, and to tell the the truth leading in to many games I see how we can win. In Saying that I also support our Coach because he is part of the club I support.

There are things we are doing right, there are things we are doing wrong, and lets hope we don't repeat our mistakes, because that would be a problem.

Now before you say we have repeated our mistakes, I would disagree.

2002, Mistake - Not being able to see that the 10 metre interpretation would be changed, so let bulk go.

2003, Mistake - Focusing on Utility players to fill the departures of Positional Players

2004, Mistake - Relying too much on forward recruitment to not be able to compete during a major stretch of the year.

Having said that I believe that Misty Bee said that we would be in a better position had we won our games against Canberra, Cronulla, North Queensland, Melbourne X2 and a Saints Reserve grade outfit. I would say we could have gotten the Cronulla, and North Queensland for sure, we were in winning positions in those games. If we win those games we would have been in the 8, instead of 12th all season.

I wonder how much that would have changed everyone’s opinions.
It seams Parramatta People have a passion for constant change off the field but not on it.

We have a stable CEO, yet most want him pitched for providing a solid base form which we have built on over the last 10 years.

We have a coach that knows what he is going to be doing, and while you all might disagree with some of his calls, at least he isn't going to die wondering, which for listing to most of you, you believe we will. You believe that we will never again win a premiership in the foreseeable future unless Smith and Fitzy are let go. That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but. . .

These people also have a goal and that goal is to win a premiership as soon as possible. In speaking with Brian Smith the day after the 2001 grand final, he believed that the people we had coming on would help make us scary in 2002, unfortunately, the rule changes and a forced lack of constancy hindered our year.

Have we recovered from the 2001 loss? Some may say we have not, all I can say is that we aren’t as low right now as we were the off season of 2001 - 2002.

 

[eloquentEEL]

exactly eels2win i agree here....you need plans to stick to, but having said that the 1\2 needs to be able to go with his gut feeling too...

as long as the rest of the team is on the same page then it may pay off some of the time, but when you have a half that goes with his gut instead of the game plan, how can that possibly be blamed on the coach?

 

[True EEL]

I believe your acting like a complete and utter tool.

There isn't person on this forum that thinks Smith is a legend. so I'll try and catagorise the sort of division we have here!

1] Those who hate him [thats you]

2] Those who have been highly critical of him about decisions made on and off the field over the past three years [ Misty and Suit]

3] Those who are prepared to right through the storm and put up with it until success does come. [Alex, Strider, Goparra]

I see myself between 2 and 3 probably leaning towards 2 at the moment at the end of the day we're for a common goal not to slander people!

no i'm not acting like a tool

i'm just sick of being criticised and personally attacked for expressing my opinions.....some people here should practice what they preach

 

[True EEL]

and i certainly haven'ty slandered anybody - i've been the one slandered about things i have siad

 

[True EEL]

This thread is just rubbish TE.

You've put some pretty strong views in other threads....and I'm assuming that this thread has resulted from what william hung said???

If thats the case....I think this is poor form......what you aere saying is, in fact, that people cant challenge your views on a discussion board.

no its not rubbish

and people can certainly challenge my views, that goes without saying......my argument is let me have my views and don't abuse me for having them.....

it just seems that you can't say anything about BS when we are winning - that is so narrow minded and you can barely say anything about him at the best of times

and again its not personal - just as Game First said - its just about pointing out his deficiencies as a coach - and yes that is my opinion, but it seems like if i voice it strongly i get labelled as being personal (even though i don't say personal things against him) or an idiot who doesn't know anything and i'm sick of it

as i said above a lot of people on this site need to do a hell of a lot of praticing of what they preach.........

 

[True EEL]

oh and by the way thanks for the vote of confidence and support Misty

 

[fish eel]

Its a freakin message board TE!

If your gonna come out with strong opinions.....you have to expect people that disagree to come back at you just as, if not stronger.

Apart from someone saying they didnt care what you were saying, I didnt see any real personal abuse flung at you???

 

[William Hung]

TrueEel

Lighten up dude- we all wants best for the club- you should support the team the best you can though rather than constant BS bashing.