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Matt23

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My thinking is I hope it is'nt true, but i have a sinking feeling that there is a possibility that this time there might be something to it.
 

The Colonel

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I think your smarter than what we give you credit for UT ;-) ..... I'll give you this much. Lets just say I think you are saying what a lot of us are thinking. Its just that responsibly and legally we can't say it just yet. And what I know is what is printed in the paper - or what I've seen on the news.
 

Doctor

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Untouchable said:
Matt23 Oswin and Colonol Eel.

Ok, ok let`s throw the wolf out the door for a minute.

Answer me this, answer me this....Just yes or no.

Do YOU think that they did it?
What`s your mind telling you?

I don't know all the facts of the story, and neither do you - if you did, I'd suggest you would be talking to the NSW Police now with your eye-witness account instead of fuelling the story.

I don't know any names, places, times etc - how can I possibly have an opinion on something I only know from the media.
You obviously can't name names, but I honestly haven't heard any names - nor do I want to until the police have charged someone - if and when they do.
 

B.L.L.G

Retired
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Oswin

You wanna know what i find offensive?
Your picture of Jesus there!

That offends me man.

Look....I don`t think people realise the magnitude of this alright!
This is serious and you don`t just make something like this up for the hell of it.
They have ALREADY confirmed in the police report that a medical examination confirmed what happen there`s your evidence!

This will drag out for months it should be taken care of tomorrow...right now!

I came up here to the library to write a topic on C.S.I.
I was up till 2am last night working and i come up with C.S.I. C*ck Smokers Investigation.
I wanted to share it with you.
Plus...last night we watched a DVD called Darkness Falls.....10 minutes into the movie a black out occured and our entire area was in darkness till 3am.
It was so coincidental that we were watching a movie called Darkness Falls then all the power goes out and the house was in complete darkness.

And also, i had some horse tips for y`all.
Big races today people.
Here, here i`ll show you.

ADL Rce 5 number 7 Skewiff
ADL Rce 6 numbers 6+15 Redadan & Al Zimer

TAZ (Launceston Rce 7 numbers 5+9+10 Liquid Lunch Nikalapko & Almost Spring

It was ganna be a fun day....It was pouring....i was riding in the rain and large puddles...The Picture mag comes out today.......horse betting BUT this got me down....

It`s UNJUST thats all.
I just wanted to let y`all know that i`m against it and our silly system that protects the wrong.
I wanna be heard you know?
Cause really, i`ve got a big mouth that wants to speak out.

I`ll shut up now.

I`m going home.
 

antonius

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Your post in here as far as I'm concerned is ok hasn't broken any rules. Just don't name names UT. The points you make (some of them anyway) have puzzled me also UT, the hidding of convicted crims faces is beyond me, Why they do that I have no idea. As for the question re last years incident, well the charges were dropped, for whatever reason, who knows? the fact is that is why you cannot throw names around, because you are slandering potentially inocent people, and as everyone knows mud sticks. Like I said it's fine to talk about it, but until people are offically named speculation and rumour are a no-go.
 

Kaz

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UT

Everyone knows this is a serious matter.

But posting stuff that hasn't been proven, can get the owners of this site in all sorts of Legal drama.

Thankfully most of the forum members on this entire site, are asking others not to post things that could be a legal minefield.

I hope you can understand why we are giving warnings.
 

The Colonel

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Has there ever been this many moderators post in a thread outside of M&A? :lol:

You truly are a firecracker UT! ;-)
 

B.L.L.G

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P.S. sorry for coming across so angry today but this really riles me.

LOOK! Are you over looking my comment about the medical examination that took place that has already confirmed that something happen?

How do you explain that?
Isn`t that the evidence to take action.

I bet you a hundred bucks that we will never hear the names of those accused.

Take a moment out and think of that poor girl.
If she`s lying then i owe y`all a great big apoligy.
 

Doctor

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Untouchable said:
Oswin

You wanna know what i find offensive?
Your picture of Jesus there!

That offends me man.

Look....I don`t think people realise the magnitude of this alright!
This is serious and you don`t just make something like this up for the hell of it.
They have ALREADY confirmed in the police report that a medical examination confirmed what happen there`s your evidence!

This will drag out for months it should be taken care of tomorrow...right now!

I came up here to the library to write a topic on C.S.I.
I was up till 2am last night working and i come up with C.S.I. C*ck Smokers Investigation.
I wanted to share it with you.
Plus...last night we watched a DVD called Darkness Falls.....10 minutes into the movie a black out occured and our entire area was in darkness till 3am.
It was so coincidental that we were watching a movie called Darkness Falls then all the power goes out and the house was in complete darkness.

And also, i had some horse tips for y`all.
Big races today people.
Here, here i`ll show you.

ADL Rce 5 number 7 Skewiff
ADL Rce 6 numbers 6+15 Redadan & Al Zimer

TAZ (Launceston Rce 7 numbers 5+9+10 Liquid Lunch Nikalapko & Almost Spring

It was ganna be a fun day....It was pouring....i was riding in the rain and large puddles...The Picture mag comes out today.......horse betting BUT this got me down....

It`s UNJUST thats all.
I just wanted to let y`all know that i`m against it and our silly system that protects the wrong.
I wanna be heard you know?
Cause really, i`ve got a big mouth that wants to speak out.

I`ll shut up now.

I`m going home.

Don't turn this into an attack on me or Jesus, Untouchable - I apologise if it seems like I'm attacking you, I have nothing against you.

I'm just doing my best to explain how sensitive these things can get - I've read a bit about defamation law and know from experience that evidence can and will be removed - thereby taking the legitimacy from your argument.

Just be careful - otherwise, continue with your reg-style rants. ;-)
 

The Colonel

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Untouchable said:
P.S. sorry for coming across so angry today but this really riles me.

