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Cameron McInnes

Who’s the better dummyhalf for ‘22 & ‘23?

  • Cameron McInnes

    Votes: 46 54.8%
  • Ben Hunt

    Votes: 38 45.2%

  • Total voters
    84

muzby

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It should be compulsory that the NRL, the Club or the Players Union hold a policy to cover long term injury to players. In many cases it is called workers compensation, in other cases it is liability cover. The are plenty of industries that have such cover.
The clubs cover the players so that they get paid whilst injured.

Why would they need extra insurance?
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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It should be compulsory that the NRL, the Club or the Players Union hold a policy to cover long term injury to players. In many cases it is called workers compensation, in other cases it is liability cover. The are plenty of industries that have such cover.
Footy is different though, I'm sure there is some insurance stuff in place but normal industries like for example the trades in which I work injuries are relatively uncommon especially career ending. In footy most players will at some stage of their career have a at least one serious injury that puts them out for the better part of a season or more. Basically in footy its not a matter of if but more when, in regards to injury. That is why the game turned pro in the first place because the blue collar league players couldn't afford the time off their white collar cousins could in Rugby.
 

possm

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The clubs cover the players so that they get paid whilst injured.

Why would they need extra insurance?
It is not just a matter of club funds, it is a restriction on the club to operate as it effects the club's salary cap. In this case it seems that McInnes is handing over his rehab to Cronulla while the Dragons pay his salary. If he was covered by under a medical insurance policy, then he could ask for a release and do what he pleases and the Draongs could replace him within their salary cap.
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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Hey 2012, f**k off back to your own forum if you are going to be a dick.
Show some respect you twat.
In my life whenever I have been a cock head and boasted about stuff it has bitten me on the arse in the form of Karma. I remember one time I was boasting at work all day about how I was about to go on a 3 week scuba diving trip the following day and the scaffold I was working on collapsed and shattered my leg and hips, which I never really recovered from. I don't know if Karma is actually true or not but you won't find me on another forum boasting about anything. I will share the wins and losses on here alone, even if Karma isn't true it's good practice to not be a dick.
 
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muzby

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It is not just a matter of club funds, it is a restriction on the club to operate as it effects the club's salary cap. In this case it seems that McInnes is handing over his rehab to Cronulla while the Dragons pay his salary. If he was covered by under a medical insurance policy, then he could ask for a release and do what he pleases and the Draongs could replace him within their salary cap.
I see..

So you’re seeking a policy which covers season ending injuries for players who aren’t employed by their employer the following year, even though they’ll get full contractual compensation from their current employer..

Good luck with that..
 

possm

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In my life whenever I have been a c**k head and boasted about stuff it has bitten me on the arse in the form of Karma. I remember one time I was boasting at work all day about how I was about to go on a 3 week scuba diving trip the following day and the scaffold I was working on collapsed and shattered my leg and hips, which I never really recovered from. I don't know if Karma is actually true or not but you won't find me on another forum boasting about anything. I will share the wins and losses on here alone, even if Karma isn't true it's good practice to not be dick.
Well I happen to know that cricketers at all levels who register to play competition cricket with a cricket club are covered for injury by Cricket Australia through an insurance scheme/policy. I understand the same is the case with soccer.

But there is another twist to this story. If the Dragons wanted to pay out McInnes's contract, he still could not be replaced and our salary cap would not be creditied. The NRL should rectify this problem not just for the Roosters (a made up rule developed for the Roosters on the run) but for all clubs who find themselves in a similar situation through no fault of their own.
 

2012....Sharks Year

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Bro, say what you want in your own forum but don’t be that guy that trolls opposition forums, we could all do it but we don’t. We show respect.
But then some people are just dicks and I suspect that you ARE that guy.
Nah mate it was more a dig at Musby who has been back and forward between forums. Sorry if you found it offensive.
 

muzby

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Well I happen to know that cricketers at all levels who register to play competition cricket with a cricket club are covered for injury by Cricket Australia through an insurance scheme/policy. I understand the same is the case with soccer.

But there is another twist to this story. If the Dragons wanted to pay out McInnes's contract, he still could not be replaced and our salary cap would not be creditied. The NRL should rectify this problem not just for the Roosters (a made up rule developed for the Roosters on the run) but for all clubs who find themselves in a similar situation through no fault of their own.
You are correct. Amateur players in multiple competitions have insurance policies to cover for costs of rehabilitation when a player gets injured.

But these don’t cover for loss of earnings from their job.

You may be surprised to know that this is exactly why rugby league started.
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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Well I happen to know that cricketers at all levels who register to play competition cricket with a cricket club are covered for injury by Cricket Australia through an insurance scheme/policy. I understand the same is the case with soccer.

But there is another twist to this story. If the Dragons wanted to pay out McInnes's contract, he still could not be replaced and our salary cap would not be creditied. The NRL should rectify this problem not just for the Roosters (a made up rule developed for the Roosters on the run) but for all clubs who find themselves in a similar situation through no fault of their own.
I think you replied the wrong post of mine but I get that it hurts we have lost our best player for the year but we will not be the only club to lose a player for the season, we have suitable backup options in the position he was to play and going forward we have to plan for life after him anyway. Just feel for his as a bloke more than anything but there is no doubt the injury is a huge downer.
 

SaintPauli

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I know the roosters applied but did they receive relief?

Opens up a can of worms if they did.

I think the final straw is just around the corner for me as a NRL fan.
It was stated weeks ago by NRL ceo himself on NRL.com and on Fox Sports. No logic or common sense by NRL administration. I wish we the fans could vote on their performances.
 

boardlumps62

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I just did some digging on net CAM had a 12 week stint on sidelines from MCL knee injury after Perth Nines last year 2020. Having a bit of trouble.
 

pinkmoon

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How dumb are you guys asking for cap compensation? Can you imagine if the NRL started compensating clubs every time a player gets injured? The game would be an absolute farce. It's unlucky but it can happen pre season, rd 1 or in a gf.

If a player goes down injured in the 60th minute of the gf, going by your logic, the refs should stop the game and allow the club to ring around and sign someone for the last 20 minutes of the game so things a 'fair'
So dumb
 

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