LOOK! Are you over looking my comment about the medical examination that took place that has already confirmed that something happen?

How do you explain that?
Isn`t that the evidence to take action.

I bet you a hundred bucks that we will never hear the names of those accused.

Take a moment out and think of that poor girl.
If she`s lying then i owe y`all a great big apoligy.

No need to be sorry IMO UT.

I have seen the reports of the medical examination - and yes there is probably a case for someone to answer however the police need to confirm who that person or persons are. The police are acting on this evidence however they need to explore all facts. Cases have been lost and won on the minutest of details.

I also doubt anyone here hasn't thought about the girl.......
 

B.L.L.G

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So it`s a slanderous matter if i name names?
So i can`t name a name but i can imply a whole football team?

I must take Legally Blonde and Les Norton up on that offer to study law and all that whole court room nonsense cause i haven`t got a frig`n clue how things work.

Look, i`m getting a head ache and i`m almost Bulldogged out.

I wanna say one more thing.
How many more concessions for them?
How many more spin doctors for them?
How many more excuses?
Don`t insult my f*cken intelligence ok!
They should be booted out!
And hey...i haven`t even mentioned that whole Belmore/Bankstown mentallity that their fans are renouwned for! Looks like their following suit.
Bulldogs are criminals.

*OUT*
 

antonius

Coach
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Untouchable said:
P.S. sorry for coming across so angry today but this really riles me.

LOOK! Are you over looking my comment about the medical examination that took place that has already confirmed that something happen?

How do you explain that?
Isn`t that the evidence to take action.

I bet you a hundred bucks that we will never hear the names of those accused.

Take a moment out and think of that poor girl.
If she`s lying then i owe y`all a great big apoligy.

That being the case(the DNA testing) then if she presses charges and it goes to court the accused will eventually be named, you can bet on it UT. All that's being said here is don't speculate. (Out loud anyway) By the way, yes I feel exactly as you do in regards to the girl if what is being claimed is in fact true.
 

Andy

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I agree with a lot of the things you've said here UT. But I also agree with the part of the law that protects people's names until proven guilty or at least charged.

A reputation can take a lifetime to build and literally seconds to destroy.
People know this, and that is why we have such laws.
 

Alex28

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some people here have absolutely no idea how the legal process works.

it happened 3 days ago. at the moment there is NO evidence that the guy you want to name did the crime. there is nothing on film, the police do not have any DNA to prove the guy did anything to the woman in question.

at the moment there is NO EVIDENCE! you cant back your claims can you? the guy/s might have done it...they might not have. let the police do their job and we will find out in time...

if you want to name names - get your own website and do it there. if you are wrong - it's only your arse that gets sued...
 

legallyblonde

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February 25, 2004 - Daily Telegraph - http://www.news.com.au

FOUR Bulldogs players have agreed to DNA tests as the young woman alleging she was pack raped at a coastal resort recounted the ordeal to detectives yesterday.

The 20-year-old Coffs Harbour woman spent all day being interviewed by police and broke down as she detailed the allegations.

The woman is determined to pursue her alleged attackers - up to six have been accused of rape and police have interviewed four of them so far.

Police have obtained medical evidence which may support her claims. Four investigations are now under way including one by the NRL which has threatened to throw the Bulldogs out of the competition if its players are found guilty.

"We have the power to deregister players the NRL believes to be guilty of bringing the game into disrepute," NRL boss David Gallop said.

Deregistering means players cannot be employed by another club and effectively ends their careers. Mr Gallop said the league also could fine the Bulldogs up to $1 million for bringing the game into disrepute.

Detectives are expected to travel to Sydney today to interview Bulldogs players.

Last night the woman was taken to a safe house outside of Coffs Harbour where she was being comforted by family.

Police are looking into allegations up to six Bulldogs players assaulted the woman in the pool of the Pacific Bay Resort in the early hours of Sunday.

Yesterday official police records alleged one of the players admitted he had consensual sex with the woman while three others denied playing any role.

The victim told police the horrific attack included vaginal, anal and oral sex without her consent.

It emerged a cleaner helped her to a room and police and the ambulance service were called about 9am.

One Bulldogs player also showed concern and provided assistance.

A doctor was flown from Sydney and treated her for grazing, bruising and trauma.

DNA tests were taken which are currently at the police forensic laboratories.

The names of four players were offered to police and they were briefly interviewed before leaving the mid-north coast town on Sunday night.

The Bulldogs played Canberra in a trial match on Saturday night and many of the 25-man NRL squad hit the local nightspots.

The woman and her friend met some of the players in town. The alleged victim's friend went to the resort with a player but she had the 20-year-old's wallet.

The alleged victim reportedly accepted a lift with a player to the resort but could not find her friend.

She was then allegedly taken to the pool about 6am by up to eight Bulldogs players, pulled in and out of the pool and repeatedly assaulted by at least six players.

The Daily Telegraph
 

Alex28

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LB - no doubt something happened. but no one has the evidence to name names yet...heck she only knows one of the names (according to the SMH).

let the law take it's course and the guilty will pay the price for their actions.
 

legallyblonde

Juniors
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i wasn't saying anything about the matter mate...I study justice, so I know how it all works....best not to say anything, just posted this for everyone to have a read.
 

~bedsy~

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If I was a Bulldogs supporter I would not want to follow them any more. The whole thing is just discusting in it's own right. The fact that now they need to give grown men a curfew because they can't be trusted is just bad form....but it looks like it needs to be done.
I agree with how David Gallop wants to handle it as well.
 

Andy

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At the end of this whole ordeal the poor girl and RUgby League are the biggest losers.

Our game's reputation has taken a big blow already and this will take a long time to heal.

I feel very sorry for the girl involved. Just to imagine the fear and pain she's gone through.
 

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